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[JoshuaJSlone]

Among all the console talk, I missed a DS/PSP factoid. The DS+DSL passed three times the PSP's total this week. Between the two systems it's 75.3% DS, 24.7% PSP.

The most interesting thing about the HW numbers is that for the first time since launch, PS3 sales have actually gone up. Since we can still assume Sony is selling every unit they ship, that means they may actually be telling the truth about having worked out their production issues. There's a chance they may actually reach their 2 million by year end goal, now.

Well, a week of 50,000 is still pretty far from reaching that goal of 2 million by the end of the year. If Japan only accounts for a third of that goal (say 660K) they'll need three consecutive weeks of 140K by Media Create's reckoning.

And to prevent this from being a short post, I'll add in one of the stats only brought up infrequently: Year to date, year over year.

GCN: -64.8%
Wii: N/A
GBA: -86.0%
GBASP: - 65.3%
GBM: -62.6%
DS: -66.1%
DSL: N/A
PS2: -23.6%
PS3: N/A
PSP: -13.1%
Xbox: -84.9%
X360: +224.9%

GBA total: -64.8%
DS total: +167.8%

Nintendo portable: +83.3%

Nintendo console: +146.7%
Sony console: -9.9%

Nintendo all: +107.1%
Sony all: -11.5%
Microsoft all: +160.3%

Consoles: +11.0%
Portables: +66.4%

Total: +51.8%

 

[davepoobond]

interesting that the PS2/PSP numbers went back up to their normal levels after the PS3 launch week. DS doing as well as ever...wonder if it is even possible for that thing to reach 100 million

i was pretty spot on with the xbox360 numbers iirc...the year headstart definitely didn't help them in Japan looking at the charts. shoulda launched this year with Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey and see how that would have done for its momentum

 

[Acrylamid]

Question: the GC version of Twilight Princess was released on December 2 in Japan, right?
So did it sell so few copies that it didn't even show up in the Top 50 (there weren't any GC games this week and last week, were there?) or aren't online stores counted by Media Create?

 

[Pureauthor]

interesting that the PS2/PSP numbers went back up to their normal levels after the PS3 launch week. DS doing as well as ever...wonder if it is even possible for that thing to reach 100 million

All three major territories seem to have fallen firmly behind the DS now. In America, a price drop to 99.99 + Pokemans will make sales surge.

Europe... enh, I dunno. Nintenkittens?

 

[davepoobond]

All three major territories seem to have fallen firmly behind the DS now. In America, a price drop to 99.99 + Pokemans will make sales surge.

Europe... enh, I dunno. Nintenkittens?

if it keeps selling at this rate after it passes gba's numbers, then it'll be obvious imo.

 

[Doogdogg]

Question: the GC version of Twilight Princess was released on December 2 in Japan, right?
So did it sell so few copies that it didn't even show up in the Top 50 (there weren't any GC games this week and last week, were there?) or aren't online stores counted by Media Create?

it was sold online only.

 

[NintendosBooger]

All three major territories seem to have fallen firmly behind the DS now. In America, a price drop to 99.99 + Pokemans will make sales surge.

Europe... enh, I dunno. Nintenkittens?

Have you seen the sales? Nintendo doesn't need to drop the price of the DS any more than Sony had to for the PS2 while it was still $299, or any more than Microsoft has to with their XBox 360. Besides, I have a feeling their pricing strategy will depend on what Sony does with the PSP.

 

[jesusraz]

Hardware - This Week | Last Week | Total 2006 Sales | Lifetime Sales

1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 309,630 | 176,901 | 6,441,813 | 6,441,813
2.) Nintendo Wii - 85,439 | 350,358 | 435,797 | 435,797
3.) PlayStation 3 - 50,171 | 31,436 | 238,007 | 238,007
4.) Xbox 360 - 35,343 | 4,053 | 142,846 | 213,412
5.) PlayStation 2 - 30,460 | 23,115 | 1,328,127 | 20,032,751
6.) PlayStation Portable - 28,930 | 23,917 | 1,592,948 | 4,275,904
7.) Game Boy Advance SP - 1,896 | 1,572 | 217,136 | 5,909,572
8.) Game Boy micro - 1,555 | 1,252 | 138,274 | 553,963
9.) GameCube - 569 | 821 | 72,629 | 4,166,219
10.) Nintendo DS - 167 | 140 | 934,766 | 6,581,715
11.) Game Boy Advance - 17 | 22 | 3,309 | 8,822,959
12.) Xbox - 6 | 11 | 1,752 | 475,595

