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Media Create Sales Jan 22 - 28
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nextgeneration
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Those DS numbers are just insane. I remember people saying that it's on pace to be the best selling system in Japan's history, which I don't doubt for a second. Anyone know offhand the best 5 selling systems in Japan's history and their LTD numbers as well?
Joe Molotov
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GhaleonEB said:
Yeah, but Sony gained marketshare against Ninendo in the portable market. Take that, Nintendo!
Link648099
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...:lolJoe Molotov said:
FitzOfRage
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Gahiggidy said:
JoshuaJSlone
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Looking at the PS3 vs GCN launch line again, either PS3 averages more than 60+K for the next three weeks, or it will fall behind. I expect it will happen, but PS3 should eventually catch back up. PS3 must have a spike here or there, and GameCube averaged less than 20K even in good times.
Sometime in a week-ish PS3's LTD should reach PS2's first week sales. For the apples-to-apples comparison, Famitsu has PS2's first week as 631K, with PS3 at 593K with the newest numbers (which are, as always, a week behind MC's).
As for PS3 tracking behind the PocketStation, I don't believe that's true yet. I don't have the pre-2000 Famitsu data online for easy chart linkage since it has a few gaps, but through 11 weeks Famitsu has PS3 at 593K and PocketStation at 476K. However, if PS3 continues at 25K (as it was in most recent Famitsu numbers), it would fall behind week 18.
Wii being at 1,378,831 after 9 weeks, that's an average of 153,203/week. PS3 being at 594,134 after 12 weeks, that's an average of 49,511/week. DS being at ~14,762,341 (Summing the weeklies; I don't try to account for the occasional lifetime numbers MC give) after 113 weeks, that's an average of 130,640/week. PSP being at ~4,771,857 after 112 weeks, that's an average of 42,606/week. X360 being at ~306,379 after 60 weeks, that's an average of 5,106/week.
Sometime in a week-ish PS3's LTD should reach PS2's first week sales. For the apples-to-apples comparison, Famitsu has PS2's first week as 631K, with PS3 at 593K with the newest numbers (which are, as always, a week behind MC's).
As for PS3 tracking behind the PocketStation, I don't believe that's true yet. I don't have the pre-2000 Famitsu data online for easy chart linkage since it has a few gaps, but through 11 weeks Famitsu has PS3 at 593K and PocketStation at 476K. However, if PS3 continues at 25K (as it was in most recent Famitsu numbers), it would fall behind week 18.
Wii being at 1,378,831 after 9 weeks, that's an average of 153,203/week. PS3 being at 594,134 after 12 weeks, that's an average of 49,511/week. DS being at ~14,762,341 (Summing the weeklies; I don't try to account for the occasional lifetime numbers MC give) after 113 weeks, that's an average of 130,640/week. PSP being at ~4,771,857 after 112 weeks, that's an average of 42,606/week. X360 being at ~306,379 after 60 weeks, that's an average of 5,106/week.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
This Week Sales:
Sales History:
Since 11/27/07 - 9 total weeks:
360 - 3rd lowest week. Consistently Insignificant (TM) - following the 7-8k trend. Next Gen Avg = 14,707. Post Holiday Avg = 7,814.
Wii - lowest week ever. Very consistent, following the trend. Next Gen Avg = 153,203. Post Holiday Avg = 87,952.
PS3 - lowest week ever. Trending Downwards. Next Gen Avg = 48,637. Post Holiday Avg = 22,211.
Results, Analysis, & Expectations
The 360's sales are so insignificant that their inclusion in the data tracking is almost insulting. At this point it's just a 3rd color on the chart and should never, ever be regarded as more than such. <---I'm not going to change this paragraph until 360 sales go above 30k for a week. (3rd week)
The PS3 has sold less than 100k in 4 total weeks, while the Wii has sold nearly 4x that amount. Sony execs must be banking on some major titles to boost sales, but I think the rest of the known world is starting to see the trend that Sony won't admit to yet: the verge of a complete commercial flop. The ramifications for 3rd parties, assuming that the 4-1 average continues, is too large to imagine. Just know how much FFXIII and MGS4 are costing their respective companies to produce, and realize they're risking a release on a system with 26% next-gen market share. The solution? To save money/cut losses they're going to have to use those properties, and that means ports. And that will eventually translate to a snowball effect of failure for the PS3 (see the GC).
