-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Media Create Sales 7/9 - 7/15
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
- Start date
:lolParl said:
Speaking of rising, Nintendo moves up to 9th as its shares keep rising:
http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/070720/41781_id.html?.v=1
titiklabingapat
Member
ksamedi said:
Oops, sorry about that. Here it is:
http://translate.google.com/transla...refox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=N0s
Can anyone translate???? Please?? *puppy eyes*
ziran said:
Wow, the market sees Nintendo as bigger than a pharma company, a tobacco company and a steel company. Goddamit. I know it will rise even further(The Wii engine is just revving up) but I'm too poor to invest in the ADRs ;_;
Gaf should have some sort of collective money pool and invest in our company of choice.
Cheesemeister
Member
From Sinobi...
EDIT: Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 14 for PS2/Wii sold 100,000 copies on its first day with a PS2:Wii ratio of 8:2. Compared with LTDs for previous entries in the series on PS2...
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 10 = 510k
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 11 = 440k
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 = 430k
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 13 = 330k
The GameCube version of 12 sold 80k. DS titles Mushi King Super Collection and Naruto: Shippuuden were off to a slow start with sales of only 20k. However, Detective Jinguuji Saburou (DS) is selling out with unexpectedly strong first day sales of 10k. The Best Price version of Ultraman Fighting Evolution 3 (PS2) sold through 30% of its 5000 unit shipment. The Sengoku Basara Double-Pack (PS2) that included a DVD sold a weak 1000 units.
A Hudson rep wrote a letter saying that Momotarou Dentetsu 16 for the Wii will be the last in the series, citing unpredictable sales making the choosing of shipment numbers unfeasible.
EDIT: Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 14 for PS2/Wii sold 100,000 copies on its first day with a PS2:Wii ratio of 8:2. Compared with LTDs for previous entries in the series on PS2...
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 10 = 510k
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 11 = 440k
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 12 = 430k
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 13 = 330k
The GameCube version of 12 sold 80k. DS titles Mushi King Super Collection and Naruto: Shippuuden were off to a slow start with sales of only 20k. However, Detective Jinguuji Saburou (DS) is selling out with unexpectedly strong first day sales of 10k. The Best Price version of Ultraman Fighting Evolution 3 (PS2) sold through 30% of its 5000 unit shipment. The Sengoku Basara Double-Pack (PS2) that included a DVD sold a weak 1000 units.
A Hudson rep wrote a letter saying that Momotarou Dentetsu 16 for the Wii will be the last in the series, citing unpredictable sales making the choosing of shipment numbers unfeasible.
Cheesemeister
Member
schuelma said:
Shoot, sorry. Edited. PS2 version = 80k, Wii version = 20k.
Cygnus X-1
Member
ziran said:Wasn't aware of this, I suppose it was inevitable given what's been happening:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/akihabara/
Sony is really skyrocket.
Leise, Kraftvoll, Mitsubishi.
titiklabingapat
Member
That's actually pretty poor. The Ps2 version's sales is pretty poor compared to the others as well.
Cygnus X-1
Member
ksamedi said:
Yeah, simply it is not possible. An expansion would be needed, because market capitalisation is not enough to reach Mitsubishi and Toyota. By the way, where is Mazda ?
plagiarize
Banned
i'm still shocked every time i see how close the DS has gotten to the ps2.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
I thought LanceStern was joking with the percentage-adding, but he just keeps on truckin' on page 13.
LanceStern
Banned
AdmiralViscen said:
I was joking, and I don't think I added percentages on page 13, but posted as Deku asked me.
