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[serplux]

Indeed wiiu needs a 100$ price cut asap preferably a 150$ one

And back it up with what software? There's a reason why Sony isn't doing a pricecut for the Vita in the West right now.

Even without the price cut, the Vita was outselling the WiiU.

Mostly because of the fact that it actually had more than one retail game (the Vita had multiple!) between December and March.

 

[ArtHands]

Indeed wiiu needs a 100$ price cut asap preferably a 150$ one

I doubt it will though, since they are going to have system sellers this year.

 

[farnham]

It'll be closer to 5k than to 500k.

So 10k for wii fitu
10 k for wii party u
50k for wii sports u
50k for mario kart u

Does that sound reasonable?

I doubt it will though, since they are going to have system sellers this year.

I doubt that they will have a title that sells soul sacrifice level at this point.

 

[Father_Brain]

Regarding upcoming games for the Vita, just a quick yes or no question, do you guys think there will be no big Vita titles after July (not sure whats known of upcoming games after this)?

Big as in significant realistic potential of selling much over 100K? More likely than not. I don't see why Sony couldn't have announced anything at Vita Heaven 2 if they actually had anything up their sleeve, given that they went to the lengths of showing what appeared to be very early FFX footage just to reassure people it was still coming.

 

[serplux]

So 10k for wii fitu
10 k for wii party u
50k for wii sports u
50k for mario kart u

Does that sound reasonable?

lol

 

[Scum]

I see farnham is keeping you boys and girls on your toes.

Maybe nintendo is downsizing their business as a whole?

Indeed wiiu needs a 100$ price cut asap preferably a 150$ one

So 10k for wii fitu
10 k for wii party u
50k for wii sports u
50k for mario kart u

Does that sound reasonable?
I doubt that they will have a title that sells soul sacrifice level at this point.

 

[SnowHawk]

I wonder if One Piece 2 will shift any Vitas.

 

[Terrell]

Well vita is doing much much better than wiiu lately so

Considering that Vita was out for almost a year prior to WiiU and has more content on it, one should bloody well hope so! The fact that the sales margin between the 2 prior to price cut was as small as it was is a damning thing.

Vita fans just better damn well hope that Soul Sacrifice has legs. Otherwise, we're in for terrible news next week.

So 10k for wii fitu
10 k for wii party u
50k for wii sports u
50k for mario kart u

Does that sound reasonable?
I doubt that they will have a title that sells soul sacrifice level at this point.

The worst part is that I think you genuinely believe that it's reasonable for multi-million selling franchises to hit sub-100K sales number.

 

[Pachterballs]

Well since I don't expect Soul Sacrifice to have an amazing opening, I'll say around 40k. Anything under 40k would signal the pricecut is not going to have a long term effect and anything under 30k would show Vita is heading straight back to sub 10k. If they actually manage to stay over 50k I'll be impressed and they might just might be able to hold onto that momentum to maybe improve the baseline over 10k.
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huahhhahahahaha

 

[ohlawd]

huahhhahahahaha

and you think Laguna should head to GameFAQs. He's all right compared to you >_>

 

[DaBoss]

huahhhahahahaha

No offense, but why did you single him out? The majority of the thread guessed sub-60K sales.

 

[Scum]

Considering that Vita was out for almost a year prior to WiiU and has more content on it, one should bloody well hope so! The fact that the sales margin between the 2 prior to price cut was as small as it was is a damning thing.

Vita fans just better damn well hope that Soul Sacrifice has legs. Otherwise, we're in for terrible news next week.



The worst part is that I think you genuinely believe that it's reasonable for multi-million selling franchises to hit sub-100K sales number.

This will be the perfect opportunity for Sony to announce something, if they have anything, to keep momentum going. If not, next week should be fun indeed.

 

[Pachterballs]

No offense, but why did you single him out? The majority of the thread guessed sub-60K sales.

the majority of that thread was a pileon from regulars in it like yourself espousing VITA is dead. well, clearly, its NOT.

