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[lastplayed]

I'd gladly accept more UKIP seats as the price for an electoral system that doesn't suck arse. Which ours does.

Yeah, maybe the problem isn't how many seats UKIP would or could have, but the fact that 3.5 million people voted for them. That's almost the entire population of my country!

A country that's had MMP for nearly 20 years now. It's had its ups and downs but overall I like it.

 

[Putyouinmyoven]

Well today was depressing.

 

[PJV3]

Tory majority, quaff quaff quaff

Pace yourself, you have at least 5 years left.

 

[MrS]

Well today was depressing.

*Bane voice* For you

Maybe everything will go well and you'll be a Conservative voter in 5 years?

 

[Nicktendo86]

Well I wasn't able to vote yesterday (my wife went o to labour at half 5 in the morning and gave birth to our daughter at 4:40pm!)

What an election. I do t think enough can be written about it, the plots and sub plots can be studies for years.

The abject failure of the pollsters is staggering. Many (myself included) have been dumbfounded as to why the pos had not really shifted in the closing weeks. Turns out they drastically over estimated labour's ratings and under estimated the Tories, as if they had not learned anything from 1992. Some pundits had been saying the shy Tory vote and undecided voters could swing it for the Tories but few believed them.

I was fairly confident the Tories would be the largest party but whether it would be enough to cobble together a government was unknown. I don't think anyone seriously thought they could win a majority, the egg on faces is of an epic scale. That they could do that with the current boundaries as well is amazing.

The Tories kept posting a graphic saying that they only needed to win 23 more seats to get a majority. I don't think anyone took that seriously, after all governing parties don't increase their number of seats. Until now, of course.

The failure of labour will cause a lot of soul searching I am sure. Ed was never the right candidate, will the unions still have such influence in deciding the next leader? Some of the campaign decisions just look plain daft now, primarily the Edstone.

The collapse of the lib dems was awful and the Tories took full advantage.

The SNP story is also remarkable and will dictate the terms of the next parliament. I feel we must be heading towards a federal system now.

 

[MrRoflWaffles]

Well I wasn't able to vote yesterday (my wife went o to labour at half 5 in the morning and gave birth to our daughter at 4:40pm!)

What an election. I do t think enough can be written about it, the plots and sub plots can be studies for years.

Congratulations to you and your wife on the birth of your daughter

Definitely agree that there's a lot to explore in the statistics and story behind the results.

 

[Hasney]

Tory majority, quaff quaff quaff

I wanted a gin, but I scoffed at the London dry that YOU people would prefer, I'm being saucy with a Bombay Sapphire.

Spoiler

/s. but people tried to engage me politically during a metal music club night because I was drinking a BrewDog beer though and assumed I was Scottish. BrewDog brew the best stuff so they need to try that shit before assuming that!

 

[jamieson87]

Well I wasn't able to vote yesterday (my wife went o to labour at half 5 in the morning and gave birth to our daughter at 4:40pm!)

What an election. I do t think enough can be written about it, the plots and sub plots can be studies for years.

The abject failure of the pollsters is staggering. Many (myself included) have been dumbfounded as to why the pos had not really shifted in the closing weeks. Turns out they drastically over estimated labour's ratings and under estimated the Tories, as if they had not learned anything from 1992. Some pundits had been saying the shy Tory vote and undecided voters could swing it for the Tories but few believed them.

I was fairly confident the Tories would be the largest party but whether it would be enough to cobble together a government was unknown. I don't think anyone seriously thought they could win a majority, the egg on faces is of an epic scale. That they could do that with the current boundaries as well is amazing.

The Tories kept posting a graphic saying that they only needed to win 23 more seats to get a majority. I don't think anyone took that seriously, after all governing parties don't increase their number of seats. Until now, of course.

The failure of labour will cause a lot of soul searching I am sure. Ed was never the right candidate, will the unions still have such influence in deciding the next leader? Some of the campaign decisions just look plain daft now, primarily the Edstone.

The collapse of the lib dems was awful and the Tories took full advantage.

The SNP story is also remarkable and will dictate the terms of the next parliament. I feel we must be heading towards a federal system now.

Congrats on the baby girl.

About Ed, I'm not sure he was the wrong candidate. I suspect the right wing media juggernaut played it's part in the late tory surge. As much as I thought the red tops were now an irrelevance, their anti SNP vitriol seems to have put the jitters into any impressionable middle England voters.