The Wii is very consistent for the past 3 weeks, selling almost exactly the same in each (+/- 5k). New titles are being announced every day, and March is looking bigger, and bigger, and bigger. There will be several titles going directly up against big titles on the PS3 and the 360. Interesting fallout will ensue.
Expectations for 01/22-01/29
360 - 7k
Wii - 89k
PS3 - 23k
This Week's Market Share:
Market Share History:
Sales History:
Since 11/27/07 - 9 total weeks:
360 - 3rd lowest week. Consistently Insignificant (TM) - following the 7-8k trend. Next Gen Avg = 14,707. Post Holiday Avg = 7,814.
Wii - lowest week ever. Very consistent, following the trend. Next Gen Avg = 153,203. Post Holiday Avg = 87,952.
PS3 - lowest week ever. Trending Downwards. Next Gen Avg = 48,637. Post Holiday Avg = 22,211.
Results, Analysis, & Expectations
The 360's sales are so insignificant that their inclusion in the data tracking is almost insulting. At this point it's just a 3rd color on the chart and should never, ever be regarded as more than such. <---I'm not going to change this paragraph until 360 sales go above 30k for a week. (3rd week)
The PS3 has sold less than 100k in 4 total weeks, while the Wii has sold nearly 4x that amount. Sony execs must be banking on some major titles to boost sales, but I think the rest of the known world is starting to see the trend that Sony won't admit to yet: the verge of a complete commercial flop. The ramifications for 3rd parties, assuming that the 4-1 average continues, is too large to imagine. Just know how much FFXIII and MGS4 are costing their respective companies to produce, and realize they're risking a release on a system with 26% next-gen market share. The solution? To save money/cut losses they're going to have to use those properties, and that means ports. And that will eventually translate to a snowball effect of failure for the PS3 (see the GC).
The Wii is very consistent for the past 3 weeks, selling almost exactly the same in each (+/- 5k). New titles are being announced every day, and March is looking bigger, and bigger, and bigger. There will be several titles going directly up against big titles on the PS3 and the 360. Interesting fallout will ensue.
Expectations for 01/22-01/29
360 - 7k
Wii - 89k
PS3 - 23k
This Week's Market Share:
Market Share History:
Code:
[B][U]Date____ 360 Wii PS3[/U][/B]
11/27-12/03: 25% 49% 26%
12/04-12/10: 24% 49% 27%
12/11-12/17: 21% 50% 29%
12/18-12/24: 17% 57% 26%
12/25-12/31: 16% 56% 28%
01/01-01/07: 15% 58% 27%
01/08-01/14: 14% 59% 27%
01/15-01/21: 14% 60% 26%
[B]01/15-01/21: 13% 60% 26%[/B]
Battersea Power Station
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The funny thing is they're already saying that the Sony-bashing is getting old. And I'm all like "This is America, dude; we're just getting started."Smiles and Cries said:
BrodiemanTTR
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Battersea Power Station said:
The Nintendo bashing hasn't gotten old 10 years later. Oh boy, dark days ahead for Sony fans.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
puck1337 said:
Thanks. I was just testing you guys to see if you're actually reading that crap.
You passed.
BrodiemanTTR said:
Man, if the PS3 is still not in first place 5 years from now, shit's gonna be really annoying. By then, there's gonna be a HUGE base of teenagers who grew up playing only Playstation that are gonna be pissed off because their favorite system isn't getting its dues.
BrodiemanTTR
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AniHawk said:
I'd post a certain YouTube link here, but I don't think I have to.
Joe Molotov
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AniHawk said:
Stormbringer said:
It has nothing to do with modesty and nothing to do with 'keeping it real'. A day or two ago, I made a post that Nintendo, even if they become market leader, would still view themselves as failures.