For restatement, the DS has quite a task on its hands:
Results/Analysis
Current NDS 2007 YTD: 4,252,375
Current NDS 2006 YTD: 3,849,643 (Same period)
A. The Nintendo DS has beaten both it's Q2 2006 and Q2 2005 YTD by ~ 100k and 2.5 million respectably
- The DSs 2007 YTD by Week 22 is just shy of 130,000 units. It is guaranteed to beat it's 06 (Wk. 26) YTD AT LEAST two weeks earlier by Week 24
B. For the Nintendo DS to beat it's 2006 YTD by the end of Q3 (Week 39 2006: 5,790,402), it would have to sell an average of 140,000 units each week for the next 11 weeks
- The DS, before the release of new colors was averaging 105k - 120k each week, meaning for the first time this year, the DS may not beat its 2006 YTD
- Some key releases and perhaps a price drop however, may just propel it WELL above 140,000, which could drastically lower the average it needs to beat Q3 2007
C. The Nintendo DS in Q3 2006 (Week 27 - Week 39) sold 2.24 million units; For the DS in Q3 2007 to beat it, it would have to sell an average of 179,000 units each week for 11 weeks
- That might just be impossible at the DS's current level. But it's so close considering how absolutely insane DS 2006 was selling.
Cheesemeister
Member
pswii60 said:
For 31,980 yen?! What a rip-off! MSRP is 25,000 yen.
FitzOfRage
Member
Verve said:
Ford doesn't own a majority share of the company. They're not on there because they're relatively small from a market cap standpoint.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=7261:JP
They're a little over $8 billion.
titiklabingapat
Member
160k-180k, iirc.pswii60 said:
The PSP has sold 5,685,800 units since launch ( 2 and a half years into its life ).
IF the PSP manages to stay with relevance long enough in the japanese market and have the longevity of the PS2 ( 8 years from March 2000 to March 2008, lets say ), The PSP will have sold, more or less 17,057,400 ( yeah, I only multiplied the actual LTD times 3, don't flame me, I only do simple math),
if it managed that, it would be a TREMENDOUS success, considering it's sony's first entry in the handheld market. Regardless of software sales, it would mean a PSP2 would be completely feasible.
sadly, the bad, mean IF can prevent this from happening.
Now on the other side of the coin, and by my simple casual math, if DS sells 18,258,465
units in 2 and a half years and nintendo manages to keep the system at a similar level of relevance in japan for the next 6 and a half years with new mario, new training games, redesing, etc. ( and considering Sony wouldn't launch another handheld in that timeframe) DS would have sold around... 54,775,395 units ?! ... O_O .... unheard of.
This crap math I have here is just for fun, don't flame me you nerdy sales gaffers.
IF the PSP manages to stay with relevance long enough in the japanese market and have the longevity of the PS2 ( 8 years from March 2000 to March 2008, lets say ), The PSP will have sold, more or less 17,057,400 ( yeah, I only multiplied the actual LTD times 3, don't flame me, I only do simple math),
if it managed that, it would be a TREMENDOUS success, considering it's sony's first entry in the handheld market. Regardless of software sales, it would mean a PSP2 would be completely feasible.
sadly, the bad, mean IF can prevent this from happening.
Now on the other side of the coin, and by my simple casual math, if DS sells 18,258,465
units in 2 and a half years and nintendo manages to keep the system at a similar level of relevance in japan for the next 6 and a half years with new mario, new training games, redesing, etc. ( and considering Sony wouldn't launch another handheld in that timeframe) DS would have sold around... 54,775,395 units ?! ... O_O .... unheard of.
This crap math I have here is just for fun, don't flame me you nerdy sales gaffers.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
FitzOfRage said:
It's against Japanese law for a foreign company to hold a majority share of a Japanese company AFAIK. Ford has the highest legal percentage, which is enough for a controlling interest.
LanceStern
Banned
Cheesemeister said:
GAForums doesn't like to read sentences Cheesmeister:
(PS2) Jikkyou Powerful pro Baseball 14 - 80k
(Wii) Jikkyou Powerful pro baseball 14 - 20k
(DS) Mushi King Super Collection - 20k (slow start)
(DS) Naruto Shippuuden - 20k (slow start)
(DS) Detective Jinguuji - 10k (strong sales)
(PS2) Ultraman Fighting Evolution 3 - 1500 (30% of initial shipment)
(PS2) Sengoku Basara Double Pack - 1000 (weak)
Cygnus X-1
Member
sphinx said:The PSP has sold 5,685,800 units since launch ( 2 and a half years into its life ).
