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Media Create Sales: 04 - 10 Dec (HOLY ****ING CRAP edition)

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jimbo

Banned
syllogism said:
PSU PS2 was released 3 months ago, why on earth would anyone in Japan buy PSU 360 considering the userbase
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Uhm, if the 360 user base can buy 80k copies of Blue Dragon they can buy 20k copies of the best version of PSU. Voice chat alone is worth it over the PS2 version. Besides, PSU 360 can be played with other 360 players world-wide, unlike the PC and PS2 versions, so user base wouldn't have been an issue for them. I never minded playing with the Japanese in the original game on Dreamcast and Xbox.
 
S

syllogism

Member
jimbo said:
Uhm, if the 360 user base can buy 80k copies of Blue Dragon they can buy 20k copies of the best version of PSU. Voice chat alone is worth it over the PS2 version. Besides, PSU 360 can be played with other 360 players world-wide, unlike the PC and PS2 versions, so user base wouldn't have been an issue for them. I never minded playing with the Japanese in the original game on Dreamcast and Xbox.
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Are you suggesting they should have waited 3 months to buy a marginally better version of this multiplayer game none of their friends will likely own? Even if they didn't mind playing with strangers, the language barrier is a pretty big deal.
 
K

kisakiproject

Member
Jonnyram said:
DS
Shiren - 50k
Puyo Puyo - 18k
Rockman:
Pegasus - 16k
Dragon - 14k
Leo - 13k
Chocobo - 13k
Naruto - 10k
Kabutore - 8k
SNK vs Cap Card - 4k

PS2
Wild Arms Vth - 43k
Power Pro 13 final - 18k
Beatmania IIDX12 Happy Sky - 10k

PSP
WE10 Ubiquitous - 16k
Maplus - 5.5k

Wii
Pokermans - 34k
Bleach - 9k

360
EDF3 - 9k
WEX - 7k
Oneechan - 6k
PSU - bomba?

PS3
Motorstorm - 7k

So basically EDF3 > WEX = Motorstorm :D
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Yikes EDF3 sold the best??? Looks like 360 momentum is dead. Will Lost Planet flop??? Looks like Wii is officially a Flop? Next gen in japan dead confirmed? Non gaming killed even Pokemon.

But seriosuly everything looks really low. Did the market colapse this week? Square Enix to leave DS????? Seriosuly wtf.
 
J

jimbo

Banned
syllogism said:
Are you suggesting they should have waited 3 months to buy a marginally better version of this multiplayer game none of their friends will likely own? Even if they didn't mind playing with strangers, the language barrier is a pretty big deal.
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Well if you assume that everyone that owns a 360 also owns a PS2, you have a point. But even so, after playing PSO with keyboard and PSO + PSU with voice chat there is a lot more than just a marginal difference. It completely changes the speed of the game + communication. It eliminates all the clunkiness. Not to mention you also have the benefit of 720p which is equally important when you consider how small the menu text is. So yeah, I would expect that some WOULD wait for the much more playabale version of PSU. But I guess I was wrong.
 
A

A Link to the Past

Banned
kisakiproject said:
Yikes EDF3 sold the best??? Looks like 360 momentum is dead. Will Lost Planet flop??? Looks like Wii is officially a Flop? Next gen in japan dead confirmed? Non gaming killed even Pokemon.

But seriosuly everything looks really low. Did the market colapse this week? Square Enix to leave DS????? Seriosuly wtf.
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Uh, the Dragon wasn't DQMBR, but rather Mega Man.
 
J

jimbo

Banned
kisakiproject said:
Yikes EDF3 sold the best??? Looks like 360 momentum is dead. Will Lost Planet flop??? Looks like Wii is officially a Flop? Next gen in japan dead confirmed? Non gaming killed even Pokemon.

But seriosuly everything looks really low. Did the market colapse this week? Square Enix to leave DS????? Seriosuly wtf.
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Uhm, I don't believe any of those games are anywhere near the same level as Lost Planet. Sure you could make a case for WEX, but as is the case with PSU, it looks like most people that wanted to play the PS2 games PSU and WEX bought them on the PS2. After all, both of them are nothing more than pretty much PS2 ports.

In any case though, you are right, these numbers suck all the way around. There's no spinning this.
 
