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Media Create Sales 7/2 - 7/8

M3d10n

Member
methane47 said:
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:lol
WTH? Source please!
 

Mirimar

Member
Cheesemeister said:
Interesting: Wii Sports only sold through to 44.13% of new Wii owners this week. Can we get an update to the Wii Sports attach rate chart?

They know Wii Fit is the next best thing.
 

cvxfreak

Member
Jokeropia said:
Dropping from #35 to #38 isn't that bad, is it?

Okay, let me rephrase my argument.

"Famitsu is worse than Wii Fit for not offering a top [insert RE4 Wii spot for the week here]."
 
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Firesprite121984

Unconfirmed Member
sphinx said:
PS3 selling more is o.k but still pityful.

the moment the PS3 sells between 18k and 20k, I will say wow
Definitely would be a nice increase.

Don't know about saying Wow though.
 
Wii comparisons: At 32 weeks, Wii is where GCN was at 119.8 weeks (December 26, 2003), where GBA was at 23.3 weeks (August 28, 2001), where DS was at 37.9 weeks (August 20, 2005), where PS2 was at 40.4 weeks (December 5, 2000), and where PSP was at 60.3 weeks (January 31, 2006).

PS3 comparisons: At 35 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 4.0 weeks (March 25, 2000), where PSP was at 12.8 weeks (March 4, 2005), where GCN was at 16.3 weeks (December 31, 2001), and where Wii was at 5.2 weeks (January 1, 2007).

PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 14.4 / 85.6. The last time PS3 had a relatively stronger week was the first week of April. Total shares now 24.6 / 75.4. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 156.5 weeks (July 8, 2010).

DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 80.9 / 19.1, bringing the total to 76.2 / 23.8. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 378.4 weeks (October 9, 2014).

PSP vs Wii: At this week's rates, Wii catches up to PSP in 63.7 weeks (September 27, 2008).

PS2 vs DS: At this week's rates, DS catches up to PS2 in 19.8 weeks (November 23, 2007) at ~20.87 million apiece.


Nintendo hardware passes 6 million for the year. At 27 weeks, this beats out last year's 39 weeks.

Microsoft hardware passes 120K for the year. At 27 weeks, this beats out last year's 49 weeks.

Sony hardware passes 2 million for the year. At 27 weeks, this is faster than last year's 32 weeks.

FoxHimself said:
DS: 139,286
The rest: 138,181
Of course, you know what this means.
pacchartweekly.php

Broken-jawed Pac-Man.
 

apujanata

Member
4. PS2 - 14,120 | 16,316 | 434,493 | 20,589,352
5. PS3 - 12,691 | 11,914 | 505,622 | 963,180

Soon, PS3 will cross PS2 stream. Will it happen in the next 4 weeks ? Will PS3 ever go below PS2 again ? Stay tune, same M-create channel, same M-create time.

Wii comparisons: At 32 weeks, Wii is where GCN was at 119.8 weeks (December 26, 2003), where GBA was at 23.3 weeks (August 28, 2001), where DS was at 37.9 weeks (August 20, 2005), where PS2 was at 40.4 weeks (December 5, 2000), and where PSP was at 60.3 weeks (January 31, 2006).

I just realized that Wii is almost two times better than PSP (32 vs 60). And that Wii are selling better than PS2 (32 vs 40.4). However, PS2 are going to enjoy christmas sales (Dec 2000) soon, so Wii might sell worse in the next few months (compared to PS2)
 
These numbers are incredible. Is there any predicted "over-saturation" point for Japan with DS sales? DS owners to Japanese population ratio are already over 1:10.

(I refused to buy consoles/portables and stuck only to computers for more than a decade. Then DS had to come along. I propose that it is kind of like a gateway drug, because now I'm glued to gaming sites every night before bed. Thanks for nothing, Nintendo.)
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
sphinx said:
PS3 selling more is o.k but still pityful.

the moment the PS3 sells between 18k and 20k, I will say wow
You forgot "for more than 4 consecutive weeks" there...
 