IF the PSP manages to stay with relevance long enough in the japanese market and have the longevity of the PS2 ( 8 years from March 2000 to March 2008, lets say ), The PSP will have sold, more or less 17,057,400 ( yeah, I only multiplied the actual LTD times 3, don't flame me, I only do simple math),
if it managed that, it would be a TREMENDOUS success, considering it's sony's first entry in the handheld market. Regardless of software sales, it would mean a PSP2 would be completely feasible.
sadly, the bad, mean IF can prevent this from happening.
Now on the other side of the coin, and by my simple casual math, if DS sells 18,258,465
units in 2 and a half years and nintendo manages to keep the system at a similar level of relevance in japan for the next 6 and a half years with new mario, new training games, redesing, etc. ( and considering Sony wouldn't launch another handheld in that timeframe) DS would have sold around... 54,775,395 units ?! ... O_O .... unheard of.
This crap math I have here is just for fun, don't flame me you nerdy sales gaffers.
Well, I'm sure that the numbers you posted are not at all likely. Simply the market saturation will begin sooner or later. We've already seeing that for the DS, because it's not supply constrained anymore (it seems).
For the PSP, I don't know. It is a fact that it's selling very well, considering that their software are almost absent from the charts (but with some appearances sometimes and some blockbuster like MHF2 too).
Much depends from Sony itself, because the installed base is relative big enough to permit to make profits (at least a lot more then on PS3), but Sony seems to be concentrated about PS3 right now and so PSP is alive thanks to third parties that are not bad after all.
It is not fair to compare the machine with the N64 or the GC because there are at least 2 differences: first, the lack of BIG first party sellers. Second, the great hardware's numbers. Again, Sony is making profits overall on hardware, where Nintendo didi overall on software. My opinion is that Sony could make a lot more profits on PSP if they invest some more resources in it.
Cygnus X-1 said:
absolutely.
PSP's YTD 2007 is already bigger than PSP's YTD 2006 and this is very important for the platform. It means that it gained relevance. Japanese do want the thing. Maybe not like a DS but it's doing well by itself, even without the software. Considering Sony is releasing new colors and a redesign soon, I think the longevity expectations of the PSP get bigger.
I do think it will surpass the 10 million mark at some point but I am not sure about the 17 million, seems unlikely.
As for DS, there are no signs of the thing reaching market saturation and the sales it achieves are definitely on uncharted territory. It could start declinig as soon as in 2 months or as late as in ?? 3-4 years?
I think the minimum it will reach after all is said and done and DS2 is announced is 30-35 million but knowing nintendo, I'd say they'll somehow get around it and keep the DS as relevant as in 2006-7 for the next years so.. who knows...
Famitsu July 2-8
1. NDS Zelda: Phantom Hourglass 82748 / 531634
2. NDS Chibi-Robo: Park Patrol 50402 / NEW
3. PS2 Super Robot Wars: OG 48994 / 381367
4. NDS Observation Training 37208 / 390031
5. NDS Itadaki Street DS 30516 / 239925
6. WII Wii Sports 28719 / 1710634
7. PS3 My Summer Vacation 3 27208 / NEW
8. NDS Doki-Doki Majo Shinpan! 25459 / NEW
9. NDS More English Training 17878 / 383326
10. NDS Brain Training 2 17831 / 4491193
11. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 17807 / 4623834
12. WII Wii Play 16935 / 1330736
13. PSP Ratchet & Clank 5: Gekitotsu! Dodeka Ginga no MiriMiri Gundan 16724 / 56253
14. NDS Mario Kart DS 15583 / 2265087
15. WII DK: Barrel Jet Race 15132 / 41347
16. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 14546 / 4199724
17. NDS Brain Training 13334 / 3403158
18. NDS English Training 12948 / 1881758
19. NDS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl 12874 / 5209432
20. NDS Listen! Write! Increase Vocabulary! Initial English Training 11702 / 38999
21. NDS Treasure Gaust: Gaust Diver Crimson Red/Deep Blue 9835 / NEW
22. NDS Ukkari o Nakusou! Reading Training 8296 / 26624
23. NDS Katekyoo Hitman Reborn! DS Flame Rumble 7764 / 30156
24. NDS Detailed Japanese History B Total Training 7755 / 29625
25. NDS Kanji Brain 7534 / 478476
26. NDS Yoshi's Island DS 7513 / 796043
27. NDS Ouendan 2 7512 / 180663
28. NDS Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan 7417 / 262410
29. NDS Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village 7176 / 593852
30. NDS TOEIC Test Training DS 7073 / 108248
Numbers 16-30 are all DS games.
