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Ok, so you must complete the campaign in MH3 before you can play the online part for free?Tenbatsu said:1) The over of the campaign.
2) This am not sure, maybe every Wii is entitled to 20 days FREE as the game is tie down to your Wii shop channel.
I think that "obonicus" has a point though, since "if all goes well" can probably be defined in several of ways. To take one example, if Sony says "if all goes well, we belive that we will sell 3 million PS3 consoles in 2010 in Japan". If Sony ends up only selling 1 million PS3 consoles in 2010 in Japan, then they might say "we did say "if all goes well", but all didnt go well". I dont mean to compare this example to any of Capcom's predictions regaridng Monster Hunter 3 just to underline that. I just wanted to mention this example to show that adding "if all goes well" to a sentence might make the sentence more vague than just saying "we belive". I guess that it depends a bit on how "if all goes well" is defined.BishopLamont said:I'm sure you're good at spotting Wally (or Waldo depending on where you live).
But ye, i agree that Capcom's answer regarding what they said about their Monster Hunter 3 prediction sales to be a standard/good PR answer, and that there isnt really too much more that Capcom can say about how the MH3 sales will be, since they dont really know too much more than we do as you said, i agree
Cool, thanks for the answer! Ye, Pokemon Diamond has a really high sell through percent indeed. I wonder how many copies Nintendo will ship regarding Pokemon HG and SS.Chris1964 said:I have the data in front of me, so here are the games with a >90% sellthrouth (m-create):
(games here) (i just write "games here" to cut a bit down on the quote size, but i did read what you wrote )
Note: M-create started giving first week sellthrough shipments only at m-create 2008 top 500, so the numbers I have are from the games that charted there as well as from the 2009 games that we have shipments report.
Pokemon is the clear undershipping winner and and if the famitsu estimate of Pokemon HG / SS 1,35M-1,90M first week prediction is based on any retailer preorders the pattern will continue.
Ah, i looked at the sales numbers of World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 instenad of World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008, i am sorry for this mistake, i retract my statment regarding this game. But Shin Sangoku Musou 5 (Famitsu numbers has it at 371,443, so it is about 71.4k off. Not too close though, but at least it isnt like 300k off or something like some of their other predicitons ), SD Gundam Generation Spirits, Super Robot Wars OG Gaiden and Ace Combat 6 (unless you count the bundled re-relase of Ace Combat 6) are relatively close, at least in my opinion. It doesnt change the fact that their other predictions are way off though, but i just wanted to be a bit fair to those predictors that they got some of their predictions relatively close at leastChris1964 said:Most of their predictions are way off even if we take the closer prediction to reality. Here are the real numbers (m-create again):
(games here)
I am not sure why they predicted that numbers for Wii Fit Plus. Maybe they think that many people dont use Wii Fit longer and therefor wont buy Wii Fit Plus? But unfortunately i have no idea.Chris1964 said:Even if I accept that they couldn't predict Wii Fit because it opened a new market what's the excuse for Wii Fit Plus? 1,80M? Really?
Ok, i see what you mean, thanks for the explanation But was the "worse predictions even than doicare" comment only aimed towards his LTD predictions? If yes, isnt it a bit "unfair" (or what i shall say) to mention his predictions when it is only based on 1 LTD that we know so far (the Wii Sports Resort LTD. The Tales of Versperia PS3 version LTD still remains to be seen as you mentioned)? Or am i missunderstanding something? What was his Wii Sports Resort LTD predictions by the way?Chris1964 said:I don't have any problem with doicare's predictions. After all this is a sales thread. The problem I have is that he wanted (and still wants it seems) to convince everyone that his predictions are based on some inside ''source'' he has and can't reveal. So since he wants to regard himself a professional sales analyst I compared him to the professional famitsu analysts.
Seriously now, it's not anything special for someone to predict first week sales. If you watch amazon.jp, some online japanese retailers, first shipments information and have some knowledge about japanese game sales you can have a rough estimate of what a game will sell its first week. The real challenge is to predict the LTD sales. I think so far doicare has spoken about two games LTD. Wii Sports Resort and Tales of Vesperia. With the first one he failed. Let's see how he will do with the second one (he predicted 330K LTD).
Predicting the 1st week sales might be easier than predicting the LTD sales, especially if you know how big the first shipment is, i agree, but to predict relatively correct 1st week sales numbers isnt necessarily that easy, at least in my opinion. For example, we knew that Mosnter Hunter 3 got a first shipment of about 1 million copies, and if i remember correctly, i saw 1st week predictions ranging from like 450k to 700k.
I guess it depends a bit on how "rough estimate" is defined though, but numbers from 450k to 700k (if those were the numbers and that i dont remember wrong) is a relatively wide range, at least in my opinion. I dont see anything wrong if peoples' predictions are off just to underline that, but i just wanted to mention that people might have a quite different 1st week sales prediction even if they should know the first shipment numbers
I dont know regarding who of those who predicted the MH3 first week sales that just went with a "gut feeling" and who that checked Amazon.co.jp and other online retail stores though. Maybe those who were relatively close with their predictions did check more into Amazon.co.jp and other online retail stores etc.?
To take another example, if New Super Mario Bros Wii gets a first shipment of 1 million copies, how much can we expect it to sell in the first week? I guess that it might be quite early to say too much about how much New Super Mario Bros Wii will sell in the first week though, but i just wanted to ask for fun
I wish that i could help you here, but unfortunately i dont know where to find older Media Create sales data, sorry :\ But i think that is cool to hear that you are making a Media Create sales database!Chris1964 said:And to quote myself in case someone didn't see it.
I have feedback from some gaffers, if anyone else wants to help he is welcome.
Ye, selling 26k isnt exactly that good indeed How much did the Sega Saturn version of NiGHTS sold by the way? I am just wondering to compare the sales numbers.onken said:Wow I can't believe how poor NiGHTS sold, that was such a kick-ass port, I loved it.
EDIT: Seeing that those Famitsu predictors predicted that NiGHTS would sell like 200k copies, i guess that this might be based a bit on how NiGHTS for Sega Saturn sold?
EDIT 2: I added some text.