ThaiGrocer said:
These numbers are incredible. Is there any predicted "over-saturation" point for Japan with DS sales? DS owners to Japanese population ratio are already over 1:10.
Who knows. By the end of the year it should have passed PS2 and the original model Game Boy, thus becoming the best-selling Japanese game system ever. Since it's not like the population has shot up in the last decade, this will also give it the highest system:population ratio ever, while continuing to have the best weekly sales of a system ever. There's no precedent for a system as successful as DS, so it's hard to say how far it will go.
 

legend166

Member
Who was the guy I made a bet with about the first 52 weeks of the Wii being better than the first 52 weeks of the PS2?

I'm pretty safe right, Josh?
 
Jokeropia said:
Wii sales are incredibly consistent.

Anyway, did Saturn get a boost at some point later on? Because if it sold 5-6 million in Japan LTD then it did better than GC which the PS3 is tracking further behind.

Sega cut the life of the Saturn short.
 
legend166 said:
Who was the guy I made a bet with about the first 52 weeks of the Wii being better than the first 52 weeks of the PS2?

I'm pretty safe right, Josh?
Oh yeah. Based on the Famitsu numbers and the extra half million or so Sony seems to have sold online, PS2 through 52 weeks would be right around 4 million. Actually, 4 million is what the GameCube's total was, so it should pass those two milestones at about the same time... Anyway, that means Wii needs to sell ~1.05 million in the next 25 weeks, an average of 42K a week. It hasn't had a single week that low yet.


EDIT: So if Wii continues with these 75K weeks (and considering Dragon Quest Swords next it might do even better), it would hit PS2's 52 week total around week 41.
 
During the PS2's heyday, what would it normally get in a week in the middle of summer? I totally forgot how things were back then.

I think the GC was around the low 10's. Was the PS2 consistently around the 40's?

Edit - I'm talking about when there were no supply problems.
 

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
Next-Gen Weekly Sales 32

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Since 11/27/07:
32 Total Weeks of Next Gen sales.
26 Total Weeks of post-holiday sales.

Trends & Predictions
Trends are determined by the last 4 weeks of data. Averages are determined by total sales divided by the number of weeks posted above. Outside factors are considered (such as big releases, holidays, etc) when determining current trends and establishing predictions. Previous week's success rate included for accountability.

360 - Established Trend: 2-4k. Next Gen Avg = 6,614. Post Holiday Avg = 3,951.
Wii - Rising Trend: 67-78k. Next Gen Avg = 92,181. Post Holiday Avg = 70,570.
PS3 - Rising Trend: 9-13k. Next Gen Avg = 30,099. Post Holiday Avg = 16,757.

Expectations for 07/09 - 07/15
360 - 2.6k <-- within 1k the previous week
Wii - 74k <-- within 6k the previous week
PS3 - 11k <-- within 3k the previous week

mc-LTD-32.jpg


mc-marketshare-pie-32.jpg


Significant Notes:
&#9679; The Wii has extended its lead to 1,986,614 over the PS3.
&#9679; 90,340 consoles sold this week. Wii had 83.33% of all console sales.
&#9679; The Wii has only sold less than 6:1 better than the PS3 twice since April. (Once in May @ 5.94:1, and this week @5.93:1)
&#9679; The PS3 has been selling better every week for 4 weeks.
&#9679; The Wii is looking to hit 3 million units sold this week.
&#9679; The PS3 should hit its very first million in 3-4 weeks.
&#9679; I'd like to thank donny and sp0rsk for valuable input.
&#9679; I'm starting the 75% market share watch party as of this moment. I'm calling it by November.
 

KINGMOKU

Member
These threads have become a hall of records now. They used to be fun, and entertaining. Now that Japan has just been crushed under the wieght of the DS, and Wii, there are no more arguments, as not even the most hardcore Sony/Microsoft fan can spin these numbers. I miss Tabris, and others who made these threads fun.

I miss the "stupid argument poster", who each and every week would come in and say something so outlandish it was awesome.

Moral has been destroyed, words are lost, and those who would keep up the good fight, are burdened under the wieght of Iwata's heavy gaze.

