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Medal of Honor 2010 |OT| OPERATORS OPERATING in OPERATIONS
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Kydd BlaZe
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360 Servers have been down for a while now...wallbc01 said:
Was that it? Three and a half hours? I got it this afternoon, and I'm done! Just over half an MW campaign and it sure as hell feels it. Ends with a bit of a whimper.
The reviews that say 7 hours, I... don't know. It's impossible. A lot of the script triggers activate when your AI teammates pass a certain point and they will push forward even if you won't. How could DC have spent so long making this when there are no technical achievements and the campaign features run-of-the-mill stuff?
The reviewer who said the SP was very controlling was right. Sometime you have invisible barriers to stop you from running to far ahead of your teammates (like literally, not one foot in front of them), sometimes to stop you from going back to an area even if the path is wide open and you just left it. It is very controlling over the animations, every tiny movement of your head, it'll keep control much longer than it has to. Even things like the repeated use of the laser designator mechanic will only activate in one spot and you will be kept rooted there until the gameplay segment is complete. Very rough collision detection, when you try and squeeze past your teammate standing near a rock you can't because their invisible barriers extend past their models and stop you dead.
However the reviewer also said he hardly got to make kills because the AI would snap it up and he'd always be forced to bring up the rear. That never happend. The team AI was fine even though they did get in the way of my line of fire a bit.
It's two separate games. There is no relation between the SP and MP. Different engines, different weapons, different feel. One is a mini Bad Company game, the other is a typical UE3 fps. I never got to use a P90 or F2000 in singleplayer
A lot of times you couldn't advance until the AI did something for you like kick in a door, a criticism that Blacksite got blasted for.
Having Linkin Park play over the "hell yeah" action moments of the campaign was a bad idea.
The game didn't come off as hawkish to me. The tier 1 characters and their camraderie was a little cliche. One of the army guys is the stereotypical Mexican dude like from the beginning of the Transformers movie. "Wow, cabron, you got real cojones. I love your balls." It portrays the military brass as Washington stooges. If anything it shows how pointless the conflict is. All that manpower and billion-dollar hardware just to chip away at some mountains and kill a bunch of farmers and wannabe militia boys. You go on a mission to rescue two people, and it ends up costing 2 chinooks and a shitload of dead army guys despite how pathetic the enemy is. "Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here" never sounded so hollow. They're no threat, a bunch of hobos living in caves with guns that are worth more as scrap-metal.
Why did the game introduce
enemies half way through? What have they got to do with the Afghanistan conflict? I know they're Muslim but they're miles away and you'd think they be more concerned about fighting Russia.
endgame SPOILERS:
I had high hopes for this. CoD is nothing but a consolised shooter and I wanted something that wasn't so soft, or at least forced Activision to stop being so lazy with their milking.
The reviews that say 7 hours, I... don't know. It's impossible. A lot of the script triggers activate when your AI teammates pass a certain point and they will push forward even if you won't. How could DC have spent so long making this when there are no technical achievements and the campaign features run-of-the-mill stuff?
The reviewer who said the SP was very controlling was right. Sometime you have invisible barriers to stop you from running to far ahead of your teammates (like literally, not one foot in front of them), sometimes to stop you from going back to an area even if the path is wide open and you just left it. It is very controlling over the animations, every tiny movement of your head, it'll keep control much longer than it has to. Even things like the repeated use of the laser designator mechanic will only activate in one spot and you will be kept rooted there until the gameplay segment is complete. Very rough collision detection, when you try and squeeze past your teammate standing near a rock you can't because their invisible barriers extend past their models and stop you dead.
However the reviewer also said he hardly got to make kills because the AI would snap it up and he'd always be forced to bring up the rear. That never happend. The team AI was fine even though they did get in the way of my line of fire a bit.
It's two separate games. There is no relation between the SP and MP. Different engines, different weapons, different feel. One is a mini Bad Company game, the other is a typical UE3 fps. I never got to use a P90 or F2000 in singleplayer
A lot of times you couldn't advance until the AI did something for you like kick in a door, a criticism that Blacksite got blasted for.
Having Linkin Park play over the "hell yeah" action moments of the campaign was a bad idea.
The game didn't come off as hawkish to me. The tier 1 characters and their camraderie was a little cliche. One of the army guys is the stereotypical Mexican dude like from the beginning of the Transformers movie. "Wow, cabron, you got real cojones. I love your balls." It portrays the military brass as Washington stooges. If anything it shows how pointless the conflict is. All that manpower and billion-dollar hardware just to chip away at some mountains and kill a bunch of farmers and wannabe militia boys. You go on a mission to rescue two people, and it ends up costing 2 chinooks and a shitload of dead army guys despite how pathetic the enemy is. "Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here" never sounded so hollow. They're no threat, a bunch of hobos living in caves with guns that are worth more as scrap-metal.
