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[ethelred]

I have no interest in having a quote - a - thon with you again ethelred. We always seem to be on the opposite side of the argument.

It's such a shame. You could try being right for a change? You might find it refreshing, like a dip in a cool river in the midst of the sweltering summer heat.

IAWW is a success to me, it's decent to others, it's good to others, and it's bad to you and others.

Yyyyyyeeeeaaaaah, that's really not how things work. It's a failure compared to previous Square Enix games but more importantly it's a failure in that the market has rejected it; it's bombed to the extent that its price is being slashed to clear out stock and it'll never get a second shipment.

Regardless of how this feels in that tingly place deep down inside your bowels, that does not make it a success.

These new franchises from SE that you show me in the chart are on the Playstation; completely different new franchises, on a completely different console with a completely different userbase in a completely different market.

Then I think it'd be best if Square Enix stuck with the PlayStation from now on.

 

[Gaborn]

It's very strange. They seemed to have increased shipments for DQS, but not for MP8.

Or it could be the Wii's were increased in shipment, but they just didn't sell...

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nah

That would seem rather unlikely given all the previous data of constant sell outs EVERYWHERE wouldn't it? :lol

 

[rakka]

Would it have done better on the PSP?

 

[SouthernDragon]

That said, what should I look for this week?

The amount of typhoons, Disaster: Day of Crisis, and God Hand copies there are out there.

 

[Mike Works]

was mario party expected to outsell hot shots?

 

[rakka]

Yes, and also from the pre-order numbers.

 

[cvxfreak]

was mario party expected to outsell hot shots?

Yes.

 

[titiklabingapat]

yeah same here. Lafayette got smacked by hurricane Lili in 2002 and hurricane Katrina (THAT hurricane) battered N.O. (saw the damage again firsthand last weekend. still much of it is destroyed and trying to rebuild). also another tropical disturbance has just passed the antilles/leeward islands in the caribbean and begun its slow trek towards the gulf. Its possible that this might become a strong TS or hurricane so just a heads up.

and to keep this thread relevant does anyone have any idea why the wii numbers seem so low for a big software release week?

Pussies,. When I was growing down in Southeast Asia, I experienced at least 3-4 typhoons each year

 

[.dmc]

IAWW is awesome, and price drops or not, I feel and see success all over it. I reiterate again: new IP, new market, and it debuts at #4 with 80k sales for its first week. I'm happy, and until SE puts out a press release saying they are disappointed, it's going to make a profit at the same time.

SE spent a lot of money promoting this game + they only sold 40% of their shipment, the limited edition DS's are still sitting in stores + they're already marking down the price of the game. From that point of view, it's a disappointment. Not a bomba, but below expectations all the same.

 

[Sapapayo]

Sorry for asking that one more time in a MC thread but, what are the next big titles for wii and ps3 in japan before october ?

 

[ethelred]

SE spent a lot of money promoting this game + they only sold 40% of their shipment, the limited edition DS's are still sitting in stores + they're already marking down the price of the game. From that point of view, it's a disappointment. Not a bomba, but below expectations all the same.

But wait it sold more than "Learning Japanese European History of the World Part 1" and BY GOD you could fill a stadium with eighty THOUSAND FISH there's no way this could be anything but a catatrophic success.

 

[Vinnk]

was mario party expected to outsell hot shots?

A few months ago, before the sub 10,000 sales numbers for PS3 hit. A lot of people expected it to be a savior for the system and definately hit number one. But as the weeks went on, most people changed their minds.

Still I am sure there are a lot of shocked fanboys out there right now.

 

[LanceStern]

It's such a shame. You could try being right for a change? You might find it refreshing, like a dip in a cool river in the midst of the sweltering summer heat.

Nothing I say will change your mind in a debate, it's like a born agreement to disagree ever since 300k started.

So I acknowledge that comment is just an attempt to start a longer argument. It won't change my mind of the great sales of IAWW. "Below expectation" =/= "Not a success"... at least in sales/profits wise.

Strange how I've switched siides to be saying that quote...

 

[sphinx]

SE spent a lot of money promoting this game + they only sold 40% of their shipment, the limited edition DS's are still sitting in stores + they're already marking down the price of the game. From that point of view, it's a disappointment. Not a bomba, but below expectations all the same.

I think IAWW sold less than expected because there were too many newly released games competing for people's Yens. Just in the Top 10 we have like 7 new games. something's gotta give.

 

[rikitikitik]

Pussies,. When I was growing down in Southeast Asia, I experienced at least 3-4 typhoons each year

We need one of those here right now. The rain at least, the winds we can do without.

It's friggin August and not a single one made landfall in the country anywhere.

 

[Olaeh]

It's a shame Dewy and GGXX:AC (Wii) didn't make it up there. I can understand GG not making it since it's been out for PS2 for awhile now, but poor Dewy Hopefully it will sell better in other regions, though it seems doubtful with the wave of games this holiday.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

But wait it sold more than "Learning Japanese European History of the World Part 1" and BY GOD you could fill a stadium with eighty THOUSAND FISH there's no way this could be anything but a catatrophic success.