B

Busaiku

Member
kisakiproject said:
Kay I was wrong about the DQ. Put if pokemond doesnt have legs nintendo is ****ed!
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Didn't Pokemon Colleseum only debut at around 150k in the 1st week with the Gamecube install base around 2.5 million, and the console well on its 2nd year?
Pokemon Battle Revolution, in comparison is doing pretty well considering the install base is only around 450k+, for its 1st day. Nothing spectacular, but not terrible either.
 
L

Lapsed

Banned
Mato said:
How the hell is PS3 ever going to take off, there's nothing in the near future that could sprout a craze big enought for that. Sony is in such a difficult position right now, stuck on a very outdated business model and strategy. They need to work hard or PS3 will go the PSP way.
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The PS3 is so good that it does not need any games to sell (how many consoles can say that?). Remember, consumers don't buy consoles based on games, on user experience, or any of that nonsense, they only rely on brand. The great analysts of our time have repeatedly said that the PS3 will win this generation (and they are SOOOOO smart, so much smarter than us stupid gamers). The PS3 has not overshot the market, it was ingeniously 'future proofed' meaning that years from now, gamers will go, "LOL, why am I playing with mediocre hardware? I must go out and get a PS3 immediately!" This will be the same time when they realize, "Hey, why am I watching ugly DVD video? I must replace my DVD collection immediately with Blu-Ray!"

The Wii is a novelty that will soon fade, and everyone will return to TRUE GAMING which is the PS3 (nevermind that no one is buying PS3 games). The DS is also about to be seen as 'old' and 'tired' as Japan will embrace the future proofed PSP. Remember that video games are not about entertainment, they are about hardware.

Sony is losing hundreds of millions over the PS3. Nintendo could learn from Sony's business genius.

The reason why there has been so much confusion is that the sales charts keep getting messed up by including non-gaming machines into the gaming charts.

Gaming Hardware Chart

1.) PlayStation 3 - 50,171 | 31,436 | 238,007 | 238,007
2.) Xbox 360 - 35,343 | 4,053 | 142,846 | 213,412
3.) PlayStation 2 - 30,460 | 23,115 | 1,328,127 | 20,032,751
4.) PlayStation Portable - 28,930 | 23,917 | 1,592,948 | 4,275,904
5.) Game Boy Advance SP - 1,896 | 1,572 | 217,136 | 5,909,572
6.) Game Boy micro - 1,555 | 1,252 | 138,274 | 553,963
7.) GameCube - 569 | 821 | 72,629 | 4,166,219
8.) Game Boy Advance - 17 | 22 | 3,309 | 8,822,959
9.) Xbox - 6 | 11 | 1,752 | 475,595
10.) Lapsed's Shoebox of Rocks - 1 | 0 | 1 | 1

Non-Gaming Hardware Chart

1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 309,630 | 176,901 | 6,441,813 | 6,441,813
2.) Nintendo Wii - 85,439 | 350,358 | 435,797 | 435,797
3.) Nintendo DS - 167 | 140 | 934,766 | 6,581,715

As you can see, the PS3 and Xbox 360 dominate the gaming chart while Nintendo DS and Wii are choking in their isolation in the non-gaming chart. Poor Nintendo! (They ought to go third party!)
 
M

Mithos Yggdrasill

Banned
Lapsed said:
As you can see, the PS3 and Xbox 360 dominate the gaming chart while Nintendo DS and Wii are choking in their isolation in the non-gaming chart. Poor Nintendo! (They ought to go third party!)
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:lol :lol :lol An original way to see the market in Japan.
 
J

jimbo

Banned
Lapsed said:

Gaming Hardware Chart

1.) PlayStation 3 - 50,171 | 31,436 | 238,007 | 238,007
2.) Xbox 360 - 35,343 | 4,053 | 142,846 | 213,412
3.) PlayStation 2 - 30,460 | 23,115 | 1,328,127 | 20,032,751
4.) PlayStation Portable - 28,930 | 23,917 | 1,592,948 | 4,275,904
5.) Game Boy Advance SP - 1,896 | 1,572 | 217,136 | 5,909,572
6.) Game Boy micro - 1,555 | 1,252 | 138,274 | 553,963
7.) GameCube - 569 | 821 | 72,629 | 4,166,219
8.) Game Boy Advance - 17 | 22 | 3,309 | 8,822,959
9.) Xbox - 6 | 11 | 1,752 | 475,595
10.) Lapsed's Shoebox of Rocks - 1 | 0 | 1 | 1

Non-Gaming Hardware Chart

1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 309,630 | 176,901 | 6,441,813 | 6,441,813
2.) Nintendo Wii - 85,439 | 350,358 | 435,797 | 435,797
3.) Nintendo DS - 167 | 140 | 934,766 | 6,581,715

As you can see, the PS3 and Xbox 360 dominate the gaming chart while Nintendo DS and Wii are choking in their isolation in the non-gaming chart. Poor Nintendo! (They ought to go third party!)
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:lol

Edit: Thank you for posting the numbers. Seriously though guys, this thread must not die. Can we get some hardware and software predictions a la NPD for next week? Hey someone start a thread!!! Maybe I will.
 
