KillerMan91
Member
Manga does still fine (not anything close to One Piece numbers though). Games have not sold that well though. Previous games sold way more in EU and US.
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Media Create Sales: Week 14, 2013 (Apr 01 - Apr 07)
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Manga does still fine (not anything close to One Piece numbers though). Games have not sold that well though. Previous games sold way more in EU and US.
any particular reason for that ?
Exterminieren
Banned
When the Tomodachi Collection Mint 3DS bundle is out next week, and Disney weirdness aside, we'll be without an announced limited edition bundle on the horizon for the first time in a while.
I'd expect Mon Hun and Pokemon bundles on the horizon, obviously.
I'd expect Mon Hun and Pokemon bundles on the horizon, obviously.
frankie_baby
Member
So your supposition rellies on discounting a game you find weird and completely forgets smt4
Exterminieren
Banned
I meant potential big moving bundles.
But I forgot SMT.
So
yeah
But I forgot SMT.
So
yeah
frankie_baby
Member
so you are saying the disney game doesn't have the potential to be a big moving bundle? again dismissive as you consider the game weird, its too early to say how it will do but namco has enough faith (or is putting enough marketing its way) to justify a bundle which is sold out already on amazon, so you cant say yet it doesn't have potential
Exterminieren
Banned
It's based on a browser game, isn't it?
I dunno, it might do numbers, but I find the bundle utterly bizarre.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
So is DQX considered a disappointment?
Also, Wii U and PS3 sales numbers are pretty close to each other. A price drop for Wii U can do wonders, but don't know when Nintendo will do that.
Also, Wii U and PS3 sales numbers are pretty close to each other. A price drop for Wii U can do wonders, but don't know when Nintendo will do that.
frankie_baby
Member
cant really say for dq10 as i'm convinced its a game that will sell mainly digitally (upgrading wii players can get 50% discount on the eshop)
frankie_baby
Member
haven't really heard any details but yeah sounds pretty bizare if its based on a browser game, but that doesnt mean it cant be a succes and i'd assume if its got a bundle it'll be getting a big push, wouldnt be surprised at a few hundred k
If you say so.
I just think adding unnecessary things is kind of a step in the wrong direction. Trim that fat!!
Should get rid of that touchpad as well.
Yeah, at this point I agree. But it shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Like the 3DS gyro. Either pick that or the screen, dammit D:
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Yeah but it's actually detrimental in the games I've played it that make use of the rear touch pad.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Chances of a vita with cheap, shitty, smaller LCD screen?
Games took a long time to get right in next gen and the GCN series which sold a ton and was based on pre-timeskip didn't really improve on the Wii (in fact the games got worse) while the Cyber Connect games just sort of rolled along doing the same exact thing only prettier.
Even then it's mainly on the fatigue the franchise itself engendered with the meandering plot after the time skip and the disastrous filler hell the anime went through killing all the momentum the series has.
This seems like a game that benefits from having an already established install base, rather than something that is going to move systems. Are people going to run out and buy a console to play a game they already have on their phones?
Father_Brain
Banned
Definitely. I don't think there's ever been a single indie/F2P game, no matter how successful, that could honestly be called a system seller, and I doubt there ever will be.
MasterSheen
Member
3DS will hold at least the top 5 best selling games of 2013. We already have two million sellers for this year (AC and DQ), and for the rest of the year we have three more assured to pass 1m(Pokemon XY, MH4, TC). Luigi could get there too if legs hold up.
Not Free to Play but apparently tons of people ran out to buy 360's to play Minecraft of all things.