 

[ArtHands]

So 10k for wii fitu
10 k for wii party u
50k for wii sports u
50k for mario kart u

Does that sound reasonable?
I doubt that they will have a title that sells soul sacrifice level at this point.

Soul sacrifice's sales isn't that hard to break though, and there are already several titles that is most probably going to do better such as mario kart U.

 

[Maedhros]

huahhhahahahaha

I don't know what the hell you're doing on this topic. You clearly don't know shit about this and don't even make a decent post at all. Keep fanboyism on other topics, please.

He is right, though. 20~30k is really too nice for Vita next week, considering there are almost no releases.

 

[ohlawd]

the majority of that thread was a pileon from regulars in it like yourself espousing VITA is dead. well, clearly, its NOT.

that "NOT" screams like some kid in elementary school giddy about winning a Beyblade tournament.

fuckin' crazy shit.

 

[Wynnebeck]

the majority of that thread was a pileon from regulars in it like yourself espousing VITA is dead. well, clearly, its NOT.

Nope These two weeks are anomalies. Next week will drop down to >35K.

 

[KillerTravis]

the majority of that thread was a pileon from regulars in it like yourself espousing VITA is dead. well, clearly, its NOT.

And you think SS sales are indicative of that? I still fail to see how 140k is impressive for such a heavily marketed title.

 

[zeopower6]

I don't see why Sony couldn't have announced anything at Vita Heaven 2 if they actually had anything up their sleeve,

I wish that thread never happened because that was not Vita Heaven 2... that was just a thread title. The event itself was literally titled something like "PlayStation Vita new information broadcast!".

And you think SS sales are indicative of that? I still fail to see how 140k is impressive for such a heavily marketed title.

Sellouts man. But here's hoping next week doesn't drop too much for Soul Sacrifice. The Vita probably won't maintain the sales from this week/last week though. Would be nice for it to!

 

[Terrell]

Nope These two weeks are anomalies. Next week will drop down to >35K.

I wouldn't call them anomalies. Non-sustainable, though? Definitely. As I said, unless SS produces legs, it's too early to gloat.

 

[Jinfash]

How about you stop hating other peoples opinions? Right now there just isn´t any software announced that looks likely to sell 600k units on PSV in Japan, deal with it.

Keep it cute guys.

 

[Spiegel]

huahhhahahahaha

You should have singled me

Those are some disappointing Vita sales.

I see it doing sub 20k the week after Soul Sacrifice and 10-15k at the end of the month.


My bet

62k -> 33k (Soul Sacrifice bundle) -> 18k -> 20k (One Piece) -> 14k

 

[Maedhros]

And you think SS sales are indicative of that? I still fail to see how 140k is impressive for such a heavily marketed title.

It is though. A new IP and all... on a tiny userbase... etc. Everything was already said here.

 

[Father_Brain]

I wish that thread never happened because that was not Vita Heaven 2... that was just a thread title. The event itself was literally titled something like "PlayStation Vita new information broadcast!".

Yeah, I know. I should have mentioned that I was just using the name as shorthand, but I stand by my point.

 

[ShineALight]

Keep it cute guys.

Is he wrong, though? What software announced is likely to put up those kind of numbers in Japan?

 

[Lexxism]

Lol. Even SmokyDave a die hard vita fan said that he doesn't think that SS will have a good first week thus giving only a 66k prediction. Oh people.

 

[Jinfash]

Is he wrong, though? What software announced is likely to put up those kind of numbers in Japan?

Follow the quotes to see where he erred. Emotions are needlessly running high up in this bitch.

 

[gkryhewy]

the majority of that thread was a pileon from regulars in it like yourself espousing VITA is dead. well, clearly, its NOT.

Why do you keep spelling Vita in all caps like it's an acronym?

 

[ArtHands]

This will be the perfect opportunity for Sony to announce something, if they have anything, to keep momentum going. If not, next week should be fun indeed.

