StopMakingSense
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cvxfreak said:
Wow, DS is a lot closer to the PS2 than I would have imagined.
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Media Create Sales 2/19 - 2/25
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Wow, DS is a lot closer to the PS2 than I would have imagined.
Pureauthor
Member
FFIII is gone from the top 50 charts, I see.
Ooh, the DS just beat GBA's LTD. Go DS!
Ooh, the DS just beat GBA's LTD. Go DS!
cvxfreak said:
some other LTD (thanks to picture posted by Jonnyram) :
Code:
GameBoy Color 5,067,710 up to 2002 (not sure)
WonderSwan Color 1,318,913 up to 2002 (not sure)
Pocketstation 3,657,454 Up to 2001
NeoGeo Pocket Color 357,162 Up to 2001
WonderSwan 1,014,007 Up to 2001
NeoGeo Pocket 61,752 Up to 2001
Gameboy 10,669,655 Up to 2001Edit : congratulation to PSP for getting 100K/week.
TheGreatDave
Banned
Finn said:
Because Sony were coming in as market leaders in the home console space, with a very strong brand and more impressive tech. People dismissed Nintendo because from 2000 until Iwata started making changes they were pretty easy to dismiss.
Now, of course, they pretty much own Japan.
jamesinclair
Banned
cvxfreak said:
:O
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
This Week Sales:
Since 11/27/07 - 13 total weeks:
360 - Following the trend: 4-6k. Next Gen Avg = 11,746. Post Holiday Avg = 6,254.
Wii - Solid Week. Following the trend: 70-85k. Next Gen Avg = 128,096. Post Holiday Avg = 78,610.
PS3 - Consistent. Following the Trend: 18-23k. Next Gen Avg = 39.991. Post Holiday Avg = 21,254.
Results, Analysis, & Expectations
● The 360's sales are insignificant. They will not hit 1 million units before its successor is announced. 2k-6k per week for the foreseeable future.
● The PS3 has flopped thus far. Three months in and only one title currently in the TOP 50! Multiple factors can be considered, but price must be chief among them. Expected mediocrity until at least October. They are selling very, very consistently (low). 18k-25k per week for the foreseeable future.
● The Wii is clearly dependent upon hardware shipments. Very solid week, indicating a current production capacity (ignoring all other factors, ie holding units back for big releases) of 80k units per week. Expect sales to remain between 68-85k until this is ironed out.
Expectations for 02/26-03/05
360 - 4k
Wii - 75k <--- Production capacity increasing?
PS3 - 19k <--- Even darker times ahead.
This Week's Market Share:
Market Share Week-to-Week
Significant Notes:
1. Wii has a 988k lead on PS3 in 13 weeks.
2. At a constant rate of this week's sales:
a) The Wii will have a 1 million unit lead on the PS3 in exactly 1 week.
b) The Wii will have a 2 million unit lead on the PS3 by June 24th.
c) The Wii will have a 3 million unit lead on the PS3 by October.
Think about the previous for a moment.
3. The PS3 hasn't sold more than 26k in 7 weeks now.
4. The Wii has never sold less than 63k in one week.
5. The PS3 has never come closer than 28% market share, and hasn't gained market share since its second week on sale.
6. The Wii has gained market share every week that it has been on sale but one, and has had more than 50% market share since its 3rd week on sale.
7. The PS3 just had its 2nd worst week ever with 20k units sold.
8. The Wii just sold 4.06x the PS3 in one week, and is up 3.70x on the year.
Since 11/27/07 - 13 total weeks:
360 - Following the trend: 4-6k. Next Gen Avg = 11,746. Post Holiday Avg = 6,254.
Wii - Solid Week. Following the trend: 70-85k. Next Gen Avg = 128,096. Post Holiday Avg = 78,610.
PS3 - Consistent. Following the Trend: 18-23k. Next Gen Avg = 39.991. Post Holiday Avg = 21,254.
Results, Analysis, & Expectations
● The 360's sales are insignificant. They will not hit 1 million units before its successor is announced. 2k-6k per week for the foreseeable future.
