serenewarfare
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It elevated Cena. He was having a bad year, remember? After beating Lesnar and Big Show, he was still distraught about the Rock. Winning MitB reminded him he could still do it.
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It elevated Cena. He was having a bad year, remember? After beating Lesnar and Big Show, he was still distraught about the Rock. Winning MitB reminded him he could still do it.
lovely ladies
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Those drawings lol
Macho Madness
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I don't think Bryan's actually going to vacate but it also wouldn't surprise me if he did. Reigns' first title win isn't happening from MITB, but I could see literally anyone else they throw in that match getting the briefcase.
Strip Bryan and make him a surprise entrant in the MITB match for the title
Macho Madness
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He doesn't have to drop if he's back for Money in the Bank. Which, ready or not, I have a feeling he will be. Besides, interest is already gone.
They already explained this. They don't want to strip him because then he'd have an excuse to whine and cry and ask for a rematch. If he vacates it himself, he put himself "out of the picture."
They already explained this. They don't want to strip him because then he'd have an excuse to whine and cry and ask for a rematch. If he vacates it himself, he put himself "out of the picture."
As mentioned before, WCCW did it first. Then NWA did it with some really stupid ass rules. WCW proper used a modified version in 1996 so Hogan/Savage could go over the Four Horsemen, Dungeon of Doom, Zeus, and the dude who played Bane in Batman and Robin. 2 on 8. The Mega Maniacs won pretty easily with a little bit of help from Brutus Beefcake. The rules were basically the same, but the structure and sizes of the cages were different. They then brought back the original structure in 2000 for DDP vs Jeff Jarrett vs David Arquette. The rules changed to the winner being the first one to get to the top cage and grab the belt, which makes a lot more sense than than the stupid bullshit timed escape/key holder garbage.
It came back one more time for a War Games that technically had teams, but was for the WCW Championship and whoever walked out with the title would be the new champion. All of them sucked.
Garbage. All of them. Everything is garbage. You're garbage. Bean is garbage. GARBAGE BARRAGE.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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cr_blah_blah
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They should do it Saw style where the title is locked in a briefcase inside the top cage, hanging, and 1 participant has the key BUT NOBODY KNOWS WHO. So everybody is suspicious of the next guy but they're all trying to get to the briefcase assuming the other guy has the key to the title. You get some comedy strip downs, the guy who reaches in another's trunks but SURPRISE that's not a key, and other WWE hilarity. Inevitably there's a handful of guys standing around the briefcase looking around at each other until someone makes a move.
This is a terrible idea.
cr_blah_blah
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They'd have a twist and none of the wrestlers would actually have the key but Dixie has it all along. She's on stage declaring this is the "key" to TNA's real future. She shows up on Double J's Promotion and opens the briefcase revealing the brand new Global Force Wrestling championship, the TNA World Heavyweight Championship. Also, she's his partner and is indestructible and everything is bad.
This is a terrible idea.
Serpentine
Banned
...This sounds so stupid
5. Feast or Fired. The matches always suck. The results are always funny though.
4. Triple Cage. Stro is just angry he can't drink, the concept shouldn't work but gosh is it entertaining.
3. Buried Alive. These matches historically suck but there's something about them.
2. Blindfold match. I don't know why but I love these.
1. 24/7 falls count anywhere. More of a concept than an actual match but I miss these so. Sure they get stale after three straight years of them but running with this for half a year or so is gold.
4. Triple Cage. Stro is just angry he can't drink, the concept shouldn't work but gosh is it entertaining.
3. Buried Alive. These matches historically suck but there's something about them.
2. Blindfold match. I don't know why but I love these.
1. 24/7 falls count anywhere. More of a concept than an actual match but I miss these so. Sure they get stale after three straight years of them but running with this for half a year or so is gold.
Triple cage matches are NOT entertaining at all. The NWA one was hot garbage, and the WCW proper ones were just as bad if not worse. They aren't even fun in a "holy shit this is hilariously terrible" kind of way. They're just bad. There can not possibly be an ironic enjoyment of the 4 triple cage matches WCW had.