P

Pimpwerx

Member
Honestly, the DS is skewing the charts so much right now, that putting it in it's own category almost seems fitting. I don't think even the PS2 ever saw such a tremendous explosion in sales the way the DS has. And to think it all really started with Nintendogs. :( PEACE.
 
apotema

apotema

Member
I don't think these numbers are bad.

Rockman: It is like 43k first day, maybe this game will sell better on the weekend and also a lot better on Christmas weekend (usually they have legs). Maybe the slow start is due the introduction of a "New" Series

Pokemon: Same case, will end in 120k first week, more or less

Furai: Remake, won't sell a gazillion

Chocobo: I remember a GBA Chocobo game that couldn't even chart in 2003

Motorstorm: BoMbA
 
D

donny2112

Member
geox said:
I translated this week's Famitsu top 30. It covers 2006.11.27 to 2006.12.03. I wanted to post a new topic, but as a new user I lack the permission...
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FYI, we don't post new topics for the weekly Famitsu data. We just post it in the current Media-Create thread.

I, obviously, realize you've already done Famitsu for this week, but for consistency's sake, I'll do it this week, too. ;)


Famitsu Nov 27-Dec 3

1. PS2 Tales of Destiny 256288 / NEW
2. WII Wii Sports 176880 / NEW
3. WII Wii Play 171888 / NEW
4. WII Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 145068 / NEW
5. GBA Final Fantasy VI Advance 137091 / NEW
6. PS2 Summon Night 4 116761 / NEW
7. NDS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl 100215 / 3372306
8. NDS Jump Ultimate Stars 75810 / 245550
9. NDS Love & Berry DS 66159 / 491539
10. WII Wario Ware: Smooth Moves 63086 / NEW
11. NDS General Knowledge Training 46737 / 625970
12. NDS Hoshi no Kirby DS 38401 / 352372
13. PS2 J-League Winning Eleven 10 + Europe League 06-07 28330 / 119129
14. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 28132 / 3435229
15. PS2 Yakuza (BEST) 27309 / 157022
16. NDS Brain Training 2 23878 / 3488589
17. PSP Makai Senki Disgaea Portable 21712 / NEW
18. PS2 Kamen Rider Kabuto 20570 / NEW
19. NDS Yugioh Duel Monsters GX Spirit Summoner 20521 / NEW
20. PS2 Sengoku Musou 2 Empires 18350 / 147105
21. NDS Kanji Brain 17720 / 92359
22. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 16841 / 3379642
23. NDS Magic Taizen 14853 / 60468
24. WII Swing Golf Pangya 12673 / NEW
25. PSP Jeanne D'Arc 12572 / 56852
26. NDS Brain Training 12087 / 2871556
27. NDS Gotouchi Kenkei DS 11934 / 27231
28. WII Ennichi no Tatsujin 10192 / NEW
29. WII SD Gundam 9801 / NEW
30. NDS English Training 9648 / 1436748
 
L

LanceStern

Banned
Just when I finally say I'm impressed by DS 3rd party sales (I think last weeks thread) THESE first day sales pop up.

Deja Vu.

Anyways, I am optimistic about ALL those first day sales for DS and Wii. I believe it's just the previous big hit DS titles (new Super Mario, Kirby, Common Knowledge, AC, Pokemon, Brain Age, Love and Berry)... gosh that's a lot.

THOSE titles are sucking the life from the launches of these other titles. I don't know if that's good or bad, but at least a majority of those titles are REAL games.

For the Wii, I REALLY hope it isn't Wii Sports and rather Zelda fighting it's way back to the top of the charts. I'm glad for Pokemon sales because Wii still only ahs a small userbase. In fact, I'm surprised Japan has forgave Nintendo and bought that many Pokemon BR after XD and Colosseum, ESPECIALLY since this is a downgrade from those two.
 