● The PS3 has flopped thus far. Three months in and only one title currently in the TOP 50! Multiple factors can be considered, but price must be chief among them. Expected mediocrity until at least October. They are selling very, very consistently (low). 18k-25k per week for the foreseeable future.
● The Wii is clearly dependent upon hardware shipments. Very solid week, indicating a current production capacity (ignoring all other factors, ie holding units back for big releases) of 80k units per week. Expect sales to remain between 68-85k until this is ironed out.
Expectations for 02/26-03/05
360 - 4k
Wii - 75k <--- Production capacity increasing?
PS3 - 19k <--- Even darker times ahead.
This Week's Market Share:
Market Share Week-to-Week
Code:
[B][U]Date____ 360 Wii PS3[/U][/B]
11/27-12/03: 25% 49% 26%
12/04-12/10: 24% 49% 27%
12/11-12/17: 21% 50% 29%
12/18-12/24: 17% 57% 26%
12/25-12/31: 16% 56% 28%
01/01-01/07: 15% 58% 27%
01/08-01/14: 14% 59% 27%
01/15-01/21: 14% 60% 26%
01/22-01/28: 13% 60% 26%
01/29-02/04: 13% 61% 26%
02/05-02/11: 13% 61% 26%
02/12-02/18: 13% 62% 26%
02/19-02/25: 12% 62% 25%Significant Notes:
1. Wii has a 988k lead on PS3 in 13 weeks.
2. At a constant rate of this week's sales:
a) The Wii will have a 1 million unit lead on the PS3 in exactly 1 week.
b) The Wii will have a 2 million unit lead on the PS3 by June 24th.
c) The Wii will have a 3 million unit lead on the PS3 by October.
Think about the previous for a moment.
3. The PS3 hasn't sold more than 26k in 7 weeks now.
4. The Wii has never sold less than 63k in one week.
5. The PS3 has never come closer than 28% market share, and hasn't gained market share since its second week on sale.
6. The Wii has gained market share every week that it has been on sale but one, and has had more than 50% market share since its 3rd week on sale.
7. The PS3 just had its 2nd worst week ever with 20k units sold.
8. The Wii just sold 4.06x the PS3 in one week, and is up 3.70x on the year.
milanbaros
Member?
Does anybody have software attach ratios for the Wii and PS3?
The Gamecube managed a decent ww TR of 9.5 compared to the N64s 6.84. The N64 barely outsold the GCN in terms of software but the GCN's TR fell the previous generation from 7.15 to 6.8. If they can get this up to around 10 then I will see it as a success.
The Gamecube managed a decent ww TR of 9.5 compared to the N64s 6.84. The N64 barely outsold the GCN in terms of software but the GCN's TR fell the previous generation from 7.15 to 6.8. If they can get this up to around 10 then I will see it as a success.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Love the charts and analyses as always, Panther. It's going to be interesting to see the twists and turns on the charts as time passes, particularly what kind of ceiling if any the Wii will hit, and what software if any will help the flagging trajectory of the PS3.
cvxfreak said:
Ah, okay, that makes sense. I haven't been keeping up with the Famitsu charts due to my total lack of ability to read or comprehend Japanese. That being said, seems like releasing multiple versions of a single game all at once is a bad idea from a financial standpoint.
GB + GBC = 15,737,365
Hmmmm, guess DS still has about a month to go to beat grandpappy.
Pantherlotus' notes are quit alarming for PS3 but something tells me with that gundam musou whatever game, things will start to change.
we already have reports about both the game and the PS3 having a good performance, don't we?
it might be in fact the end of the dark times.
I predict 35k - 40k sales next week.
After that, they should try to keep the momentum and release worthy software at least once every 2 weeks. Otherwise they'll suffer the fate of the 360.
we already have reports about both the game and the PS3 having a good performance, don't we?
it might be in fact the end of the dark times.
I predict 35k - 40k sales next week.
After that, they should try to keep the momentum and release worthy software at least once every 2 weeks. Otherwise they'll suffer the fate of the 360.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
schuelma said:
Ask VF5. It went up right around 4k above expectations.
