I don't feel it's as engaging as it should have been right now, but maybe that's because this is the first gacha game I played at launch. No idea how much content something like Granblue / Fate GO had at launch.
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I don't feel it's as engaging as it should have been right now, but maybe that's because this is the first gacha game I played at launch. No idea how much content something like Granblue / Fate GO had at launch.
Bruno MB
Member
Prediction League January 2017 Results
Congratulations to:
- horuhe, for winning by units!
- horuhe, for winning by mean error %!
Congratulations to:
- horuhe, for winning by units!
- horuhe, for winning by mean error %!
Code:
BY UNITS BY MEAN ERROR %
1 horuhe 120.231 1 horuhe 13,06%
2 Eolz 123.989 2 Eolz 14,91%
3 DKHF 133.426 3 Bruno MB 20,21%
4 Jarod McChicken 151.897 4 DKHF 20,59%
5 astrogamer 157.897 5 Jarod McChicken 21,03%
6 Hellraider 164.521 6 Yeshua 22,06%
7 Bruno MB 164.521 7 astrogamer 22,07%
8 Yeshua 171.897 8 DarkLordMalik 22,55%
9 noshten 183.347 9 Hellraider 23,55%
10 casiopao 185.099 10 casiopao 24,01%
11 DarkLordMalik 190.545 11 Dolgan 27,01%
12 vaporeon 198.521 12 vaporeon 27,26%
13 ethomaz 199.521 13 ethomaz 27,56%
14 Kanann 201.521 14 Kanann 27,86%
15 Dolgan 214.521 15 noshten 29,47%
16 Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule 215.723 16 noobie 30,80%
17 Kenzodielocke 235.897 17 Chris1964 31,03%
18 noobie 239.521 18 Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule 31,27%
19 Chris1964 246.919 19 Kenzodielocke 32,99%
20 Yagami_Sama 277.942 20 Yagami_Sama 37,61%
21 LordKano 326.897 21 LordKano 41,18%
Code:
Famitsu Jarod McCh LordKano Kanann Yeshua Chris1964 Yagami_SamDarkLordMa noshten Hellraider noobie Daphnes No DKHF astrogamer ethomaz Dolgan Eolz Bruno MB
[PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue 167.688 120.000 105.000 130.000 100.000 123.456 133.000 111.111 190.000 115.000 225.000 110.000 131.364 140.000 150.000 135.000 127.000 135.000
[PSV - PS4] Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony 158.855 140.000 80.000 120.000 140.000 123.456 112.345 122.222 120.000 130.000 104.000 100.000 125.467 110.000 130.000 120.000 121.000 115.000
[PS4] Gravity Rush 2 85.813 80.000 50.000 68.000 50.000 56.789 55.000 66.666 40.000 70.000 55.000 65.000 63.623 60.000 50.000 70.000 74.000 60.000
[3DS] Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World 72.899 40.000 40.000 51.000 60.000 56.789 39.000 77.777 100.000 50.000 40.000 120.000 51.616 65.000 50.000 40.000 69.000 55.000
[PS4 - PSV] Valkyria Revolution 75.454 60.000 50.000 39.000 70.000 43.210 34.900 55.555 45.000 50.000 67.000 60.000 56.373 49.000 50.000 60.000 86.000 75.000
[PS4] Resident Evil 7: biohazard 231.188 200.000 140.000 280.000 200.000 321.098 322.666 177.777 250.000 250.000 176.000 247.000 232.348 210.000 300.000 310.000 212.000 275.000
TOTAL ABS. DIFF. 151.897 326.897 201.521 171.897 246.919 277.942 190.545 183.347 164.521 239.521 215.723 133.426 157.897 199.521 214.521 123.989 164.521
MEAN ERROR % 21,03% 41,18% 27,86% 22,06% 31,03% 37,61% 22,55% 29,47% 23,55% 30,80% 31,27% 20,59% 22,07% 27,56% 27,01% 14,91% 20,21%
casiopao horuhe vaporeon Kenzodielocke
137.000 143.697 120.000 100.000
130.000 118.845 98.000 87.000
51.000 68.452 44.000 55.000
84.000 71.496 50.000 44.000
56.000 74.874 69.000 52.000
171.000 194.302 250.000 218.000
185.099 120.231 198.521 235.897
24,01% 13,06% 27,26% 32,99%
Code:
STATISTICS Famitsu GAF_AVG UNDER OVER MIN MAX CLOSEST BY
[PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue 167.688 133.081 90% 10% 105.000 225.000 150.000 ethomaz
[PSV - PS4] Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony 158.855 115.367 100% 0% 80.000 140.000 140.000 Jarod McChicken
[PS4] Gravity Rush 2 85.813 58.627 100% 0% 40.000 80.000 80.000 Jarod McChicken
[3DS] Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World 72.899 60.734 81% 19% 39.000 120.000 71.496 horuhe
[PS4 - PSV] Valkyria Revolution 75.454 57.146 95% 5% 34.900 86.000 75.000 Bruno MB
[PS4] Resident Evil 7: biohazard 231.188 236.860 48% 52% 140.000 322.666 232.348 DKHFcan't wait to see everyone's prediction - it's a bit hard to call especially for titles that don't even have a release date like Splatoon 2 and SMO
You might want to add Monster Hunter XX
To follow-up for a new day, Fire Emblem Heroes is now at #3, and Dissidia is at #64.