Price cut momentum usually dont last for more than a month, and you need to have game released, not announcement, to keep the price cut momentum going. That's why nintendo have a mario kart, 3D land and monster hunter released shortly after the 3DS price cut to maintain the momentum and to kill vita's launch in japan. Not to mention that it will take games in the same league as mario kart/3d land and monster hunter to maintain the momentum.

If sony announces games now, it'll be out only until around tgs. There's no games to fill in the game between now till then. This is not entirely sony's fault though, because it is very hard for them to convince the 3rd party, especially after they see the success of animal crossing for the past few months.

 

[zeopower6]

Why do you keep spelling Vita in all caps like it's an acronym?

Probably due to the logo. I think it works either way tbh.

because it is very hard for them to convince the 3rd party, especially after they see the success of animal crossing for the past few months.

...what?

 

[DR2K]

You can tell the Vita is alive by all the fanboy rage. Portable wars II.

 

[ULTROS!]

I don't really post here but there sure are a lot of crazy fans in the Media Create threads.

 

[Mario007]

I don't really post here but there sure are a lot of crazy fans in the Media Create threads.

Makes for a fun reading though

You can tell the Vita is alive by all the fanboy rage. Portable wars II.

It's not even a war. I don't think either side believes Vita will catch up or come close to 3DS' sales. It's just the case of some people here wanting to see Vita dead and spinning any numbers in that way and the other people wanting it to be much more alive than it actually is and spinning the numbers their way.

As I've said already a 20k a week performance by Vita would be a healthy enough figure for it right now. Sony does need to start announcing those games that they said they have, though.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I think the real test of longevity for Vita sales will be if Soul Sacrifice can have some substantial word of mouth and become a decent reliable seller in the coming months. It's a reach, for sure, but I guess anything is possible.

Otherwise sales will probably taper off to around 15K or so due to the pricecut.

 

[Mario007]

I think the real test of longevity for Vita sales will be if Soul Sacrifice can have some substantial word of mouth and become a decent reliable seller in the coming months. It's a reach, for sure, but I guess anything is possible.

Otherwise sales will probably taper off to around 15K or so due to the pricecut.

If SS does another 100k through its legs, then it was a success for Sony, I would say.

 

[big youth]

Makes for a fun reading though



It's not even a war. I don't think either side believes Vita will catch up or come close to 3DS' sales. It's just the case of some people here wanting to see Vita dead and spinning any numbers in that way and the other people wanting it to be much more alive than it actually is and spinning the numbers their way.

As I've said already a 20k a week performance by Vita would be a healthy enough figure for it right now. Sony does need to start announcing those games that they said they have, though.

beyond 1 or 2 people here, I doubt anyone wants to see the Vita dead. numbers needn't be spun, and 20k per week is nowhere near healthy in Japan. Vita's last possible system seller and first price drop are now in the past. Unless word of mouth makes SS become a system selling phenomenon, there is no hope left for the platform.

 

[Lexxism]

Btw, 136k is the total sales of SS with bundle and double pack right? Also, what's with the double pack anyway? Anyone can enlighten me?

 

[Sandfox]

Given that Tales of Hearts didn't exactly sell well I wonder if Bamco still thinks its a good idea to release Tempest R? They probably chose to release it last because its going to be the one with the most changes but I can't see it selling much at all.

 

[Mario007]

beyond 1 or 2 people here, I doubt anyone wants to see the Vita dead. numbers needn't be spun, and 20k per week is nowhere near healthy in Japan. Vita's last possible system seller and first price drop are now in the past. Unless word of mouth makes SS become a system selling phenomenon, there is no hope left for the platform.

And that's spinning the numbers, especially the last part. 20k is ok, nothing great, but ok. PS3 used to sell around 22-30k for the majority of the last few years, now it dipped below 20k. I know PS3 is on the way out but it's nice a comparison. Oh and 'Vita's last possible system seller' really doesn't sound like doom and gloom at all.