Hey wrestling marks, step your games up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7UBYfpz7HPI#t=2525
Holy fucking cow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7UBYfpz7HPI#t=2525
Holy fucking cow.
It's like an Ali promo, except bad and it's making me cringe.
Holy shit
Edit: was that his brother or is that a joke?
British Monsoon
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Oh, fuck yes;
Also, here's the current card for New Japan DOMINION;
. IWGP Intercontinental Title: Shinsuke Nakamura (c) vs Bad Luck Fale
. IWGP Heayweight Tag Titles: Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows (c) vs Hiroshi Tanahashi & Togi Makabe
. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Title: Kota Ibushi (c) vs Winner of Best of the Super Jr's
. NWA World Tag Titles: Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs Lance Archer & Davey Boy Smith Jr.
. Special Tag Match: Kazuchika Okada & Tomohiro Ishii vs AJ Styles & Yujiro Takahashi
Was hoping for another NEVER title defence, but that tag match works as well. Fale in the main event though...
I'm presuming they'd prefer to deal with gaijin talent the mainstream New Japan audience are familiar with, rather than indie guys that would mostly appeal to the hardcore crowd. Hayato would have been awesome though, would've loved to see him vs Ricochet.
Also, here's the current card for New Japan DOMINION;
. IWGP Intercontinental Title: Shinsuke Nakamura (c) vs Bad Luck Fale
. IWGP Heayweight Tag Titles: Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows (c) vs Hiroshi Tanahashi & Togi Makabe
. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Title: Kota Ibushi (c) vs Winner of Best of the Super Jr's
. NWA World Tag Titles: Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs Lance Archer & Davey Boy Smith Jr.
. Special Tag Match: Kazuchika Okada & Tomohiro Ishii vs AJ Styles & Yujiro Takahashi
Was hoping for another NEVER title defence, but that tag match works as well. Fale in the main event though...
I'm presuming they'd prefer to deal with gaijin talent the mainstream New Japan audience are familiar with, rather than indie guys that would mostly appeal to the hardcore crowd. Hayato would have been awesome though, would've loved to see him vs Ricochet.
1. Coal Miner's Glove match. It's just the stupidist idea, that somehow a coal miner's glove will help in a fight in any way, and yet maanged to give some great matches over in Pacific Northwest Wrestling with Dutch Savage and Mid-South with several guys.
Dibiase vs. Jim Duggan has the best of it all being a Tuxedo Match with a Coal Miner's Glove on a pole, and the loser leaves town. It's on the Best of Mid-South DVD.
2. Musical Chairs. Okay as far as I know there has only been one and it was on Raw created by Eugene, but I loved it thanks to the cast of characters. I bet it could still work today in DDT (the last chair would somehow win the match), or WWE to further insult Miz and Dolph and Ryder to cement them as the new Job Squad if that angle ever takes off.
3. Swamping Gimmick matches. Rarely happens but two competitors are forced to dress like the other, use the move set/war chest of the other, and will be disqualified if they act like themselves too many times in a match. Hawai'i Wrestling in the 70s did it a couple of times, Osaka Pro might have done it but I can't recall, and I'm not sure who else might have. It's hilarious when done right and I could see either Chikara or Championship Wrestling From Hollywood doing well with it.
4. Buried Alive. You win by throwing someone into a hole and then throw dirt on them. Just ridiculous, and yet we have a few classics across the world on this match type.
5. WEE-LC. Not because they used Minis to wrestle, I honestly believe Mascarita Dorada to be one of the best wrestlers to come out of Mexico and love the AAA and CMLL Mini-Estrella divisions, but this was a WWE match involving mminis so how the hell could it possibly be good?
Yet somehow, despite Vince style humour of mini-parodies everywhere, it was a straight up match where 3MB played no more the bigger fools than they usually did and it was the best "extreme" match of the night.
Honorary Mention. Silent Match, where the first wrestler that makes a loud noises will lose the match. So no talking, no screaming, no saying "I Quit", no tapping, etc.