In Japan, Super Mario Run was only ever at #3 for one day, and otherwise notably lower than that, so presuming Fire Emblem doesn't completely collapse within the next two days, yes, it will probably exceed Super Mario Run's Japanese LTD within the week.
That said, Fire Emblem is lower in the West by a fair share as of today (#22 in the US for example, whereas Super Mario Run got to #1 and stayed there for a while), that would be a much longer process.
It's a pretty solid early launch. Good chunk of story, modes, and a ton of characters to gacha, so plenty to do and arena play. What will really define it is character events and other such post launch additions. It's solid for now, and actually I find it rather lenient on gacha.
Are there any gacha games that have done particularly well in the west?
Eolz
Member
FEH will definitely be an interesting study case for Nintendo, both in the west and in Japan. Hopefully they do well with events/support...
Wow, I was way closer than I thought! Congrats horuhe!
Wow, I was way closer than I thought! Congrats horuhe!
chromatic9
Member
Ōkami;229537581 said:
Incredible RE6 numbers. If I look at RE5 and other titles like RE4 even combining both PS2 and GC, RE7 sales seem expected given the changes.
It depends how we want to count this.
If we're talking Japanese ones, the leading ones are Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle and Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius, both of which Fire Emblem could very well end up competitive with.
Fire Emblem is at #17 currently, which would be about the same (or a fair bit higher if it actually maintained that position outside of launch/events).
However, you could probably argue stuff like Madden Mobile and Clash Roayle to be gacha games, at which point they're astronomically successful.
I remember seeing The Witcher 3 Goty at 70k in Dengeki before the holidays, it's likely close to 100k now, the original version sold 195.000 per Media Create, digital should be above 25k.
From Witcher 2 to Witcher 3 the series went from 6k to +300k, from a series with no presense to one of the biggest games on PS4 and Spike Chunsoft's second best selling game, behind their Attack on Titan 3DS game.
Put it with Rainbow Six: Siege and Grand Theft Auto V as one of the big success stories on PS4, I'd very much expect for it to be release as a PlayStation 4 the Best game or something at some point in the future.
From Witcher 2 to Witcher 3 the series went from 6k to +300k, from a series with no presense to one of the biggest games on PS4 and Spike Chunsoft's second best selling game, behind their Attack on Titan 3DS game.
Put it with Rainbow Six: Siege and Grand Theft Auto V as one of the big success stories on PS4, I'd very much expect for it to be release as a PlayStation 4 the Best game or something at some point in the future.
Moor-Angol
Banned
So sales-age is teaching me that PS4 is almost a failure, most of its brands are slowing down if not dropping.
Strange that any mention has been made to nintendo system, where MH is not selling anymore as much as it did on PSP, or most of N brands are slowing down from DS/Wii times (except for Animal Crossing, the only title which managed the sacred 5mln milestone from the good old DayS)
but apparently this is nothing new: for years I read here that vita is doomed (but it's still on the market, Wii U was not luck as well), and now of course it's better focusing on dooming PS4 to prepare the glory days of Switch.