Just my opinion of course.

 

[CyclopsRock]

I have a Scotch cocktail now. I'm reaching out across borders to my northern brothers. Unite, people.

Edit: also 90% sure I'm sitting next to a prostitute

 

[SymbiantXenos]

I have a Scotch cocktail now. I'm reaching out across borders to my northern brothers. Unite, people.

Edit: also 90% sure I'm sitting next to a prostitute

Anything Cumbrian on the menu?

 

[A_Gorilla]

So really, does this mean we can expect another Scottish Independence vote this year?

 

[Hasney]

Well I wasn't able to vote yesterday (my wife went o to labour at half 5 in the morning and gave birth to our daughter at 4:40pm!)

Didn't get past this. If you can't do your duty and vote, you don't get a say.

/s obviously. Congrats! You're right with the rest of your post, I don't even think the most optimistic Tory expected this, bar that guy that bet 30k in Glasgow (although that was a pessimistic bet). I've seen some posts here that suggest the wind may be knocked out of the young left, but there's 5 years to get that back... And trust me, if the last Tory majority was anything to go by and Labour can get a good leader, they'll be re-franchised along with a new batch of left voters.

Either way, this will be one of the elections looked at during history and politics classes.

Edit: also 90% sure I'm sitting next to a prostitute

Defo in your local Conservative club now, I'm sure of it

 

[MrRoflWaffles]

I have a Scotch cocktail now. I'm reaching out across borders to my northern brothers. Unite, people.

Edit: also 90% sure I'm sitting next to a prostitute

Nah that's just Ed Balls next to you. Easy mistake to make.

 

[JonathanEx]

I have a Scotch cocktail now. I'm reaching out across borders to my northern brothers. Unite, people.

Edit: also 90% sure I'm sitting next to a prostitute

There's only one way to find out.

 

[CyclopsRock]

Anything Cumbrian on the menu?

It's a fucking sausage fest if that counts

 

[jamieson87]

I have a Scotch cocktail now. I'm reaching out across borders to my northern brothers. Unite, people.

Edit: also 90% sure I'm sitting next to a prostitute

What is it? Tenants and Irn Bru?

I

 

[Prine]

Nah that's just Ed Balls next to you. Easy mistake to make.

lol

 

[jamieson87]

So really, does this mean we can expect another Scottish Independence vote this year?

Certainly not this year.

There are Holyrood elections in 2016, where the SNP could put another referendum on it's Manifesto. Nothing is certain yet though. Everything depends on how this tory majority does over the next few months.

 

[Slowdive]

So really, does this mean we can expect another Scottish Independence vote this year?

Next year, maybe.

 

[CyclopsRock]

What is it? Tenants and Irn Bru?

I

Hohoho! No I mean it has Scotch in it.

 

[SymbiantXenos]

Hohoho! No I mean it has Scotch in it.

Scotch pie and eggs

 

[Humidex]

Well I wasn't able to vote yesterday (my wife went o to labour at half 5 in the morning and gave birth to our daughter at 4:40pm!)

Congratulations, sir!

 

[jamieson87]

Hohoho! No I mean it has Scotch in it.

Haha, good lad. Above mentioned cocktail sounds stuff of nightmares.

Bowmore a decent Scotch best enjoyed neat on the rocks.

 

[CyclopsRock]

Haha, good lad. Above mentioned cocktail sounds stuff of nightmares.

Bowmore a decent Scotch best enjoyed neat on the rocks.

Thats what we usually in the fancy(er) bar upstairs, but we've run up a bill of... Well... Too much. One more normal cocktail, then a coffee cocktail, then home. Uber Lux bitxh.

 

[Hasney]

Scotch pie and eggs

My friend showed me a scotch egg she had today that involved chorizo. Should we evict her?

 

[SymbiantXenos]

My friend showed me a scotch egg she had today that involved chorizo. Should we evict her?

Sounds quite nice actually haha!

 

[jamieson87]

Thats what we usually in the fancy(er) bar upstairs, but we've run up a bill of... Well... Too much. One more normal cocktail, then a coffee cocktail, then home. Uber Lux bitxh.

In London are we? Just home in Edinburgh from a week down there, loved it. Great city, would move their in a second if I could afford the silly property prices.