 

[GhaleonEB]

Hardware - This Week | Last Week | Total 2006 Sales | Lifetime Sales

1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 309,630 | 176,901 | 6,441,813 | 6,441,813
2.) Nintendo Wii - 85,439 | 350,358 | 435,797 | 435,797
3.) PlayStation 3 - 50,171 | 31,436 | 238,007 | 238,007
4.) Xbox 360 - 35,343 | 4,053 | 142,846 | 213,412
5.) PlayStation 2 - 30,460 | 23,115 | 1,328,127 | 20,032,751
6.) PlayStation Portable - 28,930 | 23,917 | 1,592,948 | 4,275,904
7.) Game Boy Advance SP - 1,896 | 1,572 | 217,136 | 5,909,572
8.) Game Boy micro - 1,555 | 1,252 | 138,274 | 553,963
9.) GameCube - 569 | 821 | 72,629 | 4,166,219
10.) Nintendo DS - 167 | 140 | 934,766 | 6,581,715
11.) Game Boy Advance - 17 | 22 | 3,309 | 8,822,959
12.) Xbox - 6 | 11 | 1,752 | 475,595

It's amazing that the 360's userbase grew 20% in one week. On one hand, that gives a bit of hope that games like BD can help. On the other, it really highlights how ****ing weak sales have been so far.

 

[cvxfreak]

Thanks jesusraz. First post updated.

EDIT:

DS total: 13,023,528
GBA total: 15,286,494
GBA/DS difference: 2,262,966

PS2/DS difference: 7,009,223

 

[sprsk]

I wonder why there is such a discrepency between the media create and famitsu numbers this week.

 

[NintendosBooger]

Mistwalker is going to be a future juggernaut.

 

[jesusraz]

No problem Updated the following as well, thanks to various numbers lying around this topic:

11.) Love and Berry DS Collection - 54,000 | 536,000 [ 62% of shipment sold ]
12.) New Super Mario Bros. - 54,000 | 3,540,000 [ 96% ]
13.) Momotarou Dentetsu 16
14.) 1000 DS Recipes
15.) Animal Crossing Wild World - 42,000 | 3,510,000 [ 97% ]
16.) More Brain Age - 37,000 | 3,520,000 [ 96% ]
17.) Zelda no Densetsu: Twilight Princess
18.) Tales of Destiny
19.) Yakuza (PS2 The Best)
20.) Final Fantasy VI Advance
21.) Brighter than Dawning Blue
22.) Power Pro Kun Pocket 9
23.) Odoru Made in Wario
24.) Kirarin Star Revolution Naasan to Issho
25.) Brain Age
26.) Mario Kart DS - 19,000 | 1,784,000 [ 97% ]
27.) 200 Mannin Kanji - 19,000 | 111,000 [ 69% ]
28.) DS Cuisine Navigator
29.) J League Winning Eleven 10
30.) English Training DS