Why did the game introduce
Chechen
endgame SPOILERS:
Felt like they were trying to imitate CoD when your character died
I had high hopes for this. CoD is nothing but a consolised shooter and I wanted something that wasn't so soft, or at least forced Activision to stop being so lazy with their milking.
Revolutionary
Member
Finished the campaign. Currently listening to Linkin Park in the credits.
It probably weighed in at 6 hours in total. Like I said earlier, I think it was pretty solid. I enjoyed it more than MW2 and BC2's campaigns.
On to Tier 1 Mode! (until MP is fixed lol)
-slits wrists
On to Tier 1 Mode! (until MP is fixed lol)
Square Triangle
Member
I would of been more comfortable if this were a BC2 clone than CoD but instead its' caught in the middle. =/
xclaw
Member
aristotle said:
I'm getting very long load times... almost made me think there was something wrong with the disk. You literally have to wait 2 minutes when exiting multiplayer for the main menu to load. Something ain't right.
I also got the "suppress dshk for team" glitch where nothing happens when it's shot, loading the last checkpoint isn't working so I am gonna restart the entire mission and hopefully it'll work...
Anton Sugar
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:lol :lol :lolZenith said:
Are you serious???
I also read from RPS that because of the different SP/MP developers, there really isn't any consistency between SP and MP. For example, in SP, you can go prone, leave one bullet in your gun while changing mags, and even slide to cover by crouching while printing...and all of this is missing in MP.
I still have hopes for the MP, but man, I wanted this game to be so much better.
Revolutionary
Member
MP is working fine on PS3 as far as I can tell. Just played like 6 rounds with no lag or disconnects, like I had last night.
DodgyGeezerFella
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Zenith said:
What ? :lol With "singing" too ?
eternaLightness
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Strider2K99 said:
When do they stop delivering? I didn't get mine until after 5 PM est. Had me waiting all friggin day.
Absoludacrous
Member
X26 said:
Bioshock 2, but everything used the same engine AFAIK
Revolutionary
Member
And yet it still took a minute to switch between the two.Absoludacrous said:
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
yep and different engines for sp and mp.X26 said:
wolfenstein fits the bill. Singleplayer was good tho and the MP was an abomination
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Got the game (PS3 version) thanks to awesome Futureshop trade 2 deal (traded in COD4 and Blazblue).
Quick criticism from my 30 minutes of online play:
1. When they said there are two developers, they really meant it. Single-player and multi-player are so different and isolated from each other, it feels like MGS4/MGO fiasco where enter different mode requires loading a different executable file. I heard in PC version, it's more obvious and has two separate executable files (correct me if I'm wrong).
2. There is NO gun-play improvement from beta to final game besides a polish here and there. Every gun is equally powerful, every gun has unlimited range and every gun has unlimited accuracy and every gun requires less than 10 rounds to kill/double-kill. With that said, the feel of the gun is excellent as always expected from Dice.
3. They've added a "hold breath" feature for those 4x sniper rifle scopes (don't know if it was there before in the beta but I don't remember it). It's pretty blocky and doesn't feel like it belongs in the game and feels like a last minute addition.
4. Game freezing glitch is still there. I repeat: game freezing glitch is still there! The only improvement (if you may call it) is the fact that instead of crashing the system, it freezes for 5 seconds. WTF is this shit, Dice?
5. Only 4 game modes? Are you fucking kidding me? At a game that's aimed as a Call of Duty-esque game, that's more than 75% less game modes! Of course, I'm excluding Hardcore mode (with a total of 5) but they game itself is hardcore enough, I can't imagine how "hardcore" is hardcore mode.
6. No lobby system. WHAT THE FUCK, DICE? It's matchmaking only. You go to matchmaking, you pick game mode and you're in. Sure, it's quick but I want to be in a lobby, seeing what map is coming up, vote the map or exit if I am not satisfied, etc etc. I don't even know how many maps are in the game and so far the 6 or so matches I've had in the same server, I've only seen the maps provided in the beta. No filter settings to avoid maps, no nothing.
7. There is a 'voting' system at the end of the match, but there is no way of finding out if the map has been skipped or how many people skipped the map, and it's a guessing game. Backward shit, Dice. Backward shit!
8. Regardless of numerous complains that the default HUD size is too large and zoomed in, they still didn't adjust it and I had to adjust it myself. Lazy?
9. Grenade, why oh why are you so weak?
Quick criticism from my 30 minutes of online play:
1. When they said there are two developers, they really meant it. Single-player and multi-player are so different and isolated from each other, it feels like MGS4/MGO fiasco where enter different mode requires loading a different executable file. I heard in PC version, it's more obvious and has two separate executable files (correct me if I'm wrong).
2. There is NO gun-play improvement from beta to final game besides a polish here and there. Every gun is equally powerful, every gun has unlimited range and every gun has unlimited accuracy and every gun requires less than 10 rounds to kill/double-kill. With that said, the feel of the gun is excellent as always expected from Dice.