Strange that any mention has been made to nintendo system, where MH is not selling anymore as much as it did on PSP, or most of N brands are slowing down from DS/Wii times (except for Animal Crossing, the only title which managed the sacred 5mln milestone from the good old DayS)
but apparently this is nothing new: for years I read here that vita is doomed (but it's still on the market, Wii U was not luck as well), and now of course it's better focusing on dooming PS4 to prepare the glory days of Switch.
theprodigy
Member
17th in the US is still impressive considering the brand is still niche in the West. I guess Fates already proved there's a high amount of whales though!
Well if there's any country outside Japan I'd expect it to do relatively well in, it's the US (cause the IP is notably weaker in Europe).
Eolz
Member
I'm not sure what is a joke post or not anymore on this forum...
Well we could solve the problem by talking about every game/ip/console/environment/genre/whatever underperforming in every post that way no one will be hurt.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
I think we already do. I'm sure we'll be taking about DQ joker 3 professional underperformance soon enough.
Day 3:
Fire Emblem: Still #3 in Japan, has gotten to #8 in the US. While Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle has hit #4 in the US on two separate occasions, it's only ever been at #8 on three separate occasions, with everything else being notably lower than that. Fire Emblem may end up as the strongest Japanese gacha game in the West in the long term, though we'll obviously need to see how it does during events and off-event periods.
Dissidia has moved up to #55, which for a launch still really isn't very impressive. The user ratings are also way worse than Fire Emblem, so I wouldn't hold my breath on this game becoming a big performer anytime soon even if it settles into moderate success.
Sensor Tower made some Day 1 estimates of Fire Emblem's success. It's worth noting that they actually underestimated Super Mario Run's download count by 15 million (they had it at 25 million in the time period Apple had it at 40 million), so these are quite possibly lower than reality:
So far I've been very impressed with Nintendo's first real mobile f2p effort and am interested in seeing how it evolves. Similarly, I'm curious to see exactly what Animal Crossing is, since that's a somewhat harder pitch given current market trends, but still has potential.
Re: Negativity, I think the fundamentals of the market suggest that the incentives for publishers are still to invest in mobile, Asia, and/or the West, and that will continue to put negative pressure on Sony and Nintendo's dedicated device businesses domestically.
The short explanation of this is that companies who are invested in a declining business trim back their offerings to their most successful products (see Capcom focusing on products like Monster Hunter and Ace Attorney for the local Japanese market) while spending the rest of their resources on growth markets, or at least markets with notably more success. The exception to this is when the company feels they're unlikely to have success in any other (more successful) business, so they may end up even increasing their investment in the existing business. This is quite rare though, and is primarily true of companies who don't define the market or heavily impact its success. Since people ultimately buy hardware to play games, this lowers the amount of people who want to buy hardware, which in turn incentivizes publishers to keep investing elsewhere. Similarly, even if hardware sales are maintained, consumers may end up buying way less software if there's notably less that interests them, which again causes publishers to invest elsewhere. We've certainly seen devices where hardware sales were looking okay, but their cumulative software sales were way down overall.
Unless people think there's something that will cause very significant growth in the Japanese dedicated market, or make mobile, Asia, and the West vastly less attractive to Japanese publishers, that pressure is unlikely to go away, which will cause the dedicated devices in the industry to have increasingly bad results overall, even if individual products or years look better than their most recent comparison point. Could that happen? Sure, but I don't think there's much at the moment to suggest that's likely, so I don't think it's weird that people would be negative. You can simply look at the sales results of almost every major series, along with the overall market shrinking to the size it was in the late 1980s, to notice what impact this has been having on the market.
If you don't like negativity in a thread about a declining market, then you'd probably be better off just reading game OTs and articles about how awesome this year's crop of Japanese games are. I'm sure you'll find much more positivity there.
Fire Emblem: Still #3 in Japan, has gotten to #8 in the US. While Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle has hit #4 in the US on two separate occasions, it's only ever been at #8 on three separate occasions, with everything else being notably lower than that. Fire Emblem may end up as the strongest Japanese gacha game in the West in the long term, though we'll obviously need to see how it does during events and off-event periods.