 

[jamieson87]

My friend showed me a scotch egg she had today that involved chorizo. Should we evict her?

I'm a Scot, and had the best Scotch Egg ever in Borough Market this week, delightful.

Not so delightful at 3am when in bed mind you.

 

[Hasney]

Sounds quite nice actually haha!

I know, I totally wanted it. It was even a runny yolk!

 

[Putyouinmyoven]

*Bane voice* For you

Maybe everything will go well and you'll be a Conservative voter in 5 years?

Well there's always a chance, but it's unlikely, I disagree with their mentality in general - they're out of touch with the vulnerable people in our society. They don't tax rich people enough, and they don't pay out to the average joe enough. Plus I'm a medical student, and I kind of worry about the NHS. I mean, those reforms... seriously.

 

[CyclopsRock]

In London are we? Just home in Edinburgh from a week down there, loved it. Great city, would move their in a second if I could afford the silly property prices.

Yes! I'm glad you enjoyed it - I absolutely adore it. Born and raised so the rent is just "normal" to me (though obviously I'm aware it cheaper basically everywhere else, though my industry is all in London so I don't have much choice either way).

We just ordered a £150 cocktail but they don't have the vessel required booo. Time to go home I think. I'm dead. Dead.

 

[Hasney]

Yes! I'm glad you enjoyed it - I absolutely adore it. Born and raised so the rent is just "normal" to me (though obviously I'm aware it cheaper basically everywhere else, though my industry is all in London so I don't have much choice either way).

We just ordered a £150 cocktail but they don't have the vessel required booo. Time to go home I think. I'm dead. Dead.

Hahahaha, Christ. That sounds like me when I was selling payment protection insurance for a bank. I did enjoy those champagne cocktails

 

[jamieson87]

Yes! I'm glad you enjoyed it - I absolutely adore it. Born and raised so the rent is just "normal" to me (though obviously I'm aware it cheaper basically everywhere else, though my industry is all in London so I don't have much choice either way).

We just ordered a £150 cocktail but they don't have the vessel required booo. Time to go home I think. I'm dead. Dead.

I think outside in terms of the rest of the UK, Edinburgh doesn't fare too differently from London.

£150, toasting that tory majority were we . The only vessel required is a mouth.

Enjoy.

 

[SymbiantXenos]

Gentleman Jack (daniels) and coke for me.

 

[Hasney]

Gentleman Jack (daniels) and coke for me.

Duuuuude, embrace it without the Coke.

 

[jamieson87]

Gentleman Jack (daniels) and coke for me.

The auld TL for me tonight. Toasting a 50+ swing

 

[CyclopsRock]

If anyone can be fucked, you can see back in this thread that this trip was organ used before we knew the result! The fact it was a Tory majority is a glace-cherry-and-pineapple-chunk on a stick.

 

[Molemitts]

Brilliant.

 

[CyclopsRock]

They just played Jumpin' Jumpin'. Time to go.

Thanks everyone. I love you. I love the UK. Beautiful.

 

[SymbiantXenos]

Watching wwe in your house 96.

 

[faridmon]

It just hit me: As someone who have a walking disability, I haven't gotten any funding for the past 4 years and it looks like I will not get any help anymore.
Pity, but I am lucky to have a part time job and a family. There are worse people than me who have it hard physically and have less people to take care of them.

I am applying for jobs this summer, hope Cameron's guarantee for the job market to open up even furthuer at least rings true.

 

[faridmon]

Well I wasn't able to vote yesterday (my wife went o to labour at half 5 in the morning and gave birth to our daughter at 4:40pm!)

What an election. I do t think enough can be written about it, the plots and sub plots can be studies for years.

The abject failure of the pollsters is staggering. Many (myself included) have been dumbfounded as to why the pos had not really shifted in the closing weeks. Turns out they drastically over estimated labour's ratings and under estimated the Tories, as if they had not learned anything from 1992. Some pundits had been saying the shy Tory vote and undecided voters could swing it for the Tories but few believed them.

I was fairly confident the Tories would be the largest party but whether it would be enough to cobble together a government was unknown. I don't think anyone seriously thought they could win a majority, the egg on faces is of an epic scale. That they could do that with the current boundaries as well is amazing.

The Tories kept posting a graphic saying that they only needed to win 23 more seats to get a majority. I don't think anyone took that seriously, after all governing parties don't increase their number of seats. Until now, of course.