I miss those days of lore. I miss those days of fun. Goodbye. Goodbye.
 

mj1108

Member
moku said:
These threads have become a hall of records now. They used to be fun, and entertaining. Now that Japan has just been crushed under the wieght of the DS, and Wii, there are no more arguments, as not even the most hardcore Sony/Microsoft fan can spin these numbers. I miss Tabris, and others who made these threads fun.

I miss the "stupid argument poster", who each and every week would come in and say something so outlandish it was awesome.

Hasn't it been a few weeks since we've had a stupid argument poster?? I'll fill in if it would make you feel better....

"Just wait until MGS4!! Everyone who saw the trailer is going to go and buy their PS3 now in preparation for it. It'll be so big that it'll push units even before it's released!"
 
moku said:
These threads have become a hall of records now. They used to be fun, and entertaining. Now that Japan has just been crushed under the wieght of the DS, and Wii, there are no more arguments, as not even the most hardcore Sony/Microsoft fan can spin these numbers. I miss Tabris, and others who made these threads fun.

I miss the "stupid argument poster", who each and every week would come in and say something so outlandish it was awesome.

Moral has been destroyed, words are lost, and those who would keep up the good fight, are burdened under the wieght of Iwata's heavy gaze.

I miss those days of lore. I miss those days of fun. Goodbye. Goodbye.

My time is up and case is won, although I don't agree to being called stupid, so I can't fuel arguments:

"Based on the typical front-line retail price for Wii titles, we estimate that publishers need to sell approximately 300,000 units per title to break even. In contrast, we estimate that breakeven units for front-line Xbox 360 and PS3 titles are in the 600,000-unit range, or at least double the Wii's break even level."

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16727

How could you guys possibly "miss" it when you cry for them to be banned every post they make and it happens? You get what you wish for.
 

Vinnk

Member
vinnksvillagemed.jpg


"Vinnk's Village" Anecdotal Report

Hello guys, I know its E3 week and there are a lot of other threads to read, but I decided to do a Vinnk’s Village report anyway for those that might still be interested.

This week I was asked to look for: Wii, DS lite, Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Dragon Quest Swords and used Trusty Bell bundles. I went Thursday July 12th, 2007:

Jusco
Wii: 1
DS lite: 8 (1 new color)
Zelda PH: 2
Dragon Quest Swords: 9

Youme Town
Wii: Sold out
DS lite: 12 (all old)
Zelda PH: 5
Dragon Quest Swords: 8

Mr. Max
Wii: Sold out
DS lite: 4 (all old)
Zelda PH: Sold Out
Dragon Quest Swords: 1

Book-Net
Wii: Sold out
DS lite: 7 (all old)
Zelda PH: 1
Dragon Quest Swords: 2

Goody
Wii: Sold Out
DS lite: 4 (old colors)
Zelda PH: Sold out
Dragon Quest Swords: None

Best Denki
Wii: 2
DS lite: 12 (all old colors)
Zelda PH: 8
Dragon Quest Swords: 9

Wanpaku
Wii: Sold out
DS lite: 2 (old colors)
Zelda PH: Sold out
Dragon Quest Swords: 23

Famicom Dojo
Wii: 1
DS lite: 2 (old colors)
Zelda PH: 2
Dragon Quest Swords: None

Yamada Denki
Wii: 1
DS lite: 9 (2 new)
Zelda PH: 4
Dragon Quest Swords: 11

TOTALS:
Wii: 4
DS lite: 60 (3 of new colors)
Zelda PH: 22
Dragon Quest Swords: 63

NOTES:

1. Wii is still very supply constrained. Any store that does have them doesn’t have them for long. I think I can copy and paste this statement until after Christmas.

2. The new colors of the DS lite are almost completely sold out. But DS lites in general can be found all over. Any one who wants a DS lite can get one. Anyone who wants a certain color may have to wait.

3. Zelda is back on the shelves. It wasn’t earlier this week so I am not sure what time this restock happened. If it happened a few days ago, the rush for this game is over. It the restock happened today, it is hard to say. I will check back later this week and see if it sells out again or if the supply has met the demand.