 

[zeopower6]

Btw, 136k is the total sales of SS with bundle and double pack right?

Around there, yeah.

I do think that the Vita has to start somewhere in terms of getting out of that sub-10k range to do well and this is a good place for it to be at this point in time. No one expects it to suddenly do 70-100k consistently week after week but anything is better than selling 9,000 a week imo :/.

 

[big youth]

And that's spinning the numbers, especially the last part. 20k is ok, nothing great, but ok. PS3 used to sell around 22-30k for the majority of the last few years, now it dipped below 20k. I know PS3 is on the way out but it's nice a comparison. Oh and 'Vita's last possible system seller' really doesn't sound like doom and gloom at all.

if there is another system seller announced please do tell.

with PS3 you are comparing apples to oranges. Vita has been out in Japan for over a year and has sold under 1.5 million to date. is this spinning numbers?

 

[Lexxism]

Around there, yeah.

I do think that the Vita has to start somewhere in terms of getting out of that sub-10k range to do well and this is a good place for it to be at this point in time. No one expects it to suddenly do 70-100k consistently week after week but anything is better than selling 9,000 a week imo :/.

Uhm, wait. 92k is just the retail right(media create)? The bundle is not yet included? The 105k by famitsu is the bundled one? So if we include the double pack, it should be around 149k? Did I get it right?

 

[zeopower6]

Uhm, wait. 92k is just the retail right(media create)? The bundle is not yet included? The 105k by famitsu is the bundled one? So if we include the double pack, it should be around 149k? Did I get it right?

I don't know how MC or Famitsu handle bundles. I'd imagine they should be included but I don't know if they're in a separate listing or anything like that.

if there is another system seller announced please do tell.

with PS3 you are comparing apples to oranges. Vita has been out in Japan for over a year and has sold under 1.5 million to date. is this spinning numbers?

There's not much announced in general for the Vita at the moment. I'm just hoping there's more planned for the latter part of the year.

 

[DaBoss]

Uhm, wait. 92k is just the retail right(media create)? The bundle is not yet included? The 105k by famitsu is the bundled one? So if we include the double pack, it should be around 149k? Did I get it right?

I don't know how MC or Famitsu handle bundles. I'd imagine they should be included but I don't know if they're in a separate listing or anything like that.

Media Create has the SKUs separate, Famitsu is combining the 2 SKUs together.

 

[zeopower6]

Media Create has the SKUs separate, Famitsu is combining the 2 SKUs together.

I thought they were referring to the bundle as in the game+system bundle and not the double-pack.

 

[DaBoss]

I thought they were referring to the bundle as in the game+system bundle and not the double-pack.

Oh whoops, thought you guys were talking about the double pack. The bundle is included in the normal SKU I presume. Pretty sure they count bundles as part of the normal SKUs.

 

[Jonnyram]

So here's a question.
Why did Vita sell 63,581 units this week?
The results of the price drop were seen last week and Senran Kagura sold more than Soul Sacrifice (at least in its standalone SKU), so why did Vita sales go up this week?

 

[Maedhros]

So here's a question.
Why did Vita sell 63,581 units this week?
The results of the price drop were seen last week and Senran Kagura sold more than Soul Sacrifice (at least in its standalone SKU), so why did Vita sales go up this week?

Soul Sacrifice.

 

[StreetsAhead]

So here's a question.
Why did Vita sell 63,581 units this week?
The results of the price drop were seen last week and Senran Kagura sold more than Soul Sacrifice (at least in its standalone SKU), so why did Vita sales go up this week?

Possible theories:
1) Statistical noise
2) It had one of the biggest games for 2013 released
3) The price drop carried over to this week too

Or some combination.

We'll never know. -__-

 

[Sandfox]

So here's a question.
Why did Vita sell 63,581 units this week?
The results of the price drop were seen last week and Senran Kagura sold more than Soul Sacrifice (at least in its standalone SKU), so why did Vita sales go up this week?

Two big name releases and a new bundle.