Bruno MB
Member
Your post made me check old Famitsu data to see how the Top 5 for 2013 will probably fare against other years. I even thought that it might had a chance to be the best of all sales-wise. Well, the answer is NO. I didn't remember how massive 2006 was, NDS in its beast mode. 2009 won't be topped too. And what about 2010? well, at least it's not impossible unless either Tomodachi Collection or Monster Hunter 4 underperforms. It's curious because they will look similar:
01. Pokemon Black / White - Pokemon X / Y
02. Monster Hunter Freedom 3 - Monster Hunter 4
05. Dragon Quest VI: Realms Of Revelation - Dragon Quest VII: Fighters of Eden
Being conservative Top 5 for 2013 could be something like this:
[3DS] Pokemon X / Y - 4.000.000
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 3.000.000
[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 2.250.000
[3DS] Tomodachi Collection: Shin Seikatsu - 1.500.000
[3DS] Dragon Quest VII - 1.250.000
Total - Around 12.000.000 units.
If League of Legends came to a console with cross play with PC's I think we'd see quite a few systems sold. Also Minecraft, mentioned above, was certainly a system seller.
electroplankton
Banned
We already saw some iOS title selling really well on DS and 3DS in the West, like Angry Birds and Plants vs. Zombies. We don't know to what extent the moved hardware, though.
In Japan, instead, we had some cases of popular arcade games that drove hardware sales, like Love & Berry (eventually a million seller). It all depends on how larger the experience will be. Surely, 3DS is popular among kids and general audience, so this game might the one of the reasons to pick it up.
That seems extremely short sighted. I'm going to disagree. Nowadays I feel like most of the 'must have' titles I hear about (amongst people that don't normally game) are F2P titles.
pieatorium
Member
No PC moba would do anything on console unless keyboard and mouse controls were allowed because they would control like complete shit and then you have the non standard control requirement making it a non starter.
Thats not even taking into consideration the hoops and expenses needed to perform patches and update which happen as regularly or even moreso than mmo's.
If a moba style game ever takes of on console it would be something built from the ground up for console. You can't just throw any game from a platform onto a random other platform.
Moor-Angol
Banned
arcade ?
kids?
seems like you don't know so much about P&D...
Love & Berry let people to use cards they already used for arcade, P&D is aimed to a very different target, whom already play the game on smartphones.
Who should pay for an app you already have on your smartphone?
Media Create Top 50:
21./30. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800)
22./32. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040)
23./00. [PSP] HatsuKare Renai Debut Sengen! # <ADV> (FuRyu) {2013.04.04} (¥6.090)
24./23. [3DS] Dragon Quest VII: Fighters of Eden <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.02.07} (¥6.090)
25./18. [3DS] Super Robot Wars UX # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥7.140)
26./14. [WII] PreCure All-Stars: Zenin Shuugou Let's Dance! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.28} (¥6.090)
27./24. [3DS] Pretty Rhythm: My Deco Rainbow Wedding <ACT> (Takara Tomy) {2013.03.20} (¥6.279)
28./22. [PS3] Disgaea D2 # <SLG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2013.03.20} (¥7.140)
29./25. [PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f <ACT> (Sega) {2013.03.07} (¥7.329)
30./34. [PS3] Far Cry 3 <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2013.03.07} (¥7.770)
31./28. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.02.28} (¥7.560)
32./31. [PSV] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥7.980)
33./33. [3DS] Doraemon: Nobita to Himitsu Dougu Hakubutsukan <ADV> (FuRyu) {2013.03.07} (¥5.229)
34./39. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985)
35./46. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040)
36./44. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
37./40. [3DS] Paper Mario: Sticker Star <ADV> (Nintendo) {2012.12.06} (¥4.800)
38./42. [PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus: Otome Shoujotachi no Shoumei # <ACT> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.02.28} (¥6.980)
39./49. [NDS] Pokèmon Black 2 / White 2 <RPG> (Pokèmon Co.) {2012.06.23} (¥4.800)