R

Rock_Man

Member
LanceStern said:
I cannot for the life of me get the DSLite YTD to be what jesusraz posted it at. Mine sticks to 6,437,200

Any ideas?
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68438
89790
104452
119986
149371
154731
140969
168809
225835
161010
91895
160182
285025
135614
132027
141487
157022
153566
149454
140858
262453
176853
163572
196719
74495
163274
228939
113831
134885
139835
274389
124137
104487
116941
158681
113097
148174
128621
201378
176901
309630

Interesting that the launch week still is the lowest by the way.
 
L

LanceStern

Banned
MCChart.jpg


Where's our difference?

I have 87,282 you have 91,000. Hmm
 
J

jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
Those first day sales must be fake or video games are REALLY dead beyond belief. It's December... WTF?
 
J

Jammy

Banned
jj984jj said:
Those first day sales must be fake or it video games are REALLY dead beyond belief. It's December... WTF?
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Don't Japan sales pick up a shitload during the last two weeks of December and the first week of the New Year?
 
C

cvxfreak

Member
Yep. But first day sales can always be deceiving. Biohazard 4 on PS2 had 40K for its first day and 240K its first four days -- either first day counts weren't totally accurate or it picked up over the next few days.
 
G

Grampa Simpson

Banned
For those of you out there with all the numbers, I have an idea for a new statistic. Average rate per week. Total sales divided by weeks on market. You could even do graphs on this data. Cool.
 
Z

ziran

Member
Lapsed said:
The PS3 is so good that it does not need any games to sell (how many consoles can say that?). Remember, consumers don't buy consoles based on games, on user experience, or any of that nonsense, they only rely on brand. The great analysts of our time have repeatedly said that the PS3 will win this generation (and they are SOOOOO smart, so much smarter than us stupid gamers). The PS3 has not overshot the market, it was ingeniously 'future proofed' meaning that years from now, gamers will go, "LOL, why am I playing with mediocre hardware? I must go out and get a PS3 immediately!" This will be the same time when they realize, "Hey, why am I watching ugly DVD video? I must replace my DVD collection immediately with Blu-Ray!"

The Wii is a novelty that will soon fade, and everyone will return to TRUE GAMING which is the PS3 (nevermind that no one is buying PS3 games). The DS is also about to be seen as 'old' and 'tired' as Japan will embrace the future proofed PSP. Remember that video games are not about entertainment, they are about hardware.

Sony is losing hundreds of millions over the PS3. Nintendo could learn from Sony's business genius.

The reason why there has been so much confusion is that the sales charts keep getting messed up by including non-gaming machines into the gaming charts.

Gaming Hardware Chart

1.) PlayStation 3 - 50,171 | 31,436 | 238,007 | 238,007
2.) Xbox 360 - 35,343 | 4,053 | 142,846 | 213,412
3.) PlayStation 2 - 30,460 | 23,115 | 1,328,127 | 20,032,751
4.) PlayStation Portable - 28,930 | 23,917 | 1,592,948 | 4,275,904
5.) Game Boy Advance SP - 1,896 | 1,572 | 217,136 | 5,909,572
6.) Game Boy micro - 1,555 | 1,252 | 138,274 | 553,963
7.) GameCube - 569 | 821 | 72,629 | 4,166,219
8.) Game Boy Advance - 17 | 22 | 3,309 | 8,822,959
9.) Xbox - 6 | 11 | 1,752 | 475,595
10.) Lapsed's Shoebox of Rocks - 1 | 0 | 1 | 1

Non-Gaming Hardware Chart

1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 309,630 | 176,901 | 6,441,813 | 6,441,813
2.) Nintendo Wii - 85,439 | 350,358 | 435,797 | 435,797
3.) Nintendo DS - 167 | 140 | 934,766 | 6,581,715

As you can see, the PS3 and Xbox 360 dominate the gaming chart while Nintendo DS and Wii are choking in their isolation in the non-gaming chart. Poor Nintendo! (They ought to go third party!)
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:lol
 
P

polg

Member
Lapsed said:
Non-Gaming Hardware Chart

1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 309,630 | 176,901 | 6,441,813 | 6,441,813
2.) Nintendo Wii - 85,439 | 350,358 | 435,797 | 435,797
3.) Nintendo DS - 167 | 140 | 934,766 | 6,581,715
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the dsl will have sold more units in 10 months (or is it 11?) than the DS in its lifetime.

I said wow (and I was right months ago :p)
 
P

Parl

Member
Who here on GAF has Sales Figures Disorder?

