Frankfurter
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justchris said:
Shouldn't Thursday - Sunday be four days of sales?
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Media Create Sales: 7/23 - 7/29
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Shouldn't Thursday - Sunday be four days of sales?
DefectiveReject
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jercruz said:
This is the first time in over a year that the DS has less than 15 titles in the top 30. Not that it matters though.
And, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually agree with LanceStern regarding IAWW's sales. How much did you guys really expect that game to sell? A new IP with a VERY special art style.
And, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually agree with LanceStern regarding IAWW's sales. How much did you guys really expect that game to sell? A new IP with a VERY special art style.
Magicpaint
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Frillen said:
The game appeared to be heavily promoted by square-enix and they apparently even expected quite a bit considering shipment numbers. Most of GAF seemed to predict less though, but we're not really going by GAF's expectations here. S-E expected big things for the games, but with the low sell through ratio and the early discounts -- it's hard to consider it a success. It's eerily reminiscent of what happened to Tales of the Tempest, actually.
perfectchaos007
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I saw what vgcrap showed for PS3 sales as well. over 25k sales would definately be a Golfbump. But will those sales stay around next week? Either way PS3 is picking up steam. NOT statistical noise.
test_account
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Ah.. finally an interesting week 
I wonder why 1. and 2. was so much higher in Famitsu.
I wonder why 1. and 2. was so much higher in Famitsu.Rancid Mildew
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I don't think this Golf bump will be too substantial. If it really sold 150K on day one, the drop off was really rapid.
perfectchaos007 said:
No, it's hard for games on the PS3 to have decent legs 'cause of the low install base. Which means that Minna no Golf will most likely have mediocre legs and drop like a huge rock, just like Sigma, Virtua Figter 5, Gundam Musou etc.
This directly result into the fact that the PS3 will fall hard next week, probably around 20k, then the week after down to sub 13k.
Rancid Mildew
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Roders5 said:
I'm just going by that thread that was celebrating the day one sales of the golf game. Was there a correction issued?
TheKingsCrown
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Wait, do we even know what IAWW shipped?
Rancid Mildew
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C.T. said:
Oh nevermind. I had Famitsu's 176K numbers in mind.
Stumpokapow
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Rancid Mildew said:
No correction was issued because the site that originally reported it didn't say anything about the game selling 150k in one day; only sites using Babelfish or Google Translation to translate the original report thought this... and the fact that the story was wrong was mentioned about two dozen times in the original thread.
the thoroughbred
Member
Is this the lowest Animal Crossing has ever gone.
Notice Brain Age, English training, they're all really low. The only one maintaining its position is Mario Kart. I bet they'll be back up again. Probably do aaround 50k during Holiday week.
Notice Brain Age, English training, they're all really low. The only one maintaining its position is Mario Kart. I bet they'll be back up again. Probably do aaround 50k during Holiday week.
the thoroughbred
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Can someone post that gif of Nintendo crew in a car, all singing and dancing. I want to show it to someone, but have no clue where I saw it.
Quick please, or I'll lose his interest.
Thanks in advance.
Quick please, or I'll lose his interest.
Thanks in advance.
I wouldn't call It's A Wonderful World a bomb just yet. You can't expect the majority of a new IPs market success to be front-loaded... especially when taking into consideration the performance of many of Nintendo's touch generations games.
Additionally, DQS seems to have been received very well critically. Do we have an idea of its availability? It may be in limited supply.
Additionally, DQS seems to have been received very well critically. Do we have an idea of its availability? It may be in limited supply.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
VerTiGo said:
So in your opinion, ethelred's list of eight or nine other Square IPs showing that all of them except Threads of Fate and Live-a-Live debuted substantially better than IAWW is bunkum because Brain Age has long legs?
Isn't it probably better to compare IAWW to previous Square IPs rather than Nintendo games?
Supposition:
What if instead of a big release on a losing system "bump"ing up sales for the system, it is actually siphoning off future sales by getting people to buy the system earlier than they had planned. The net result of that would be no additional sales overall.
PS3 (actual):
Let's say that Gundam Musou wasn't released and sales steadily decreased from Feb 19-25 (~19K) to Jul 9-15 (~13K).
PS3 (hypothetical):
The total is actually higher for the PS3 if it could have maintained a steady rate of decline instead of having the Gundabump. If this supposition holds true, we'll see a Minna no Golf 5 bump followed by sub-10K weeks again a couple of months later. If this supposition is correct and applied last generation in Japan, GameCube fans had nothing but false hope whenever a new "big" game would temporarily boost hardware sales followed by a decline.
In short if this is correct, "big" releases help owners of a losing system feel better for a while, but do nothing to help the overall sales of a system improve.
What if instead of a big release on a losing system "bump"ing up sales for the system, it is actually siphoning off future sales by getting people to buy the system earlier than they had planned. The net result of that would be no additional sales overall.