The failure of labour will cause a lot of soul searching I am sure. Ed was never the right candidate, will the unions still have such influence in deciding the next leader? Some of the campaign decisions just look plain daft now, primarily the Edstone.

The collapse of the lib dems was awful and the Tories took full advantage.

The SNP story is also remarkable and will dictate the terms of the next parliament. I feel we must be heading towards a federal system now.

Congrats on baby daughter

 

[Hasney]

They just played Jumpin' Jumpin'. Time to go.

Thanks everyone. I love you. I love the UK. Beautiful.

Hahahaha. Cyclops, we come from opposite ends of that political spectrum, but if we ever bump into each other I think we'd have a blast even if politics came up.

Hope you enjoyed your celebrations!

Watching wwe in your house 96.

Which one?

 

[SymbiantXenos]

In your house 2.

1st one was in 95. They gave away a house as a prize lol. Good thing bedroom tax wasn't a thing lol.

 

[firehawk12]

As an outsider looking in, it's a bit interesting to see because Canada will most likely have the exact same results in the fall. I wonder if Nick Clegg regrets the whole idea of the coalition government at this point.

 

[Audioboxer]

*raises hand*

Naaaah, you must be an English imposter

 

[airmangataosenai]

Brilliant.

I truly feel progressive ideology is not well suited for the common western view of democracy based around each individual "Having a voice", as it leads to things like this where a clear majority support something but fail because they cannot coalesce together because of their own egos.

Conservatives worldwide meanwhile are consistently a smaller group and are therefore forced to join under one tent, and to disproportionately large success. They understand how to play progressives against one another and slip through to gain the plurality they require to gain power. Meanwhile the disconnected liberals who want their voices to be heard end up gaining no seat at the winning table, get discouraged, and stop voting because they lost faith in a system they never even bothered to try and understanding the first place, thereby solidifying the gains made by conservatives.

Elections and democracy are not individual exercises, we need to stop teaching people that they are.

 

[30yearsofhurt]

As an outsider looking in, it's a bit interesting to see because Canada will most likely have the exact same results in the fall. I wonder if Nick Clegg regrets the whole idea of the coalition government at this point.

In Australia we had a Democrats party. Similar to Lib-Dems. Third largest, left centrist.

In 1998 they campaigned against a goods and services tax (GST) at an election.
After the election the GST couldn't get passed into law without them.
Their leader was so hungry to get her 15 minutes of fame and so full of her newfound self importance that she negotiated it's approval with some stupid caveats about fresh food being exempt.

Their voter base was so appalled they abandoned them and started voting for the Greens who stuck to their ideological guns.

Last month they were de-registered as a political party.

If this is the future for Clegg and the Lib Dems remains to be seen.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

As an outsider looking in, it's a bit interesting to see because Canada will most likely have the exact same results in the fall. I wonder if Nick Clegg regrets the whole idea of the coalition government at this point.

He probably regrets pulling policies and pledges out of his arse before the last election.

 

[King_Moc]

Well I wasn't able to vote yesterday (my wife went o to labour at half 5 in the morning and gave birth to our daughter at 4:40pm!)

What an election. I do t think enough can be written about it, the plots and sub plots can be studies for years.

The abject failure of the pollsters is staggering. Many (myself included) have been dumbfounded as to why the pos had not really shifted in the closing weeks. Turns out they drastically over estimated labour's ratings and under estimated the Tories, as if they had not learned anything from 1992. Some pundits had been saying the shy Tory vote and undecided voters could swing it for the Tories but few believed them.

I was fairly confident the Tories would be the largest party but whether it would be enough to cobble together a government was unknown. I don't think anyone seriously thought they could win a majority, the egg on faces is of an epic scale. That they could do that with the current boundaries as well is amazing.

The Tories kept posting a graphic saying that they only needed to win 23 more seats to get a majority. I don't think anyone took that seriously, after all governing parties don't increase their number of seats. Until now, of course.

The failure of labour will cause a lot of soul searching I am sure. Ed was never the right candidate, will the unions still have such influence in deciding the next leader? Some of the campaign decisions just look plain daft now, primarily the Edstone.

The collapse of the lib dems was awful and the Tories took full advantage.

The SNP story is also remarkable and will dictate the terms of the next parliament. I feel we must be heading towards a federal system now.

So there was some good news yesterday. Congrats!