Imagine how you would have to think when selling the very first video game system. Think of how Bushnel searched for a mass market title (Pong), and later the Atari trying to sell video games to people who didn't know what video games were. That mentality is a far cry from the typical 'console war' mindset we have been getting from all the console companies the last couple of decades. What exactly was Atari competing against? Fairchild quit with their Channel F system, and there were other competitors that would eventually enter, but the goal was always expanding the market. Nintendo had that same mentality when it first made the Famicom and when it brought the NES to America. Console penetration to households kept rising and rising. Then, somewhere during the 16-bit generation, the stupid 'console war' mentality arose and hasn't stopped yet. In terms of absolute popularity, gaming hasn't become more popular since twenty years ago. Not even the PS2 can breach that household percentage penetration established decades ago.
IGN said:
Make a pie chart but take the total of DS or Wiis sold and make a percentage of that and the number of households in Japan (or America). The pie chart would look like Pac-Man except Pac-Man is disinterest and the teeny tiny wedge in his mouth would be Nintendo. This is how Iwata views the marketshare and why he cannot consider Nintendo to be 'market leader'... at least not until a Nintendo system is in 51% of households. Iwata wants to break that 'ceiling' of 33% which console gaming has been stuck at for the past twenty years.
Nintendo is using a different measurement of marketshare than the press is. You could say that Nintendo wants to take over the market that disinterest has seized. And disinterest will be the market leader for quite some time. If the Wii does what Iwata wants and breaks through that 33% ceiling, it would be growing the 'tiny wedge' that is Nintendo against the monstrous Evil Pac-Man of Disinterest.
Iwata isn't being modest here, he's being ambitious. He has a further goal in mind than merely outselling the other consoles. Or, perhaps I am mistaken, and Iwata is focused on growth merely due to fears of an industry demise. But I'm leaning towards the ambition side since Iwata has said he thought Wii could outsell any console ever made before. Here's what he said about the controller:
Iwata said:
More from Iwata:
IGN said:
What's really amazing is that it's over 3x what the 360 sold last year. The Xbox at the same point in it's lifecycle was down to ~1k and dropped to the hundreds a few weeks from now. The 360 is doing bad, but still better than last year and it's predecessor. Somehow. :lol
Entirely random factoid: fifth straight week of PS3 declines.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
That's gorgeous.Rock_Man said:Lots of hardware graphs...
Software sales according to Famitsu:
As you can see, sales are split almost evenly across PS3 and X360. Who predicted that 3 months ago?
Smiles and Cries
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Rock_Man said:Lots of hardware graphs...
Software sales according to Famitsu:
As you can see, sales are split almost evenly across PS3 and X360. Who predicted that 3 months ago?
I don't understand this chart... the X360 part...
Agent Icebeezy
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GhaleonEB said:
That's not random, that is a pattern
It's software market share for next-gen systems by week. At first the 360 had it all to itself, now it's down to a fraction while the Wii takes the lions share.Smiles and Cries said:
The observation was kind of random, the trend is a pattern. I just noticed it in the data and thought I'd toss it out.Agent Icebeezy said:
LanceStern
Banned
I think I can expand that quote Lapsed. Very nice post btw.
Expand outside of gaming population?
Making games to address non-gamers?
Sounds like Nintendo is going to start making some more of them non-traditional, non-game games we get so fussed up about eh?
Anyways, I like your analysis Pantherlotus. PS3 is very worrisome right now. VERY worrisome. I assume they have plenty of PS3s in shelves by now.
Expand outside of gaming population?
Making games to address non-gamers?
Sounds like Nintendo is going to start making some more of them non-traditional, non-game games we get so fussed up about eh?
Anyways, I like your analysis Pantherlotus. PS3 is very worrisome right now. VERY worrisome. I assume they have plenty of PS3s in shelves by now.
BrodiemanTTR
Member
Sean*O said:
Are you new to 360 sales in Japan?
The Abominable Snowman
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$250cvxfreak said:You'll end up with five generations of Nintendo systems under a small hood. What do you have to lose?
Battersea Power Station
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How did you word your response?GhaleonEB said:
"I know we both have jobs and $250 isn't a terrible amount of money and that buying a Wii means you will share in a hobby that means a lot to me... but I think we should wait a year. You know... it's Nintendo..."
Stormbringer
Member
Lapsed said:
Good post, I definitely understand your point. Really interesting.