31.) Summon Night 4 (PS2, Banpresto)
32.) Magic Compendium (NDS, Nintendo)
33.) Electric Brain Repetition (NDS, Shogakukan Inc.) - NEW ENTRY
34.) Mah-Jong Fighting Spirit Club (NDS, Konami) - NEW ENTRY
35.) Tamagotchi Corner Shop 2 (NDS, Bandai Namco)
36.) Drum Expert 7th Generation (PS2, Bandai Namco)
37.) Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square Enix) - 11,000　| 888,000　[ 83% ]
38.) Ridge Racer 7 (PS3, Bandai Namco)
39.) Gundam Target in Sight (PS3, Bandai Namco)
40.) Kanji Shiken (NDS, Spike) - 8,900　| 34,000　[ 45% ]
41.) Blurring Shock (NDS, Taito) - 8,600 | NEW ENTRY [ 47% ]
42.) Tetris DS (NDS, Nintendo) - 8,600　| 926,000　[ 95% ]
43.) Racing Game (PSP, SCE) - NEW ENTRY
44.) RESISTANCE (PS3, SCE)
45.) Sengoku Musou 2 Empires (PS2, Koei)
46.) Tomb Raider Legend (PS2, Spike) - NEW ENTRY
47.) Kanji Quiz (NDS, Rocket Company)
48.) Housekeeping (NDS, Bandai Namuco) - NEW ENTRY
49.) Disgaea Portable (PSP, Nippon Ichi)
50.) Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters (NDS, Konami)
56.) Swing Golf Pangya (Wii, Tecmo) - 5,700 | 23,000　[ 41% ]
59.) SD Gundam SCAD Hammers (Wii, Bandai Namco) - 4,800 | 14,000 [ 29% ]
61.) Rhythm Tengoku (GBA, Nintendo) - 4,600 | 264,000　[ 95% ]
64.) Parappa the Rapper (PSP, SCE) -　4,200 | NEW ENTRY [ 17% ]
65.) Phoenix Wright Justice for All (NDS, Capcom) -　4,200 | 61,000 [ 70% ]
78.) Red Steel　(Wii, Ubisoft) - 3,100 | 12,000 [ 25% ]
79.) Tingle RPG (NDS, Nintendo) -　3,100 | 190,000 [ 89% ]
81.) Custom Robo Arena (NDS, Nintendo) - 3,000 | 90,000 [ 76% ]
82.) Dead or Alive X2 (360, Tecmo) -　3,000 | 52,000 [ 69% ]
89.) Phoenix Wright　(NDS, Capcom) - 2,500 | 118,000 [ 88% ]
100.) Crayon Shinchan (Wii) -　1,900 | 6,200 [ 19% ]

 

[AniHawk]

Good lord. Another 300k for the DS.

 

[mj1108]

Good lord. Another 300k for the DS.

Next week: 400k? 500k?

 

[Branduil]

Good lord. Another 300k for the DS.

Man, it's too bad those weren't sold to American adults. Then those numbers would actually matter.

 

[Xeke]

Good lord. Another 300k for the DS.

Yea but once DSL LTD catches up with DS LTD they will stop selling, cause it's really just people buying replacements.

DS is in its final life stage.

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

Next week: 400k? 500k?

Why not.. Holidays are coming up.. Though does japan have the supply?

Even in the US Coral Pink is rare as gold.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

I wonder why there is such a discrepency between the media create and famitsu numbers this week.

It's the Media Create and Dengeki numbers which are off. The Famitsu numbers are a week behind, as usual.

Next week: 400k? 500k?

How many can they ship is the question. In the equivalent week last year, though, 408,770 were sold.

Yea but once DSL LTD catches up with DS LTD they will stop selling, cause it's really just people buying replacements.

DS is in its final life stage.

I guess next week's numbers will only be about 140K, then.

 

[Xeke]

I guess next week's numbers will only be about 140K, then.

Yea and expect an even bigger drop after that. I'd say 20,000 the following week.

 

[underfooter]

Yea and expect an even bigger drop after that. I'd say 20,000 the following week.

DSL at 20k? It hasn't been that low in like a year.

 

[Xeke]

DSL at 20k? It hasn't been that low in like a year.

But once all the replacements are bought there will be no real reason for people to buy one anymore. I bet by this time next year most 3rd parties will have jumped ship.

 

[NintendosBooger]

But once all the replacements are bought there will be no real reason for people to buy one anymore. I bet by this time next year most 3rd parties will have jumped ship.

 

[Xeke]

Don't be hatin.

I guess there is a chance my predictions could be off, but I think they're rock solid.............:lol

 

[davepoobond]

people are perceived as crazy before their predictions come true.

but for this one, i'll be drinkin the haterade.

you on crack xeke.

 

[AniHawk]

people are perceived as crazy before their predictions come true.

but for this one, i'll be drinkin the haterade.

you on crack xeke.

Ready to eat crow?

 

[Xeke]

people are perceived as crazy before their predictions come true.

but for this one, i'll be drinkin the haterade.

you on crack xeke.