4. There were many copies of Dragon Quest: Swords to be found. But I went shopping for my report earlier than I usually do (around 4:00pm) so I didn’t expect the game to be sold out already as it had only been on sale for a few hours. I will stop in again mid week to get a better idea of how it is selling. I did however notice that a large number of people in the checkout line had a copy of this game in their hands. It might be like Zelda where it takes a few days to sell out (not that selling out is assured).

5. Still no used Trusty Bell bundles in my town. Which is odd as Blue Dragon ones started appearing right away. Maybe they didn’t make many TB ones.

6. Dragon Quest: Swords is a great game. I almost never buy RPGs in Japanese because I like to be able to easily read the story (without the help of a dictionary) but I am glad I bought this one. I am having a blast with it.

Previous Reports:

July 5th, 2007
June 28th, 2007
June 21st, 2007
June 14th, 2007
June 7th, 2007
May 30th, 2007
May 24th, 2007
May 17th, 2007
May 10th, 2007
 

apujanata

Member
ComputerNerd said:
During the PS2's heyday, what would it normally get in a week in the middle of summer? I totally forgot how things were back then.

I think the GC was around the low 10's. Was the PS2 consistently around the 40's?

Edit - I'm talking about when there were no supply problems.

By summer, I assume it is May Month :
All M-create data :
Code:
5-May-02	 54,900 
12-May-02	 54,965 
19-May-02	 53,500 
26-May-02	 65,200 

4-May-03	 52,027 
11-May-03	 30,381 
18-May-03	 49,987 
25-May-03	 54,789 

2004 :
May Week 1 (26-02)	52,281 
May Week 2 (03-09)	46,131 
May Week 3 (10-16)	31,300 
May Week 4 (17-23)	30,081 
May Week 5 (24-30)	38,957 

2005 :
May Week 1 (25-01)	 40,471 
May Week 2 (02-08)	 38,629 
May Week 3 (09-15)	 27,503 
May Week 4 (16-22)	 27,370 
May Week 5 (23-29)	 35,143 

2006 :
May Week 1 (01-07)	 32,030 
May Week 2 (08-14)	 21,138 
May Week 3 (15-21)	 20,633 
May Week 4 (22-28)	 19,798
 

Hcoregamer00

The 'H' stands for hentai.
What are the Gyakuten Saiban 4 sales so far and how does it track compared to it's Japanese counterparts?

Also, what are the USA sales in comparison?
 
apujanata said:
By summer, I assume it is May Month :
All M-create data :
Code:
5-May-02	 54,900 
12-May-02	 54,965 
19-May-02	 53,500 
26-May-02	 65,200 

4-May-03	 52,027 
11-May-03	 30,381 
18-May-03	 49,987 
25-May-03	 54,789 

2004 :
May Week 1 (26-02)	52,281 
May Week 2 (03-09)	46,131 
May Week 3 (10-16)	31,300 
May Week 4 (17-23)	30,081 
May Week 5 (24-30)	38,957 

2005 :
May Week 1 (25-01)	 40,471 
May Week 2 (02-08)	 38,629 
May Week 3 (09-15)	 27,503 
May Week 4 (16-22)	 27,370 
May Week 5 (23-29)	 35,143 

2006 :
May Week 1 (01-07)	 32,030 
May Week 2 (08-14)	 21,138 
May Week 3 (15-21)	 20,633 
May Week 4 (22-28)	 19,798
supply constraints?
 

