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Only because Nintendo isn't releasing games on other systems. Nintendo has always dominated in Japan. Always. Along with Square Enix. 3rd party's are always in some form competing against Nintendo. Even if it is on a different platform, they are indirectly competing because it's all in the same industry and there's only so much money a customer can spend or only so much shelfspace a retailer has.Jirotrom said:
The only games on PS2 in Japan that come close is pretty much just Square Enix with the nr 2 and nr 3 biggest RPG franchises in Japan. And even all of them don't come even close to the latest Pokemon RPG on DS. Yeah.. so I guess there is just one 3rd party that has arguably real succes at all in Japan? And these games from Square Enix in this case would sell regardless on which platform they are on. Do you think that, say, Dragon Quest IX is gonna do badly or worse dan DQ VIII just because it's on a Nintendo system? I wouldn't bet on it.Jirotrom said:
AnimeTheme
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I guess PSP may outsell NDS next week (or maybe this week) on MC.
norinrad21
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Jirotrom said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol
charlequin said:
Context from how some are using the word. From a denotative standpoint, I think that just about any game can be played casually (not necessarily progress far, but that's beside the point), so the distinction is pointless. We should get back to trying to separate out games from non-games.
Wii Sports - Game
Brain Training - Game
DS Literature Collection - Non-Game
Wine-tasting DS - Non-Game
Seems pretty clear-cut to me.
Jirotrom said:
Fixed.
andthebeatgoeson
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That's interesting because both playstations have significantly larger install bases to accomodate that situation. Put another way, you want a 3rd party game to lead in sales when Nintendo is putting the most work into the platform. If GTA lead on the Wii and everybody knew it, it would have the chance. But every 3rd party is putting more effort into 360 and we can't even expect for 3rd parties to even come close to Nintendo, because Nintendo is in the exclusive position of knowing the base very well.Jirotrom said:
It's their 'inventor dilemma'. That may be the wrong phase but Nintendo has expounded on the phenomenon of making a new type of gameplay and exploiting it until others catch up. Massive Wii Sports interest, Wii Play, Wii Fit way before any other dev can even start to grasp motion controls and casual mainstream gaming. That puts them in the best situation to attain these high sales. In essence, make a fad, milk it before anybody gets to steal it. That's a great position for Nintendo and makes your desires tough to obtain.
Nintendo isn't just making a regular console. They are making a fad but a fad that's gonna last. Or, a revolution. A revolution is just a fad with a lot of deaths. This gen, we will witness a lot of deaths.
BishopLamont
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.Xeke said:
norinrad21
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skinnyrattler said:
3rd parties?
Kurosaki Ichigo
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Far more likely at this rate.Dascu said:
JoshuaJSlone
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Well, I guess it's hard to quantify audience size for traditional gaming on any system, but whatever the size is they sure buy a lot more Wii games.AnimeTheme said:
Jirotrom said:
Whoa, whoa, whoa, that's a ridiculous criteria. Let me explain why.
Worldwide, the PS2 had 5 (now 6) times as many hardware units sold as the GC. Despite that, there are only 5 third party games on the PS2 that sold more than even the second highest selling Nintendo game on the GC. (Those 5 games are FFX, MGS2, GTA3, GTA: SA and GTA: VC). By your criteria, the only third parties to have a successful game on the PS2 were Take Two, Square-Enix & Konami.
Eteric Rice
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justchris said:
Winner.
Did someone earlier say Sim City isn't a game? Because Sim City is what got me into games, it got me into programming and computer science, it's what has me excited about Spore, and that's what got me back into gaming after a long hiatus. So yes, Sim City is a fucking game, whatever Iwata or Miyamoto said. That cool? Good.
There we go.Innotech said:
Now I just need LBP to also perform marvelously when it's out, and then maybe I can hold out a small torch of hope that 2D gaming will continue to exist in any decent capacity next gen. Right now I'm not even sure it'll survive on the successor to the DS, never mind the successors to PSP and Wii (and forget about the PS4 and Xbox1440). :/Granted, games like NSMB, Kirby Squeak Squad, Yoshi's Island DS, etc. have been selling great, but (for whatever reason) portable success rarely seems to influence the industry. I think this generation really, really needs some 2D home console success stories, and it needs them to happen with the only couple of shots it's got or 2D's gone next time around. And I don't want it to go.
Jee, it's a shame that the plethora of real AAA third party games on the Wii aren't met with much success. Millions of people buy cheap, quick cash-ins like Bioshock, CoD4 and Assasin's Creed, but Nintendo fans think they're too good to buy labors of love such as EA's Boogie, and Elf Bowling. Oh, the huge manatee.
So why did Dance Dance Mario bomb then? And why haven't any of the Mario spinoffs sold close to a true Mario platformer?
Ding ding ding. I love Smash, and I have no problem with it being called casual, but this shitstorm would have been avoided if some people didn't use the term to describe SSB in a snide way.
Tickets said:
So why did Dance Dance Mario bomb then? And why haven't any of the Mario spinoffs sold close to a true Mario platformer?
donny2112 said:
Ding ding ding. I love Smash, and I have no problem with it being called casual, but this shitstorm would have been avoided if some people didn't use the term to describe SSB in a snide way.
Sharp said:
Yeah I said it. I'm not going to back off from that because I am simply applying the definition as defined. There's no conflict, bosses, life bar and all that gamey stuff in Sim City.
I also don't mind the non-game moniker, if its fairly applied. If it isn't then it's meaningless. I might as well call all games I dislike non-games.
Haunted One said:
it's up to how people want to define it. If it's fairly applied then it's just a distinction, if it isn't then it does go to show how "retarded" the term is when taken to its logical conclusion and applied to existing non-games.
smash brothers is a hardcore focused game that appeals to casuals as well.
Thats how its always been. It can be either played on a hardcore dedicated level in depth, or it can be played very casually in a group or party environment. Its multipurpose and thats why it sells so well. Im not sure what the argument is.
Thats how its always been. It can be either played on a hardcore dedicated level in depth, or it can be played very casually in a group or party environment. Its multipurpose and thats why it sells so well. Im not sure what the argument is.
Souldriver
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But that doesn't count because it's a last gen port. Christ, get with the program, Innotech!!Innotech said:
_Alkaline_
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Parl said:
So damn true. :lol :lol :lol