:lol

 

[underfooter]

But once all the replacements are bought there will be no real reason for people to buy one anymore. I bet by this time next year most 3rd parties will have jumped ship.

How can you possibly say DS lite will be down to 20k a week in two weeks, after looking at how its been selling for the past year? Do you mean to say 3rd parties will jump ship from DS lite? or TO DS lite.

 

[RaijinFY]

No problem Updated the following as well, thanks to various numbers lying around this topic:

11.) Love and Berry DS Collection - 54,000 | 536,000 [ 62% of shipment sold ]
12.) New Super Mario Bros. - 54,000 | 3,540,000 [ 96% ]
13.) Momotarou Dentetsu 16
14.) 1000 DS Recipes
15.) Animal Crossing Wild World - 42,000 | 3,510,000 [ 97% ]
16.) More Brain Age - 37,000 | 3,520,000 [ 96% ]
17.) Zelda no Densetsu: Twilight Princess
18.) Tales of Destiny
19.) Yakuza (PS2 The Best)
20.) Final Fantasy VI Advance
21.) Brighter than Dawning Blue
22.) Power Pro Kun Pocket 9
23.) Odoru Made in Wario
24.) Kirarin Star Revolution Naasan to Issho
25.) Brain Age
26.) Mario Kart DS - 19,000 | 1,784,000 [ 97% ]
27.) 200 Mannin Kanji - 19,000 | 111,000 [ 69% ]
28.) DS Cuisine Navigator
29.) J League Winning Eleven 10
30.) English Training DS

31.) Summon Night 4 (PS2, Banpresto)
32.) Magic Compendium (NDS, Nintendo)
33.) Electric Brain Repetition (NDS, Shogakukan Inc.) - NEW ENTRY
34.) Mah-Jong Fighting Spirit Club (NDS, Konami) - NEW ENTRY
35.) Tamagotchi Corner Shop 2 (NDS, Bandai Namco)
36.) Drum Expert 7th Generation (PS2, Bandai Namco)
37.) Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square Enix) - 11,000　| 888,000　[ 83% ]
38.) Ridge Racer 7 (PS3, Bandai Namco)
39.) Gundam Target in Sight (PS3, Bandai Namco)
40.) Kanji Shiken (NDS, Spike) - 8,900　| 34,000　[ 45% ]
41.) Blurring Shock (NDS, Taito) - 8,600 | NEW ENTRY [ 47% ]
42.) Tetris DS (NDS, Nintendo) - 8,600　| 926,000　[ 95% ]
43.) Racing Game (PSP, SCE) - NEW ENTRY
44.) RESISTANCE (PS3, SCE)
45.) Sengoku Musou 2 Empires (PS2, Koei)
46.) Tomb Raider Legend (PS2, Spike) - NEW ENTRY
47.) Kanji Quiz (NDS, Rocket Company)
48.) Housekeeping (NDS, Bandai Namuco) - NEW ENTRY
49.) Disgaea Portable (PSP, Nippon Ichi)
50.) Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters (NDS, Konami)
56.) Swing Golf Pangya (Wii, Tecmo) - 5,700 | 23,000　[ 41% ]
59.) SD Gundam SCAD Hammers (Wii, Bandai Namco) - 4,800 | 14,000 [ 29% ]
61.) Rhythm Tengoku (GBA, Nintendo) - 4,600 | 264,000　[ 95% ]
64.) Parappa the Rapper (PSP, SCE) -　4,200 | NEW ENTRY [ 17% ]
65.) Phoenix Wright Justice for All (NDS, Capcom) -　4,200 | 61,000 [ 70% ]
78.) Red Steel　(Wii, Ubisoft) - 3,100 | 12,000 [ 25% ]
79.) Tingle RPG (NDS, Nintendo) -　3,100 | 190,000 [ 89% ]
81.) Custom Robo Arena (NDS, Nintendo) - 3,000 | 90,000 [ 76% ]
82.) Dead or Alive X2 (360, Tecmo) -　3,000 | 52,000 [ 69% ]
89.) Phoenix Wright　(NDS, Capcom) - 2,500 | 118,000 [ 88% ]
100.) Crayon Shinchan (Wii) -　1,900 | 6,200 [ 19% ]

What are the numbers for Ridge and Gundam PS3?