KINGMOKU

Member
apujanata said:
By summer, I assume it is May Month :
All M-create data :
Code:
5-May-02	 54,900 
12-May-02	 54,965 
19-May-02	 53,500 
26-May-02	 65,200 

4-May-03	 52,027 
11-May-03	 30,381 
18-May-03	 49,987 
25-May-03	 54,789 

2004 :
May Week 1 (26-02)	52,281 
May Week 2 (03-09)	46,131 
May Week 3 (10-16)	31,300 
May Week 4 (17-23)	30,081 
May Week 5 (24-30)	38,957 

2005 :
May Week 1 (25-01)	 40,471 
May Week 2 (02-08)	 38,629 
May Week 3 (09-15)	 27,503 
May Week 4 (16-22)	 27,370 
May Week 5 (23-29)	 35,143 

2006 :
May Week 1 (01-07)	 32,030 
May Week 2 (08-14)	 21,138 
May Week 3 (15-21)	 20,633 
May Week 4 (22-28)	 19,798
When you think about what the PS2 did in Japan, and what the Wii is doing now, it really does just boggle the mind.

When will the madness end?
 
I'm starting to wonder if the PS3's sales really have leveled out. Will the pick-up continue? To what extent?

I got a C in statistics so I really have no idea.
 

Hcoregamer00

The 'H' stands for hentai.
Aristotlekh said:
I'm starting to wonder if the PS3's sales really have leveled out. Will the pick-up continue? To what extent?

I got a C in statistics so I really have no idea.

LOL, C is passing which means you should have an idea of what you are talking about :lol
 
apujanata said:
By summer, I assume it is May Month :
All M-create data :
Code:
5-May-02	 54,900 
12-May-02	 54,965 
19-May-02	 53,500 
26-May-02	 65,200 

4-May-03	 52,027 
11-May-03	 30,381 
18-May-03	 49,987 
25-May-03	 54,789 

2004 :
May Week 1 (26-02)	52,281 
May Week 2 (03-09)	46,131 
May Week 3 (10-16)	31,300 
May Week 4 (17-23)	30,081 
May Week 5 (24-30)	38,957 

2005 :
May Week 1 (25-01)	 40,471 
May Week 2 (02-08)	 38,629 
May Week 3 (09-15)	 27,503 
May Week 4 (16-22)	 27,370 
May Week 5 (23-29)	 35,143 

2006 :
May Week 1 (01-07)	 32,030 
May Week 2 (08-14)	 21,138 
May Week 3 (15-21)	 20,633 
May Week 4 (22-28)	 19,798

Thanks! This is very useful data.
 
moku said:
These threads have become a hall of records now. They used to be fun, and entertaining. Now that Japan has just been crushed under the wieght of the DS, and Wii, there are no more arguments, as not even the most hardcore Sony/Microsoft fan can spin these numbers. I miss Tabris, and others who made these threads fun.

I miss the "stupid argument poster", who each and every week would come in and say something so outlandish it was awesome.

Morale has been destroyed, words are lost, and those who would keep up the good fight, are burdened under the wieght of Iwata's heavy gaze.

I miss those days of lore. I miss those days of fun. Goodbye. Goodbye.
Not all is lost. Perhaps we can lure tjhooker to post in these threads. Now there's a fanboy who has what it takes to become this generation's Gahiggidy.
 

apujanata

Member
3. Zelda is back on the shelves. It wasn’t earlier this week so I am not sure what time this restock happened. If it happened a few days ago, the rush for this game is over. It the restock happened today, it is hard to say. I will check back later this week and see if it sells out again or if the supply has met the demand.

4. There were many copies of Dragon Quest: Swords to be found. But I went shopping for my report earlier than I usually do (around 4:00pm) so I didn’t expect the game to be sold out already as it had only been on sale for a few hours. I will stop in again mid week to get a better idea of how it is selling. I did however notice that a large number of people in the checkout line had a copy of this game in their hands. It might be like Zelda where it takes a few days to sell out (not that selling out is assured).

5. Still no used Trusty Bell bundles in my town. Which is odd as Blue Dragon ones started appearing right away. Maybe they didn’t make many TB ones.

6. Dragon Quest: Swords is a great game. I almost never buy RPGs in Japanese because I like to be able to easily read the story (without the help of a dictionary) but I am glad I bought this one. I am having a blast with it.

You can try asking Hiro from Famicom Dojo when he get the restock ? (and assume that other shop got the restock the same day as Hiro).

If you can check back later for DQ:S and Zelda:pH, it will be really appreciated. How earlier you did the checkout ? Around Noon, Japan time today (while you go out and buy DQ:S ?) ?