40./37. [PSV] Atelier Meruru Plus: The Alchemist of Arland 3 # <RPG> (Gust) {2013.03.20} (¥6.090)
41./00. [WIU] Nintendo Land <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥4.935)
42./47. [PSV] Phantasy Star Online 2: Special Package <RPG> (Sega) {2013.02.28} (¥5.229)
43./00. [WII] Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku Online # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.08.02} (¥6.980)
44./00. [PSP] Uta no Prince-Sama: All Star # <ACT> (Broccoli) {2013.03.07} (¥6.090)
45./48. [3DS] Touch Detective: Nameko Shigeru <PZL> (Success) {2013.02.28} (¥3.990)
46./12. [PSV] Sei Madou Monogatari # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2013.03.28} (¥7.140)
47./00. [PS3] Winning Post 7 2013 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.03.14} (¥7.560)
48./00. [3DS] Puyo Puyo!! Puyo Puyo 20th Anniversary (Special Price) <PZL> (Sega) {2012.12.13} (¥2.940)
49./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.12.20} (¥7.980)
50./00. [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.09.27} (¥4.800)
Top 50
3DS - 18
PS3 - 10
PSV - 8
PSP - 6
WIU - 4
WII - 3
NDS - 1
SOFTWARE
21./30. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800)
22./32. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040)
23./00. [PSP] HatsuKare Renai Debut Sengen! # <ADV> (FuRyu) {2013.04.04} (¥6.090)
24./23. [3DS] Dragon Quest VII: Fighters of Eden <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.02.07} (¥6.090)
25./18. [3DS] Super Robot Wars UX # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥7.140)
26./14. [WII] PreCure All-Stars: Zenin Shuugou Let's Dance! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.28} (¥6.090)
27./24. [3DS] Pretty Rhythm: My Deco Rainbow Wedding <ACT> (Takara Tomy) {2013.03.20} (¥6.279)
28./22. [PS3] Disgaea D2 # <SLG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2013.03.20} (¥7.140)
29./25. [PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f <ACT> (Sega) {2013.03.07} (¥7.329)
30./34. [PS3] Far Cry 3 <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2013.03.07} (¥7.770)
31./28. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.02.28} (¥7.560)
32./31. [PSV] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥7.980)
33./33. [3DS] Doraemon: Nobita to Himitsu Dougu Hakubutsukan <ADV> (FuRyu) {2013.03.07} (¥5.229)
34./39. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985)
35./46. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040)
36./44. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
37./40. [3DS] Paper Mario: Sticker Star <ADV> (Nintendo) {2012.12.06} (¥4.800)
38./42. [PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus: Otome Shoujotachi no Shoumei # <ACT> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.02.28} (¥6.980)
39./49. [NDS] Pokèmon Black 2 / White 2 <RPG> (Pokèmon Co.) {2012.06.23} (¥4.800)
40./37. [PSV] Atelier Meruru Plus: The Alchemist of Arland 3 # <RPG> (Gust) {2013.03.20} (¥6.090)
41./00. [WIU] Nintendo Land <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥4.935)
42./47. [PSV] Phantasy Star Online 2: Special Package <RPG> (Sega) {2013.02.28} (¥5.229)
43./00. [WII] Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku Online # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.08.02} (¥6.980)
44./00. [PSP] Uta no Prince-Sama: All Star # <ACT> (Broccoli) {2013.03.07} (¥6.090)
45./48. [3DS] Touch Detective: Nameko Shigeru <PZL> (Success) {2013.02.28} (¥3.990)
46./12. [PSV] Sei Madou Monogatari # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2013.03.28} (¥7.140)
47./00. [PS3] Winning Post 7 2013 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.03.14} (¥7.560)
48./00. [3DS] Puyo Puyo!! Puyo Puyo 20th Anniversary (Special Price) <PZL> (Sega) {2012.12.13} (¥2.940)
49./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.12.20} (¥7.980)
50./00. [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.09.27} (¥4.800)
Top 50
3DS - 18
PS3 - 10
PSV - 8
PSP - 6
WIU - 4
WII - 3
NDS - 1
SOFTWARE
Code:
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD |
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| ALL | 647.000 | 1.023.000 | 855.000 | 13.688.000 | 13.519.000 |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------Interesting. Just yesterday two of my pals told me they were going to buy a Vita after Jeff Minter announced TxK. Sounds like a system seller to me.
electroplankton
Banned
It depends on how bigger will be the experience on 3DS. 50k people bought that Mystery Detective browser game on 3DS, for example.