 

[cvxfreak]

Don't be hatin.

I guess there is a chance my predictions could be off, but I think they're rock solid.............:lol

Your logic is infalliable.

 

[Xeke]

Your logic is infalliable.

Thanks, I really pride myself in my work.

 

[jesusraz]

What are the numbers for Ridge and Gundam PS3?

Well, given the following information in bold:

37.) Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square Enix) - 11,000　| 888,000　[ 83% ]
40.) Kanji Shiken (NDS, Spike) - 8,900 | 34,000　[ 45% ]

I'd have to hazard a guess at:

38.) Ridge Racer 7 (PS3, Bandai Namco) - 10,000
39.) Gundam Target in Sight (PS3, Bandai Namco) - 9,300

 

[Hero]

12.) New Super Mario Bros. - 54,000 | 3,540,000 [ 96% ]

NSMB is approaching 4 million alone in Japan? Jeez. What are US numbers so far?

NSMB2 please.

 

[RaijinFY]

Well, given the following information in bold:

37.) Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square Enix) - 11,000　| 888,000　[ 83% ]
40.) Kanji Shiken (NDS, Spike) - 8,900 | 34,000　[ 45% ]

I'd have to hazard a guess at:

38.) Ridge Racer 7 (PS3, Bandai Namco) - 10,000
39.) Gundam Target in Sight (PS3, Bandai Namco) - 9,300

Thx but actually I wanted the total for both... still thx though.

 

[MrSardonic]

DSL 309,630
Wii 85,439
PS3 50,171
Xbox360 35,343
PS2 30,460
PSP 28,930

Holy ****.

- DSL sales are incredible
- Wii sales around what was expected and good software sales
- PS3 sales are better but no PS3 software until #38 in the chart. Not good
- PSP sales are poor and no PSP software until #43 in the chart.

Pretty worrying software sales for Sony at the moment. I'm sure the trend will change for the PS3 once supply is there and new software is released, but it is very bad news for the PSP in Japan.

Yea how do two companies get 25,000 units away from eachother.

they extrapolate from limited surveys. hence why neither figure last week matched the 400k figure Nintendo said was shipped and sold out.

 

[AniHawk]

Holy ****.

- DSL sales are incredible
- Wii sales around what was expected and good software sales
- PS3 sales are better but no PS3 software until #38 in the chart. Not good
- PSP sales are poor and no PSP software until #43 in the chart.

Pretty worrying software sales for Sony at the moment. I'm sure the trend will change for the PS3 once supply is there and new software is released, but it is very bad news for the PSP in Japan.



they extrapolate from limited surveys. hence why neither figure last week matched the 400k figure Nintendo said was shipped and sold out.

Dude, PSP is gone. It's done. It's doing worse than the GC was at this point (software wise).

 

[Elios83]

Holy ****.

- DSL sales are incredible
- Wii sales around what was expected and good software sales
- PS3 sales are better but no PS3 software until #38 in the chart. Not good
- PSP sales are poor and no PSP software until #43 in the chart.

Pretty worrying software sales for Sony at the moment. I'm sure the trend will change for the PS3 once supply is there and new software is released, but it is very bad news for the PSP in Japan.



they extrapolate from limited surveys. hence why neither figure last week matched the 400k figure Nintendo said was shipped and sold out.

Well it's not like there can be miracles for PS3 software sales in Japan. RR7 and Gundam are selling to 20-30% of the userbase so far which is pretty good,but if the installed base is less than 250k you just can't have big numbers.
I don't think Wii software sales are that good either,with third parties games MIA, Zelda doing terrible, only Wii Sports and Wii Play are selling well.

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

Dude, PSP is gone. It's done. It's doing worse than the GC was at this point (software wise).

It still has a market as a media player, and Sony's making a profit off the idividual units now. Worldwide, the thing's doing okay. I think it'll also gain more software development as the PS2 fades - there'll be alot of people doing development at that level who won't want to incur the cost of developing on PS360 and will see it as a viable outlet.

 

[AniHawk]

It still has a market as a media player, and Sony's making a profit off the idividual units now. Worldwide, the thing's doing okay. I think it'll also gain more software development as the PS2 fades - there'll be alot of people doing development at that level who won't want to incur the cost of developing on PS360 and will see it as a viable outlet.