I noticed that you might not bought the game from Famicom Dojo, since that shop have no stock. Am I correct ?

I believe that Famicom Dojo might have a difficult life doing business in the future, since their main business is doing Famicom / Super Famicom used game sales, at the price point of 2000 Yen. Nowadays, people can download F/SF VC game on Wii for more or less the same price, or even cheaper (probably only 500 Yen for F, 800 Yen for SF). What do you think about this ?
 

HylianTom

Banned
moku said:
These threads have become a hall of records now. They used to be fun, and entertaining. Now that Japan has just been crushed under the wieght of the DS, and Wii, there are no more arguments, as not even the most hardcore Sony/Microsoft fan can spin these numbers. I miss Tabris, and others who made these threads fun.

I miss the "stupid argument poster", who each and every week would come in and say something so outlandish it was awesome.

Moral has been destroyed, words are lost, and those who would keep up the good fight, are burdened under the wieght of Iwata's heavy gaze.

I miss those days of lore. I miss those days of fun. Goodbye. Goodbye.

They can't argue against cold, hard numbers and "facts." So they've moved-on to topics where their feelings seem to hold more value. It's very Colbertesque, methinks.

Nintendo abandoning traditional gamers, hardcore game development being threatened by casual games development, pretty much any mainstream journalism covering the Wii.. these threads are fertile for those special types of posts that you're missing. :D
 

apujanata

Member
titiklabingapat said:
supply constraints?

I am not sure whether PS2 is supply constrained on May 2002 or not, but I am pretty sure (99% confidence) that PS2 was not supply constrained in 2003 and after. Maybe other people can comment on it ?


I'm starting to wonder if the PS3's sales really have leveled out. Will the pick-up continue? To what extent?

I believe, and I hope, that PS3 should be able to get to 20K range and maintain it in 2007 and beyond. Especially after the price drop to 30K Yen range. I don't want Nintendo to get 70%+ market share for both home and portable market. It might cause Nintendo to get cocky again (and gamers will suffer from it).

What are the Gyakuten Saiban 4 sales so far and how does it track compared to it's Japanese counterparts?

Also, what are the USA sales in comparison?

I believe there was a post in last week's m-create that point out URL of Jonnyram's topic that discuss all Gyakuten Saiban sales. You should look it up. :D

They used to be fun, and entertaining. Now that Japan has just been crushed under the wieght of the DS, and Wii, there are no more arguments, as not even the most hardcore Sony/Microsoft fan can spin these numbers. I miss Tabris, and others who made these threads fun.

To tell you the truth, I don't find all those bickering fun. So, I like the current situation better. I do hope for more variation, but not in the sense of 200+ topics of people debating things that shoud never be debated (and thereby lowering the IQ of all person involved).
 

Vinnk

Member
apujanata said:
You can try asking Hiro from Famicom Dojo when he get the restock ? (and assume that other shop got the restock the same day as Hiro).

If you can check back later for DQ:S and Zelda:pH, it will be really appreciated. How earlier you did the checkout ? Around Noon, Japan time today (while you go out and buy DQ:S ?) ?

I noticed that you might not bought the game from Famicom Dojo, since that shop have no stock. Am I correct ?

I believe that Famicom Dojo might have a difficult life doing business in the future, since their main business is doing Famicom / Super Famicom used game sales, at the price point of 2000 Yen. Nowadays, people can download F/SF VC game on Wii for more or less the same price, or even cheaper (probably only 500 Yen for F, 800 Yen for SF). What do you think about this ?

I'll ask him next time I see him. He wasn't there yesterday.

I bought my copy about 5:00pm from Wanpaku and yeah, I will check the suppy situation throughout the week.

Famicom Dojo sells to a very specific demographic. Hardcore gamers who collect and play with the original hardware and older adults who don't know the first thong about this new-fangled Wi-Fi internet.

But he does see the writing on the wall and is increasing his DS and Wii selection at the store. he also sells a lot of PS2 games and the used market for those is still quite large.
 
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