Dissidia has moved up to #55, which for a launch still really isn't very impressive. The user ratings are also way worse than Fire Emblem, so I wouldn't hold my breath on this game becoming a big performer anytime soon even if it settles into moderate success.
Sensor Tower made some Day 1 estimates of Fire Emblem's success. It's worth noting that they actually underestimated Super Mario Run's download count by 15 million (they had it at 25 million in the time period Apple had it at 40 million), so these are quite possibly lower than reality:
So far I've been very impressed with Nintendo's first real mobile f2p effort and am interested in seeing how it evolves. Similarly, I'm curious to see exactly what Animal Crossing is, since that's a somewhat harder pitch given current market trends, but still has potential.
Re: Negativity, I think the fundamentals of the market suggest that the incentives for publishers are still to invest in mobile, Asia, and/or the West, and that will continue to put negative pressure on Sony and Nintendo's dedicated device businesses domestically.
The short explanation of this is that companies who are invested in a declining business trim back their offerings to their most successful products (see Capcom focusing on products like Monster Hunter and Ace Attorney for the local Japanese market) while spending the rest of their resources on growth markets, or at least markets with notably more success. The exception to this is when the company feels they're unlikely to have success in any other (more successful) business, so they may end up even increasing their investment in the existing business. This is quite rare though, and is primarily true of companies who don't define the market or heavily impact its success. Since people ultimately buy hardware to play games, this lowers the amount of people who want to buy hardware, which in turn incentivizes publishers to keep investing elsewhere. Similarly, even if hardware sales are maintained, consumers may end up buying way less software if there's notably less that interests them, which again causes publishers to invest elsewhere. We've certainly seen devices where hardware sales were looking okay, but their cumulative software sales were way down overall.
Unless people think there's something that will cause very significant growth in the Japanese dedicated market, or make mobile, Asia, and the West vastly less attractive to Japanese publishers, that pressure is unlikely to go away, which will cause the dedicated devices in the industry to have increasingly bad results overall, even if individual products or years look better than their most recent comparison point. Could that happen? Sure, but I don't think there's much at the moment to suggest that's likely, so I don't think it's weird that people would be negative. You can simply look at the sales results of almost every major series, along with the overall market shrinking to the size it was in the late 1980s, to notice what impact this has been having on the market.
If you don't like negativity in a thread about a declining market, then you'd probably be better off just reading game OTs and articles about how awesome this year's crop of Japanese games are. I'm sure you'll find much more positivity there.
frankie_baby
Member
Ōkami;229724728 said:
While obviously shipment numbers will play a big part I'm hopeful we could see a better start for switch software than we did wiiu
Obliterator
Member
FE Heroes seems to be doing very well for itself. Great game so happy to see it
Whoa Witcher 3 has crossed 300k in Japan? That is damn impressive
Ōkami;229677410 said:
Whoa Witcher 3 has crossed 300k in Japan? That is damn impressive
Still 4 weeks until launch...
Sorry, i forgot my question mark, was enquiring as to what people thought as i don't know much about the comgnet numbers and their correlation to actual sales.
Eolz
Member
Great post, thanks for the insight!
Ōkami;229724728 said:
Seems relatively decent for a launch? (Zelda is doing great)
Jon Carter
Member
Why would they be?
MVP is probably not quite correct because EPD is the one with the biggest brands but at least recently Intelligent Systems seem to be much more productive and consistent.
I feel like Colour Splash was much better received than Star Fox at least.
The real argument against it is Codename STEAM but that was at least a good game even if it bombed.
I still think that there is a market for dedicated gaming, just because of the wide diversity dedicated systems can offer. You will never be able to play something like monster hunter or metal gear on a mobile (properly). The problem that needs to be solved is convenience. I think Nintendos direction in this area is smart and I hope it works out for them but there has to be a sort of middle way to success here. Mobile is just way too limited. I dont see many publishers making bank on it either. Its too crowded.
How big are they? Wiki has 141 employees as of 2016. Cause they seem to get out games at a crazy pace.
From 2012:
Sticker Star
FE Awakening
Game and Wario
Pushmo games
S.T.E.AM.