If they're going to go with a cheaper-than-current-gen stuff, then they're not going to stop at the PSP.

 

[yilmazz]

Maybe they couldn't ship more Wiis to Japan because they launched in PALatia?

 

[Ganondorf>Link]

Well it's not like there can be miracles for PS3 software sales in Japan. RR7 and Gundam are selling to 20-30% of the userbase so far which is pretty good,but if the installed base is less than 250k you just can't have big numbers.
I don't think Wii software sales are that good either,with third parties games MIA, Zelda doing terrible, only Wii Sports and Wii Play are selling well.

So RR7 and Gundam selling to 20-30% of PS3's userbase is pretty good, but Zelda selling to 40% of Wii's userbase is terrible?

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

If they're going to go with a cheaper-than-current-gen stuff, then they're not going to stop at the PSP.

When Namco is saying they have to sell 500k copies of Retread Racer 7 to turn a profit, you know things are out of control. I don't think you can compare the costs of the PS3 era to the PS2 era.

 

[Elios83]

So RR7 and Gundam selling to 20-30% of PS3's userbase is pretty good, but Zelda selling to 40% of Wii's userbase is terrible?

Expectations, Zelda is the best game Nintendo has made in a long time.It should have outsold those non-games with ease (as happaned in the US market).Those sales show that Japanese don't care about Zelda,and that's terrible indeed.

 

[Ganondorf>Link]

Expectations, Zelda is the best game Nintendo has made in a long time.It should have outsold those non-games with ease (as happaned in the US market).Those sales show that Japanese don't care about Zelda,and that's terrible indeed.

What the sales show, is that there are more non-gamers buying the system than standard/hardcore gamers. I don't like to see Wii Sports outselling Zelda either (Wii Play shouldn't really count, it comes with a free controller), but Zelda isn't doing terrible. Last week it sold 40% of what the Wii sold, and it seems to have done the same this week, I expect it'll keep this tie-ratio for a while.

 

[yilmazz]

So Wii sports is a non game now? You certainly cannot count Wii play because that's just a way to get a controller with a free tech demo.. who wouldn't get that instead of only a controller for almost the same price? What other Wii game has outsold Zelda?

 

[MasterMFauli]

So, did Animal Crossing DS beat DQ8 already?

 

[A-Button]

Expectations, Zelda is the best game Nintendo has made in a long time.It should have outsold those non-games with ease (as happaned in the US market).Those sales show that Japanese don't care about Zelda,and that's terrible indeed.

in my oppinion it basically shows that nintendo japan have a lead over nintendo usa/europa concerning nongamers. here in europe it seems to me that especially the nintendo fan(boy)s got their Wiis at launch. of course, those kind of gamers want zelda too. but i don't think the average brainage or nintendogs player needs zelda...

also, as much as i enjoy zelda, IMO it is nothing new. i understand if somebody was more curious about wiisports than zelda. (i spent the first two days playing wiisports/wiiplay with friends, now i play zelda...)

 

[ziran]

Expectations, Zelda is the best game Nintendo has made in a long time.It should have outsold those non-games with ease (as happaned in the US market).Those sales show that Japanese don't care about Zelda,and that's terrible indeed.

:lol

wii sports and wii play are games, you might not like them, but they are most definitely games, and it was obvious wii sports and wii play were always going to outsell zelda.

however, with zelda, i think you're right to an extent, but the bigger picture is there has been a massive shift in gaming tastes in the japanese market. i'm expecting just as big declines for mgs, dmc, gt and many of the other big, more traditional, games in japan.

 

[mariok]

23.) Odoru Made in Wario

It is to low.

 

[bloke]

first day sales from http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/day-20061215.html

NDS Fuurani no Shiren 50k
NDS Ryuusei no RockMan 40k all 3 versions
NDS Puyo Puyo 15th an. 20k
Wii Pokemon Battle Rev. 35k

titles that sold between 10-15k if I got it right
PSP WE10
NDS Chocobo to Mahou
360 EDF3
Wii Bleach
PS3 Motorstorm
360 Oneechanbara vX