SFD is where you really, really love it when sales figures come through (even when the week isn't significant for releases of games or consoles or any other special occasions), and when they do, you don't really care, unless something unexpected or irregularly impressive happens.
 
V

verplant

Member
donny2112 said:
geox said:
I translated this week's Famitsu top 30. It covers 2006.11.27 to 2006.12.03. I wanted to post a new topic, but as a new user I lack the permission...

http://www.dendenstyle.com/famitsu/famitsu-top-30-2006-11-27.html
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FYI, we don't post new topics for the weekly Famitsu data. We just post it in the current Media-Create thread.

I, obviously, realize you've already done Famitsu for this week, but for consistency's sake, I'll do it this week, too. ;)


Famitsu Nov 27-Dec 3
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You ignore me: klick :lol
 
A

apujanata

Member
bmf said:
For those of you out there with all the numbers, I have an idea for a new statistic. Average rate per week. Total sales divided by weeks on market. You could even do graphs on this data. Cool.
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Any specific game you like ? I follow Famitsu, so no M-create average from me.

For starters, for some of the 3Million+ games, sorted by average :
Title Weekly Average
New Super Mario Brothers 128,224
More Brain Age (Brain Age 2) 72,832
Animal Crossing : Wild World (Oideyo) 63,793
Dragon Quest VIII 62,873
Pokemon Ruby & Saphire 32,819
 
P

phez

Banned
I never understood DS numbers, no matter if its Asia or North America. I mean, I do not know anybody locally that has a DS, let alone see them out in public (toronto).
 
A

AniHawk

Member
Lapsed said:
The PS3 is so good that it does not need any games to sell (how many consoles can say that?). Remember, consumers don't buy consoles based on games, on user experience, or any of that nonsense, they only rely on brand. The great analysts of our time have repeatedly said that the PS3 will win this generation (and they are SOOOOO smart, so much smarter than us stupid gamers). The PS3 has not overshot the market, it was ingeniously 'future proofed' meaning that years from now, gamers will go, "LOL, why am I playing with mediocre hardware? I must go out and get a PS3 immediately!" This will be the same time when they realize, "Hey, why am I watching ugly DVD video? I must replace my DVD collection immediately with Blu-Ray!"

The Wii is a novelty that will soon fade, and everyone will return to TRUE GAMING which is the PS3 (nevermind that no one is buying PS3 games). The DS is also about to be seen as 'old' and 'tired' as Japan will embrace the future proofed PSP. Remember that video games are not about entertainment, they are about hardware.

Sony is losing hundreds of millions over the PS3. Nintendo could learn from Sony's business genius.

The reason why there has been so much confusion is that the sales charts keep getting messed up by including non-gaming machines into the gaming charts.

Gaming Hardware Chart

1.) PlayStation 3 - 50,171 | 31,436 | 238,007 | 238,007
2.) Xbox 360 - 35,343 | 4,053 | 142,846 | 213,412
3.) PlayStation 2 - 30,460 | 23,115 | 1,328,127 | 20,032,751
4.) PlayStation Portable - 28,930 | 23,917 | 1,592,948 | 4,275,904
5.) Game Boy Advance SP - 1,896 | 1,572 | 217,136 | 5,909,572
6.) Game Boy micro - 1,555 | 1,252 | 138,274 | 553,963
7.) GameCube - 569 | 821 | 72,629 | 4,166,219
8.) Game Boy Advance - 17 | 22 | 3,309 | 8,822,959
9.) Xbox - 6 | 11 | 1,752 | 475,595
10.) Lapsed's Shoebox of Rocks - 1 | 0 | 1 | 1

Non-Gaming Hardware Chart

1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 309,630 | 176,901 | 6,441,813 | 6,441,813
2.) Nintendo Wii - 85,439 | 350,358 | 435,797 | 435,797
3.) Nintendo DS - 167 | 140 | 934,766 | 6,581,715

As you can see, the PS3 and Xbox 360 dominate the gaming chart while Nintendo DS and Wii are choking in their isolation in the non-gaming chart. Poor Nintendo! (They ought to go third party!)
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Um, you uh... you forgot to mention lapsed gamers.
 
C

cvxfreak

Member
AniHawk said:
NSMB is officially a nongame.
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DQ7 is next. :D

That one sold 4.06M copies IIRC.

Animal Crossing WW and Brain Age 2 are almost there as well.

15. Animal Crossing Wild World - 42,000 / 3,510,000
16. More Brain Age - 37,000 / 3,520,000
 
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