Little point if the software isn't there.
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Media Create Sales: Week 16, 2012 (Apr 16 - Apr 22)
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Little point if the software isn't there.
It wasn't really the price cut that "saved" the 3DS; it was the games. No doubt the lower price helped, but sales didn't truly gain much ground until the trinity's arrival.
TheNatural
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Trouble in what sense? They have a ridiculous amount of money, they're not going away or anything close to that anytime soon if that's what you're suggesting.
But, but, but, Nintendo is going third-party...
Unless they are planning to sell Wii U at loss I don't think there's a huge likelyhood. They will have smaller revenue due to 3DS bleed but that should get fixed up next fiscal year. Software sales should be way up with both 3DS and Wii U going and Wii U is actually releasing in the holiday season rather than the lousy Smarch sales period.
Cygnus X-1
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Yes, but this doesn't justify losses by any means. Nintendo has to prove they can face the strong yen, the price drop of 3DS and the R&D for Wii U during next FY to be convincing enough.
Well, this sounds reasonable. That's anyway why I'm quite curious. We'll see.
So, basically, you are feeling bad for almost no one.
TheNatural
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So basically like every other Japanese company nowadays? It's not good to lose money, but it doesn't mean they're in trouble. They're in way less "trouble" than Sony is right now. Sony has heavy losses, is making cuts, and it's big handheld product isn't selling.
It's the way things are, they just have to adjust and move on.
test_account
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Really no need for that until you see the result of how much the games sells. Big budget games can easily flop on systems with a big install base as well.
The_Darkest_Red
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Indeed, and if the hypothetical big budget Vita game is good and appealing enough it might even push some hardware.
true but right now we don't even know one big budget title for VITA which is the scary part.
test_account
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True indeed.
I understand that making a game for a system with bigger install base means that one risk is minimized, but sometimes it can be worth to take risks. One could end up with a big success.
Then it is like mpl90 said, no need to feel bad for anyone hehe
How much would a big budget be by the way? Kinda hard to say since we hardly know any budgets of games though. I actually dont think i've seen any budget mentioned for japanese games this entire generation besides Gran Turismo 5.
dacuk
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I am actually expecting some sort of reassuring to the investors that the WiiU is not inferior technologically to PS3 / X360
JoshuaJSlone
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Just wanted to say good on you for keeping up with this stuff each week, it's an interesting way of looking at things.
GBA hardware was at about 6.4 million for Ruby/Sapphire, DS at 11.1 million for Diamond/Pearl.frankie_baby said:
Exterminieren
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I really don't think investors care. They'd appreciate a graphical calculator that brings fabulous profit over a beast of a console that does.
I wouldn't be surprised to hear the words App Store in relation to WiiU. Not Apple, obviously, but a WiiU equivalent that has the magic buzzword to appease the investors. Maybe an announcement of an Angry Birds port or something.
bigtroyjon
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Just making sure I'm doing my time zone's right, Nintendo is releasing their earnings at 4PM in Japan today(Thursday).
That is a little bit over 11 hours from now, right?
That is a little bit over 11 hours from now, right?
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Investors don't really give a shit about graphics. They want to hear about something that is a sure-fire way to make a bunch of money. Greater focus on DLC/digital content, App store, profit on Wii-U from the beginning, technology that will get consumers interested, etc. Is the type stuff we could hear from the investor meeting that we would care about. Maybe a game announcement if we are lucky, or release dates for a huge selling titles like NSMB3DS and ONI Training.
3DS is still selling below expectations in the west, and Wii U releases during the tail-end of the year and possibly at a small loss early on, so they might need time to steady the ship. They definitely won't post a bigger loss, though. Well, unless Wii U flops of course.
Father_Brain
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But some of the analysts they listen to do, and several have used the recent less-powerful-than-current-HD-consoles rumors as rationales for revising their projections downward.
There obviously isn't going to be a new tech demo shown or a complete spec sheet released, but it'll be interesting to see how Iwata responds if he's asked directly.
Sammy Samusu
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I think the fiscal meeting starts at 10am in Japan, 9pm EDT, five hours from now.
But you heard/read it starts at 4pm in Japan? That would be 3am EDT, eleven hours from now, yes.
Father_Brain
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The results are released late afternoon JST on the 26th, which is very early the same day EDT. The briefing is in the morning JST on the 27th, which is tomorrow night EDT.
You mean tomorrow night EDT... I think.
bigtroyjon
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Earnings are released at 4PM Thursday in Japan, the conference call/presentation is at 10AM Friday in Japan.
Things are getting VERY bleak for the Vita. Hopefully it'll see a bump for Golden Week.
Fire Emblem.....amazing numbers! I can't even remember the last time Fire Emblem opened for that amount.
3DS is trending very nicely now. Unfortunately, this is around the time where the DS absolutely exploded in sales, so there is zero chance it'll catch up.
Fire Emblem.....amazing numbers! I can't even remember the last time Fire Emblem opened for that amount.
3DS is trending very nicely now. Unfortunately, this is around the time where the DS absolutely exploded in sales, so there is zero chance it'll catch up.
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Nightstick11
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Very happy to see how well Fire Emblem did. Now come to North America!!
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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Where are my graphs, people? I need my Pacman chart.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
See. It's amazing the effect Folders on a handheld can have....
This is hilarious.See. It's amazing the effect Folders on a handheld can have....
That data is only up to December 31.
I think at this point, the 3DS is a lock as far as being a strong product in Japan for the next 3-4 years, which is great news. Elsewhere is a little more up in the air, but the situation isn't necessarily dire. They're going to need a redesign most likely by this time next year.
Lord_Byron28
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Joke post?
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I did a Google image search as I couldn't find the original GAF link...
I have to say i'm very, very happy about FE. I thought it would just scratch the 200k mark, because the initial shipment was that amount, plus an additional 50k that wasn't certain when it'd hit.
Looking at it like this, i'm excited to learn what kind of sellthrough FE has had in its first week. This game looks like it's awesome!!
@BurntPork
3DS is likely still charting ahead of DS (at least until march), even though it will soon be surpassed by the monstrous weeks it had.
Meh, people need to understand that a success like the DS, or even the PS2, is very hard to replicate, and it doesn't necessarily have to happen in order to be very successful.
Looking at it like this, i'm excited to learn what kind of sellthrough FE has had in its first week. This game looks like it's awesome!!
@BurntPork
3DS is likely still charting ahead of DS (at least until march), even though it will soon be surpassed by the monstrous weeks it had.
Meh, people need to understand that a success like the DS, or even the PS2, is very hard to replicate, and it doesn't necessarily have to happen in order to be very successful.
Exterminieren
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Comparing the first quarter quiet zone to DS's second holiday season is of limited use at best.
I'm excited to see if Mr. Pac Man chomps down for golden week.
Check his avatar. Also, it's Man God.