IF YOU CAN HEAR ME ETHEL, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU WHEN YOU SPEAK SPANISH

 

[Mr. Pointy]

I hope IAWW has legs. It'd be nice if Square Enix were happy enough with the sales to start experimenting again. I miss PS1-era Square. Enix are pretty much doing what ever they want.

 

[kisakiproject]

Go Oblivion, looks like DQS will probably not make 500k. HD gaming come back, lol.

 

[Lightning]

I actually think that Hot Shots Golf done quite well. It was never going to out sell MP8 but to sell 1/5 of the PS3 userbase is quite impressive, imo.

btw, which numbers are more accurate: Famitzu or Media Create? Because they seem to differ by quite a bit each week. :lol

 

[Saitou]

IF YOU CAN HEAR ME ETHEL, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU WHEN YOU SPEAK SPANISH

 

[cvxfreak]

I hereby banish Lance from any and all future MC threads created by myself!

Spoiler

Sorry Cheesemeister, but you gotta die for a good cause!

 

[apujanata]

I actually think that Hot Shots Golf done quite well. It was never going to out sell MP8 but to sell 1/5 of the PS3 userbase is quite impressive, imo.

btw, which numbers are more accurate: Famitzu or Media Create? Because they seem to differ by quite a bit each week. :lol

Well, I myself predicted that MP8 will sell better than MNG5, but no one are SURE that MNG5 will sell less than MP8. Most believe that it is more probable that MP8 will have better sales than MNG5, but no one is SURE (as in 100% confident) MNG5 will sell less than MP8. Well, maybe only Nintendo fanatics are sure 100%.

 

[LanceStern]

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Hey Saitou!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6735553&postcount=244

I hereby banish Lance from MC threads created by myself

I suppose I could just lurk then ...

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Yeah but... Why not?

It's not 300K.

It's insane to say 77k in it's first week is bad, but then turn around and say a game like "Japanese World History B Learning" or "Harvest Moon Wii" topping their LTDs at around 50k and whatnot a success. Not to mention backwards.

It's a success. Hands down

*rubs eyes* Whaaaaa?

Sadly, I don't think it will. The used copies have started appearing. This game could have been so much bigger..

DQS and IAWW show from both sides how a company can get screwed by misjudging early demand.

Can anybody explain WHY MP8 sold better than 7? I have some ideas.

Other than the obvious that Wii is hot, and it brings something new to the series in waggle? *shrug*

 

[Paws of Fury]

Is taiko drum master good? I am waiting for another good rhythm game after Ouendan 2.

It is! If you play it on PS2 with the drum controller.

Too bad it sux royal ass on DS! Poor music quality, no feeling what-so-evvah and lousy touch controlling. You can play with the buttons as well, like on PSP, but it just doesnt work with Taiko.

 

[AlphaSnake]

HSG5 was on store shelves on the 27th, right (shipped 26th)? If so, the chart only tracked 2 days of its sales. It'll probably still be in the top 10 next week.

 

[Kevtones]

Dewy

 

[DefectiveReject]

I place a curse on this thread that stops Jimbo from entering and turning it into a STUPID 360 will sell 1m consoles in the next 12yrs in Japan should David Beckham play for than 12mins for LA galaxy on seven occasion in the next Trimesta

 

[OokieSpookie]

I actually think that Hot Shots Golf done quite well. It was never going to out sell MP8 but to sell 1/5 of the PS3 userbase is quite impressive, imo.

btw, which numbers are more accurate: Famitzu or Media Create? Because they seem to differ by quite a bit each week. :lol

Logic like that or positive thoughts are not allowed in these threads, you will stop this treachery now!

 

[Jirotrom]

I think you meant Chris tucker.

Dewy

I have no clue as to why this bombed.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

So not that Dewy died a painful death... no more kiddie games on Wii?

Will the devs try harder?

 

[Jammy]

Does anybody have the numbers for Taiko Drum Master Portable for PSP in its debut week and LTD?

 

[Jirotrom]

Dewy actually looked really good, and it was a situation in which the dev did try.

 

[LanceStern]

Dewy actually looked really good, and it was a situation in which the dev did try.

New IP
Huge Environments
Fresh Wii Remote Controls
Bump and normal mapping

Konami tried very hard... the first clue being how gorgeous the game looked. When a developer takes the time to make a nice-looking Wii game, you can assume they are TRYING to make it a worthy title.

But that just happens sometimes. Hopefully not a trend

I have no clue as to why [Dewy] bombed

It just didn't ahve the market for it. It was too kidde for the kids, too kiddie for the casual gamers that like their image, too kiddie for the casual gamers that don't care about their image but just weren't interested in that type of game.

It had no-one to sell to. Especially in the week Mario party, Taiko, Gundam, Minna no Golf, Oblivion etc. came out.

Konami trained their young son up for 3 years as a fierce warrior, and sent him out a month later to fight an army of bloodthirsty, flesh-hungry half-wolve half-men monster games.

 

[Hero of Canton]

Dewy actually looked really good, and it was a situation in which the dev did try.