I stand by my predictions. They've been extremely accurate (+/- 5k) since I started them.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
sphinx said:
I predict 35k for the PS3 next week, but I don't know how well that number is going to sustain the next week. Probably down to 25k the week after, then to 20-22k the week after that until the next big piece of soft. It's worth pointing out that the PS3, no matter how badly it does, will never suffer the fate of the 360 in Japan.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
schuelma said:
Look dude, you're expecting the PS3 to magically surge upward from one title. It might bump up a little, but quibbling between the difference of 19k to 30k is insignificant (and shortsighted). The Wii will sell 3-4x that amount without any major releases.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
cvxfreak said:
Wii has 40% of GCN's LTD in 3 months...
crazy shit there.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Just wanted to clarify my last post:
You guys simply cannot keep expecting one title to change anything. It has simply never worked that way. It has always been based on trends and the sum total of what the public wants.
Right now, the Japanese public just aren't interested in PS3 games. And that doesn't bode well. Sony needs to turn shit around, and they need to start about a month ago. They've lost mindshare, they've lost a great chance to hit Nintendo when they're having production issues, and they might have already lost the war. Still, it would be unfair to call it over, at least until April 2008. After that, pretty much everything will be set in stone.
You guys simply cannot keep expecting one title to change anything. It has simply never worked that way. It has always been based on trends and the sum total of what the public wants.
Right now, the Japanese public just aren't interested in PS3 games. And that doesn't bode well. Sony needs to turn shit around, and they need to start about a month ago. They've lost mindshare, they've lost a great chance to hit Nintendo when they're having production issues, and they might have already lost the war. Still, it would be unfair to call it over, at least until April 2008. After that, pretty much everything will be set in stone.
PantherLotus said:
I think you're misinterpreting where I am coming from. When I said a small bump that's what I meant- up to 30-35k max. I am not at all saying or expecting Gundam to make any kind of large term difference AT ALL. Period. I was only talking specifically about the prediction that the PS3 would sell less this week with Gundam on the shelves- that's it. In my personal opinion the PS3 is in huge huge trouble.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Shue-kk. Sorry if I misinterpreted your post. And to clarify, I probably should bump up my predictions to ~24k.
BUT HERE'S THE THING.
If I'm wrong, and it really IS 30k sold...I'm off by 10k units.
Do you realize how insignificant that is when the Wii is selling 72k per week?
BUT HERE'S THE THING.
If I'm wrong, and it really IS 30k sold...I'm off by 10k units.
Do you realize how insignificant that is when the Wii is selling 72k per week?PantherLotus said:Shue-kk. Sorry if I misinterpreted your post. And to clarify, I probably should bump up my predictions to ~24k.
BUT HERE'S THE THING.
If I'm wrong, and it really IS 30k sold...I'm off by 10k units.
Oh I completely agree; I'm just really anal and picky when it comes to that stuff.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Anyone care to find all my mega-posts (the ones with the same format) from the MC posts for the past 10-12 weeks? It's time I start tracking myself for credibility purposes, but I can't seem to find them when I do a search.
Any help?
Edit:
You heard it here first: shuelma really likes anal.
Any help?
Edit:
You heard it here first: shuelma really likes anal.
These conversations are really starting to sound like the DS vs PSP ones we had at the beginning of their life cycle. PSP always needing an influx of sales to catch up and never getting it.
I'm starting to think it's going to be the same for Wii vs PS3. If the story is the same this time next year, I think we'll be able to officially declare a winner in Japan.
I'm starting to think it's going to be the same for Wii vs PS3. If the story is the same this time next year, I think we'll be able to officially declare a winner in Japan.
It's actually behind by a lot.AniHawk said:
Joe Molotov
Member
Wait wait wait, isn't the PS3 behind the GameCube?
Jasoncheng
Member
Dengeki-Ranking
http://www.dengekionline.com/soft/ranking.html
TOP50
NDS:30
PS2:8
Wii:6
PSP:4
XBOX360:1
PS3:1
http://www.dengekionline.com/soft/ranking.html
TOP50
NDS:30
PS2:8
Wii:6
PSP:4
XBOX360:1
PS3:1
ComputerNerd
Banned
Where are these early Gundum reports?