PS3 (actual):
Code:
19 Feb - 25 Feb 19,315
[b]26 Feb - 4 Mar 44,000 <- Gundabump[/b]
5 Mar - 11 Mar 32,115
12 Mar - 18 Mar 21,635
19 Mar - 25 Mar 20,459
26 Mar - 1 Apr 16,889
2 Apr - 8 Apr 14,520
9 Apr - 15 Apr 11,948
16 Apr - 22 Apr 11,000
23 Apr - 29 Apr 12,791
30 Apr - 6 May 12,974
7 May - 13 May 8,839
14 May - 20 May 8,659
21 May - 27 May 9,627
28 May - 3 Jun 8,998
4 Jun - 10 Jun 8,776
11 Jun - 17 Jun 9,481
18 Jun - 24 Jun 9,581
25 Jun - 1 Jul 11,914
2 Jul - 8 Jul 12,691
9 Jul - 15 Jul 13,493
[b]Total: 319,705[/b]Let's say that Gundam Musou wasn't released and sales steadily decreased from Feb 19-25 (~19K) to Jul 9-15 (~13K).
PS3 (hypothetical):
Code:
19 Feb - 25 Feb 19,000
[b]26 Feb - 4 Mar 18,700 <- No bump, but a steady decrease[/b]
5 Mar - 11 Mar 18,400
12 Mar - 18 Mar 18,100
19 Mar - 25 Mar 17,800
26 Mar - 1 Apr 17,500
2 Apr - 8 Apr 17,200
9 Apr - 15 Apr 16,900
16 Apr - 22 Apr 16,600
23 Apr - 29 Apr 16,300
30 Apr - 6 May 16,000
7 May - 13 May 15,700
14 May - 20 May 15,400
21 May - 27 May 15,100
28 May - 3 Jun 14,800
4 Jun - 10 Jun 14,500
11 Jun - 17 Jun 14,200
18 Jun - 24 Jun 13,900
25 Jun - 1 Jul 13,600
2 Jul - 8 Jul 13,300
9 Jul - 15 Jul 13,000
[b]Total: 336,000[/b]The total is actually higher for the PS3 if it could have maintained a steady rate of decline instead of having the Gundabump. If this supposition holds true, we'll see a Minna no Golf 5 bump followed by sub-10K weeks again a couple of months later. If this supposition is correct and applied last generation in Japan, GameCube fans had nothing but false hope whenever a new "big" game would temporarily boost hardware sales followed by a decline.
In short if this is correct, "big" releases help owners of a losing system feel better for a while, but do nothing to help the overall sales of a system improve.
Stumpokapow said:
No. I'm saying that success is not guaranteed off the bat. If IAWW is a good and unique enough game, word of mouth could indeed prolong the game's sales over a long period of time. It's also not something that seems like it was designed for the general Square Enix fanbase.
Stumpokapow
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donny2112 said:
I do think there's a kernel of truth to this in the sense that if I'm planning to buy a system for five big upcoming games, and I choose to buy it when the first of those five debuts, it adds a sale to that week and subtracts it from a hypothetical future week when I would be buying it.
But there's also a phenomenon you ignore--in Japan, major releases are normally hallmarked by bumps in part because many gamers buy a console with a major release, and then trade the console back after finishing the game. I'd say at least a third-a half of the Blue Dragon-driven X360 console sales have been traded back.
And I'd say that this is more likely to happen for the losing consoles, beause on a system like the DS where there's a wide array of perceived compelling software, the value-loss on the trade is going to be higher than on a system like the 360 when people only want Blue Dragon or on the PS3 when people only want Gundam/MinGol.
(This is hugely important when talking about games that sell out because the sales of used games and consoles from the tradeback process directly steals from the potential sales of new games and consoles)
Stumpokapow said:
I'd love to know where you get the assumption that consoles have been traded back. I can't believe this, especially when taking into consideration that there have been quite a few Xbox 360 releases that made some pretty decent debuts on the platform, and I don't think 40,000 Japanese consumers went out of their way to buy an Xbox 360 for Oblivion when reported hardware sales for that X360 that week are no more than 4,000.
MaddenNFL64
Member
Bad week for Dewy to release. Not just against Mario Party 8 & MnG 5, but every platform had at least one game with good sales. Damn.
Remember that people buy the used consoles, not just sell them. If there is indeed a bump associated with a major title followed by the insertion of a large number of consoles into the used market, it could cause the numbers of new consoles sold to be suppressed over subsequent weeks. Not every person who buys a used console would have bought a new one if the used one wasn't available, but every person who does buy a used console has no need to buy a new one, so it should be seen as replacing a new sale that might occur.
Buffy4ever
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DefectiveReject said:
I love that cat picture!
VultureDude
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What lesson will Konami take from Dewy?
a) not to make new IPs for the Wii
b) that they misread the demographic for the system
c) to avoid the Wii
d) other
a) not to make new IPs for the Wii
b) that they misread the demographic for the system
c) to avoid the Wii
d) other
Mithos Yggdrasill
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Haunted One said:
Again, I cannot see really why a 20% attach rate is bad. Ok, it's not the 80-85% of Zelda in the USA (btw, best attach rate ever for a non-packed game for the launch?), but it could have legs. What is bad, is that it seems that the hardware has been boosted less then Gundam. And this is bad for the second biggest IP of Sony in Japan.