3. They've added a "hold breath" feature for those 4x sniper rifle scopes (don't know if it was there before in the beta but I don't remember it). It's pretty blocky and doesn't feel like it belongs in the game and feels like a last minute addition.
4. Game freezing glitch is still there. I repeat: game freezing glitch is still there! The only improvement (if you may call it) is the fact that instead of crashing the system, it freezes for 5 seconds. WTF is this shit, Dice?
5. Only 4 game modes? Are you fucking kidding me? At a game that's aimed as a Call of Duty-esque game, that's more than 75% less game modes! Of course, I'm excluding Hardcore mode (with a total of 5) but they game itself is hardcore enough, I can't imagine how "hardcore" is hardcore mode.
6. No lobby system. WHAT THE FUCK, DICE? It's matchmaking only. You go to matchmaking, you pick game mode and you're in. Sure, it's quick but I want to be in a lobby, seeing what map is coming up, vote the map or exit if I am not satisfied, etc etc. I don't even know how many maps are in the game and so far the 6 or so matches I've had in the same server, I've only seen the maps provided in the beta. No filter settings to avoid maps, no nothing.
7. There is a 'voting' system at the end of the match, but there is no way of finding out if the map has been skipped or how many people skipped the map, and it's a guessing game. Backward shit, Dice. Backward shit!
8. Regardless of numerous complains that the default HUD size is too large and zoomed in, they still didn't adjust it and I had to adjust it myself. Lazy?
9. Grenade, why oh why are you so weak?
Buckethead
Banned
Just picked it up, won't get to it until Thursday probably.
Shall be fun though.
Shall be fun though.
shagg_187 said:
They are literally different games. I don't think it's breaking any NDAs to say that the debug version of the game we received for 360 (which I did not review - I only reviewed retail versions of MOH for all three platforms) had entirely separate executables - I literally could have installed just single player or just multiplayer on my debug hard drive.
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
tough to do when the servers are borkedClick said:
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
No_Style said:
The SP is absolutely fantastic if you like military shooters at all, an added bonus if you are a vet, or knowledgeable in military life/tech/lingo.
I haven't gotten into the multi yet, but if the weapons handle the same way I'll be happy.
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
Strider2K99 said:
ugh, mine never came either :/
I hope they don't come while I'm at work tomorrow.
I can't believe you ingrates. EA is giving you two (not one, two) AAA titles for the price of one, and you're complaining about it. Don't you appreciate that EA could have had whoever made this game do both the single player and the multiplayer?
If you've been paying attention, this is pretty much a $120 value. So basically if you didn't buy Medal of Honor today, you in effect lost $60. Too bad, huh?
It's called Medal of Honor for a reason. EA deserves one.
If you've been paying attention, this is pretty much a $120 value. So basically if you didn't buy Medal of Honor today, you in effect lost $60. Too bad, huh?
It's called Medal of Honor for a reason. EA deserves one.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
I... uhh... what? My sarcasm meter is charging as of this moment :/Novella said:
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
Novella said:
TheMissingLink
Member
Zenith said:
Out.
MikeE21286
Member
:lol good showNovella said:
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
sflufan said:
They were also in Iraq for a bit, most of those "sniper" incidents were
Chechens.
Look them up, they are a ruthless lot. (last comment aimed at others, not SFLUFAN)
Gaogaogao said:
Ick, guess I'll find out shortly.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
:lolNovella said:
Looks like Wall Street wasn't too keen on the less-than-Tier 1 review scores for the game as it sent EA stock down 6%:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6281734.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;3
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6281734.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;3
DevelopmentArrested
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aegiessflufan said:
Helping drop stock prices since 2010
(Today, 01:10 AM)
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Overall the multiplayer is solid. Pretty much what has been said before. Battlefield feel with smaller maps. A couple things annoy me about it though:
1) Why is prone not in this game?
2) There needs to be more maps. Feels like for team deathmatch you're only playing 4 maps over and over again.
1) Why is prone not in this game?
2) There needs to be more maps. Feels like for team deathmatch you're only playing 4 maps over and over again.
GAH! today is just not my day... I finally get my motherboard in from RMA and I set it up, keen to give the game a go, and what happens? I get it all set up, and... it gives me the same issue. I finally got around to trying the RAM test, and then it doesn't even give me a beep. Turns out, my memory controller is fried, and they somehow didn't catch that the FIRST time I sent it in. So it's all packed and ready to go... and because of my bank being SLOW I wasn't able to move around funds to buy the limited edition.
And if shit wasn't any worse, I thought I might pop in another disk of that box set I bought at the NY Comic Con over the weekend and it's all "Fuck you, I don't feel like reading this disk" >:|
Normally, I'd deal with this by playing a rousing FPS. You can imagine how frustrated I am >:|
And if shit wasn't any worse, I thought I might pop in another disk of that box set I bought at the NY Comic Con over the weekend and it's all "Fuck you, I don't feel like reading this disk" >:|
Normally, I'd deal with this by playing a rousing FPS. You can imagine how frustrated I am >:|
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