#8 is Google-translated as "Throbbing witch God format!." :lol
Brain Training 2 will pass 4.5 million, and Animal Crossing will pass 4.2 million with Famitsu's numbers for this week.
Yoshi's Island DS will pass 800K, and Professor Layton will pass 600K with Famitsu's numbers for this week.
TOEIC Test Training launched in late March at less than 15K. It is now over 100K. Wow.
January 2007. This has been a moot question for many months, now. Japan usually doesn't have a "good" 2nd place system.
1. NDS Zelda: Phantom Hourglass 82748 / 531634
2. NDS Chibi-Robo: Park Patrol 50402 / NEW
3. PS2 Super Robot Wars: OG 48994 / 381367
4. NDS Observation Training 37208 / 390031
5. NDS Itadaki Street DS 30516 / 239925
6. WII Wii Sports 28719 / 1710634
7. PS3 My Summer Vacation 3 27208 / NEW
8. NDS Doki-Doki Majo Shinpan! 25459 / NEW
9. NDS More English Training 17878 / 383326
10. NDS Brain Training 2 17831 / 4491193
11. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 17807 / 4623834
12. WII Wii Play 16935 / 1330736
13. PSP Ratchet & Clank 5: Gekitotsu! Dodeka Ginga no MiriMiri Gundan 16724 / 56253
14. NDS Mario Kart DS 15583 / 2265087
15. WII DK: Barrel Jet Race 15132 / 41347
16. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 14546 / 4199724
17. NDS Brain Training 13334 / 3403158
18. NDS English Training 12948 / 1881758
19. NDS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl 12874 / 5209432
20. NDS Listen! Write! Increase Vocabulary! Initial English Training 11702 / 38999
21. NDS Treasure Gaust: Gaust Diver Crimson Red/Deep Blue 9835 / NEW
22. NDS Ukkari o Nakusou! Reading Training 8296 / 26624
23. NDS Katekyoo Hitman Reborn! DS Flame Rumble 7764 / 30156
24. NDS Detailed Japanese History B Total Training 7755 / 29625
25. NDS Kanji Brain 7534 / 478476
26. NDS Yoshi's Island DS 7513 / 796043
27. NDS Ouendan 2 7512 / 180663
28. NDS Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan 7417 / 262410
29. NDS Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village 7176 / 593852
30. NDS TOEIC Test Training DS 7073 / 108248
Numbers 16-30 are all DS games.
#8 is Google-translated as "Throbbing witch God format!." :lol
Brain Training 2 will pass 4.5 million, and Animal Crossing will pass 4.2 million with Famitsu's numbers for this week.
Yoshi's Island DS will pass 800K, and Professor Layton will pass 600K with Famitsu's numbers for this week.
TOEIC Test Training launched in late March at less than 15K. It is now over 100K. Wow.
Cooter said:
January 2007. This has been a moot question for many months, now. Japan usually doesn't have a "good" 2nd place system.
MasterMFauli
Banned
Cooter said:
If Hot Shot Golf bombs, it´s over.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Stop It said:
Are there even that many DS loli rape sims?
The PC is still the home for most of them.
Jibber Hack
Member
Link said:
Tentacles?
Jibber Hack
Member
donny2112 said:
Isn't it true that when the N64 came out a lot of people bought it for Mario and turned back around and sold the system?
Cygnus X-1
Member
donny2112 said:
What you say is not 100% sure, but it is highly likely. FF XIII will be for the PS3 what OoT has been for the N64 - sorta of -.