Mr. Luchador
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polyh3dron
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British Monsoon
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This was fantastic, such a clever idea for a match - I'd also suggest the 'Bread Eating Deathmatch' from Union Pro. It probably worked only because it was Ken Ohka & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi, but I loved the match concept regardless - so ridiculous.
For those who haven't seen it, there are a variety of bread products hanging from above the ring at mouth height - the wrestlers have to eat all the bread before they can attempt to win the match, but they can't use their hands to grab the bread.
Oh, fuck yes;
Really looking forward to the show now. Although I'm kind of fearing there will be some sort of last minute cancellation for one of the big names appearing, maybe Steen since he and his wife just had another child.
British Monsoon
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It'd be understandable, but I hope not - I'm very interested in seeing how Marty vs Steen turns out. The show is kinda ridiculously stacked;
. RPW Heavyweight Title: Marty Scurll (c) vs Kevin Steen
. International Dream Match #1: Shinsuke Nakamura vs Zack Sabre Jr.
. International Dream Match #2: Prince Devitt vs Adam Cole
Plus, Karl Anderson wrestling, The Kartel defending their tag titles (I'd guess against the Swords of Essex) and Josh Bodom defending his cruiserweight belt (vs Mark Andrews, maybe?). Should be a lot of fun.
I missed the end of Chikara so let me say now, I do not like Icarus at all. He looks like goober supreme and isn't a great wrestler.
Bobby Fish looks like such a fuck.
Bobby Fish looks like such a fuck.
Bobby Fish's face is always working.
They seem to edit in what they favor to hear. Like people chanting "You tapped out!" to Hunter after the Lesnar-Extreme Rules bout last year, and in the following Raw. Or in his desperate for sympy angle when his feud with Undertaker ended.
As for gimmick matches, never really liked Inferno or Casket matches either. I think most Taker-themed gimmick matches at mostly sucked. I guess they did sort of create the Hell in a Cell for him, because it was suppose to keep Shawn Michaels inside and Triple H and Chyna outside. That's been great (until they've watered it down), but others have been poor. Blindfold matches can be fun given the right workers, i.e. Jake Roberts and Rick Martel did it brilliantly.
As for gimmick matches, never really liked Inferno or Casket matches either. I think most Taker-themed gimmick matches at mostly sucked. I guess they did sort of create the Hell in a Cell for him, because it was suppose to keep Shawn Michaels inside and Triple H and Chyna outside. That's been great (until they've watered it down), but others have been poor. Blindfold matches can be fun given the right workers, i.e. Jake Roberts and Rick Martel did it brilliantly.
FlammableD
Banned
Can't wait, it should be great.
Also, at the risk of having another unpopular opinion, I kind of miss King of the Mountain. It was a total clusterfuck, but it was fun.
After missing Progress because of work I'll have to get tickets to this, card looks awesome. I live right next to the Central Line as well so no excuses about not being able to get to Bethnal Green.
Professor Beef
Banned
Ready to Rumble was the only decent triple cage match. And that was only because of Gordy "The Law" Boggs.
funkystudent
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I am 100% for a short Triple H title run right now.
Its the lull part of the year so he wont be hogging the spotlight at the big shows like Mania or SummerSlam so thats a plus. His work the last 6 months has been AMAZING and I think he would be great as the heel COO champ
Literally have him give himself the belt be a cocky asshole for a few weeks and then drop it at SummerSlam or MITB to whoever.
Its the lull part of the year so he wont be hogging the spotlight at the big shows like Mania or SummerSlam so thats a plus. His work the last 6 months has been AMAZING and I think he would be great as the heel COO champ
Literally have him give himself the belt be a cocky asshole for a few weeks and then drop it at SummerSlam or MITB to whoever.
FallingEdge
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If I could grow facial hair like Fish, I would basically try to x-copy his look. I love it.
Man, there were some real lows (sup, Freebirds music video performance thing), but some great stuff, too. I can't overstate how enjoyable it is for me to watch Sting and Steamboat vs. "Stunning" Steve Austin and "Ravishing" Rick Rude with Jim Ross and Jesse Ventura commentating. Takes me back, man...