Also: what's the target of PandD? source?
Father_Brain
Banned
Is there some survey or other figure to back this up?
And how many of those people who don't normally game bought a PC, smartphone, or tablet to play said title?
Two people for a Jeff Minter game? There might be dozens more!
Seriously, anecdotal evidence regarding a game that would be an extremely niche title on any platform doesn't do much to disprove my point.
I doubt that.
michaelius
Banned
yeah - average laptop should be able to run it so i don't see this happening.
Most people already own a PC, tablet or smartphone. What I'm thinking is that it's entirely possible (likely, even) that a Minecraft / Puzzle & Dragon / Candy Crush title will spring up on a handheld or console in the next few years and end up shifting units of that system.
RyougaSaotome
Member
Current Vita shortage for Sapphire Blue and Cosmic red is gonna continue up till a little before Golden Week. Sony's producing more of the units for GW.
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/7045786.html
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/7045786.html
michaelius
Banned
I wonder if Sony will have dedicated advertising campaign for that first wave of "Vita the best" titles which hits on 25.04
so wait are they selling that well that sony can't keep up with demand or is it just a distribution problem?
Sammy Samusu
Member
Did MC say anything about Vita?
EDIT: Nope.
But they did a 3M comparison for AC:
ACNL - 22 weeks
ACWW - 36 weeks
Famitsu is the superior track though:
ACNL - 16 weeks
ACWW - 34 weeks
Not including huge digital sales.
EDIT: Nope.
But they did a 3M comparison for AC:
ACNL - 22 weeks
ACWW - 36 weeks
Famitsu is the superior track though:
ACNL - 16 weeks
ACWW - 34 weeks
Not including huge digital sales.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
This is worded so carefully that I don't think anyone could disagree, but also stabs at the root of considering anything a system seller. Even in cases where software releases spike hardware sales, it's difficult to say that that one piece of software was why they were buying the hardware, rather the tipping point. I think most people buy hardware because, in aggregate, there's enough released and (!) announced support to want to own the hardware.
Something is clearly selling iOS devices--it's 2013 so I'm literally just going to ignore any suggestion that gaming/app in general aren't a big part of the reason why people buy them and a big part of what they do with them; yes, in conjunction with the fact that they're well made and make phone calls and do texts and browse the internet--and there's a series of 8+ figure sales apps like Angry Birds, Fruit Ninja, Temple Run, Jetpack Joyride, Doodle Jump, Cut the Rope, Where's My Water?, Words with Friends, Draw Something, Happy Street, Pocket God, Tiny Wings, Tap Tap Revenge, and countless more at the 7+ figure sales level. I think it would be remiss to suggest that those aforementioned software aren't, in aggregate, contributing to iOS (and also Android, to be honest) hardware sales and the general shift in attention to mobile.
I don't think having Puzzle and Dragon automatically spikes 3DS hardware. But I do think it's something that would be successful on 3DS, and if more heavy-hitting software gets ported from iOS to 3DS I think it'll contribute to a sense of normalizing the hardware as a place to play the games everyone is buzzing about.
I suspect you agree with me, so I'm more using your post as a launch-off point than arguing or anything.
i gree with the bolded
For proof of this you have but to look at the PS2 who sold 150 million units not only because of brand power or the cheap price but also because by the end of its life it had a game library where any current device can only dream off.
nealy 4000+ games in total.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_2_games
Game and Wario actually does show off the Wii U perfectly. It's crazy good.
I could listen to the Ashley music all day :U
Father_Brain
Banned
Good points, and you're right that I don't disagree. I think indie/F2P games can certainly help drive hardware sales as a significant part of a very broad and diverse software ecosystem; I just don't believe that there's any one or two or even five games in that category that, in and of themselves, are responsible for a sizable chunk of hardware sales.
Yeah, the stock problemas for Vita seems to be for Sapphire Blue and Cosmic red. There's availability for the other colors.
michaelius
Banned
Will Puzzle&Dragons require contant online collection ? That would be huge deal breaker on handhelds