It is really good, and Konami definitely did try. Apart from the stupid idea of releasing it this week, alongside a Gundam game and Mario Party 8 coming out for the same console. Fingers crossed that word-of-mouth might give it a bump, but considering so few have bought it in the first place, that's doubtful.

Massive shame, as it's easily one of the top 3 third-party games on Wii.

 

[Lobster]

Woo Go Mario Party. Gundam sales were less then I though..DQ is still going strong.

 

[Berserker]

6 Wii games in the top 20.

I think thats a new high.

 

[DefectiveReject]

New IP
Huge Environments
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Isn't it meant to just be small levels of between 5 and 12mins if that? And not many of them either??

 

[Stop It]

01. [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 265,000 / NEW
02. [PS3] Hot Shots Golf 5 (Sony) - 152,000 / NEW
03. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS (Bandai-Namco) - 94,000 / NEW
04. [NDS] It's a Wonderful World (Square-Enix) - 77,000 / NEW
05. [WII] Mobile Suit Gundam 0079 (Bandai-Namco) - 46,000 / NEW
06. [PSP] Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (Capcom) - 45,000 / NEW
07. [360] The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Spike) - 40,000 / NEW
08. [NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Nintendo) - 37,000 / 668,000
09. [PS2] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 14 (Konami) - 34,000 / 187,000
10. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 32,000 / 1,943,000

11. [WII] Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Square-Enix)

NDS - 14
PS2 - 6
WII - 6
PS3 - 2
PSP - 1
360 - 1

So Minna No Golf either sold 0 copies after its first day or somebody miscounted, either way 150k first day sales is Gundabump style sales, I'll now be suprised if 50k PS3s have shifted (My original expectations), and it'll barely reach 500k LTD, PS3 dommed in 2007, destruction complete.

MP8 selling well on first week, and it'll have some legs (3 weeks of decent sales), best selling MP game too, it'll achieve, Nice to see Oblivion appreciated, and PH hanging on, also, stay up there DQ:s pwease!!

 

[Rock_Man]

And look: All five current systems are represented in the Top 10.

Only thing missing is GBA. Bless its soul

PS2, PSP, PS3, DS, WII, 360.
Six?

 

[ShockingAlberto]

IAWW didn't do very well, but I'm hoping it's one of those games that doesn't do well but they give another shot, anyway.

 

[legend166]

Yeah, don't know where the huge environments thing came from.

But anyway, it looks like the developers of Dewy tried, but the advertisers did not.

 

[linsivvi]

It is! If you play it on PS2 with the drum controller.

Too bad it sux royal ass on DS! Poor music quality, no feeling what-so-evvah and lousy touch controlling. You can play with the buttons as well, like on PSP, but it just doesnt work with Taiko.

The PS2 drum controller sucks. The arcade is the only way to go. That said, I'd rather use button controls than the PS2 drum controller or the touch screen control.

 

[LanceStern]

Yeah, don't know where the huge environments thing came from.

But anyway, it looks like the developers of Dewy tried, but the advertisers did not.

All the gameplay videogs I see is huge environments with a lot of stuff going onscreen.

Perhaps it's the sheer small size of Dewy that mixes this up for me... my mistake.

And yes it is 6

 

[icecream]

Damn, why doesn't it happen to games I want to lower in price like Sakura Taisen V?

You can probably find that pretty cheap now, used.

Disappointed at IAWW. Perhaps it was the way S-E marketed it, since I recall it being said they were going through more mainstream channels with their advertisements. No excuses though. If it's something from S-E, it's expected to do very well. Hopefully this will push up the timetable for an English release to supplement sales.

Oblivion is surprising, and so is Minna no Golf... in other ways.

 

[laserbeam]

So Minna No Golf either sold 0 copies after its first day or somebody miscounted, either way 150k first day sales is Gundabump style sales, I'll now be suprised if 50k PS3s have shifted (My original expectations), and it'll barely reach 500k LTD, PS3 dommed in 2007, destruction complete.

MP8 selling well on first week, and it'll have some legs (3 weeks of decent sales), best selling MP game too, it'll achieve, Nice to see Oblivion appreciated, and PH hanging on, also, stay up there DQ:s pwease!!

150K 1st day was Sony fansites being quick to post mistranslated Information. The actual info was some stores were reporting healthy sales at their stores. Fans took it as Stores selling out all across japan.

I still honestly expect the game to reach 600-800K units sold Lifetime. though how fast a sequel comes out could hamper long term sales

 

[linsivvi]

I think IAWW sold less than expected because there were too many newly released games competing for people's Yens. Just in the Top 10 we have like 7 new games. something's gotta give.

Finally a voice of reason. Not everyone are going to be able to afford multiple games on the same week. The top 2 alone ate up 400K+ sales already.

 

[Brofist]

I'm personally hoping for Biohazard 5 Gaiden on the Wii.

man I know these MC topics give many a free pass at troll posts, but you are pretty damn annoying

 

[Defuser]

HSG5 was on store shelves on the 27th, right (shipped 26th)? If so, the chart only tracked 2 days of its sales. It'll probably still be in the top 10 next week.

doh,why did I think of that....