FE Fates
Paper Mario
FE 2017
FE 2018
now imagine if the Paper Marios were actually good. That'd be an elite-tier half a decade.
thestopsign
Member
Intelligent Systems have had better 5-year spans than that in my opinion. 2001-2005 they were non-stop amazing.
Paper Mario
Pokémon Puzzle Challenge
Mario Kart: Super Circuit
Advance Wars
Cubivore: Survival of the Fittest[e]
Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising
Fire Emblem
WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
WarioWare: Touched![f]
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
WarioWare: Twisted![f]
Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance[g]
I think only shot this has, at current barring Martian/Divine/Alternative intervention, would be for Nintendo's mobile-console loop strategy to work out. But even there that'd be more of a "maintaining the current population" than anything because a single party cannot really keep the entire market afloat indefinitely (and it eventually spirals into a chocking/stagnating monopoly if such a thing were to happen) while Sony has more or less peaced out of Japan and left third parties to build the tombstone for the local market.... though I don't even know if we should consider Japan a "local" market for the gaming division anymore.
Perhaps ironically, while it did work with Pokemon GO to a very unexpected (seemingly by everyone and in magnitude) degree and we've seen spikes in Mario titles on the 3DS/Wii (lolWiiU) after Run, this affect has been more pronounced in the West where Pokemon utterly exploded following the GO craze but in Japan it just kept flatish but down in the end anyway. Fire Emblem has been resonating in the West as well, and I wouldn't be surprised if FEHeroes does a similar boost for older games and we see Gaiden take a healthy uptick in sales.
Switch may or may not be a necessary step in this since the 3DS in Japan is saturated and old, and mobile has completely consumed much of the gaming audience. But its price is going to be prohibitive until the DSLite-like revisions hit (fittingly, I was talking with some fellows today who saw the Switch like the DSFat... a more elegant one but filling a similar early on role). But again this would be almost entirely a preservation of audience rather than an expansion as there's only so far Nintendo can reach on its own, and the casual market has been all but lost and all that remains is a diminishing crop.
This point of view comes from the older generation of console gamers, where "proper" games are in the console space. There's an entire generation of gamers who begin on phone and couldn't care less about console's offerings.
I agree about the mobile market being crowded, though. With Nintendo and Sony entering in full force, and the top spots are crowded by titles from already big IPs, I wonder if there are any place for middle-tier developers.
BronzeWolf
Banned
Ōkami;229724728 said:
So how many units are we expecting from this?
Disgaea bomba?
Fits well with Kojima's take that Switch is an intermediate step toward consumers having the convenience of playing games on mobile (as gateway drug) and being able to seamlessly switch to TV/bigger screen tablets/VR versions of the games. Keyword being convenience, it must be easy for people to grasp and do. In that regard it's indeed worrying that Sony is currently essentially doing the opposite, pushing for home console only development while their mobile efforts are in a completely different department. The effect of the Playstation HQ now being situated in the US is felt there.
Week 6, 2017 (Feb 6 - Feb 12)
new releases
{2017.02.08}
[PS4] Double Dragon IV _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nihon Falcom) (¥740)
{2017.02.09}
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - Professional <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥5.250)
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - Professional (ε _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥5.250)
[PSV] Nidhogg _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥1.000)
[PSV] Back to Bed _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥1.000)
[PSV] Samurai Warriors 4-II [Koei Tecmo the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥2.980)
[PSV] Samurai Warriors 4-II (ε _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| [Koei Tecmo the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥2.980)
[PS4] Nioh <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.800)
[PS4] Nioh (ε _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.020)
[PS4] Yonmegami Online: Cyber Dimension Neptune # <RPG> (Compile Heart) (¥7.200)
[PS4] Yonmegami Online: Cyber Dimension Neptune (Royal Edition) <RPG> (Compile Heart) (¥9.700)
[PS4] Yonmegami Online: Cyber Dimension Neptune (ε _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Compile Heart) (¥6.400)
[PS4] Nidhogg _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥1.000)
[PS4] Back to Bed _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥1.000)
[PS4] Emily Wants to Play _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥1.000)
[PS4] Samurai Warriors 4-II [Koei Tecmo the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥3.480)
[PS4] Samurai Warriors 4-II (ε _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| [Koei Tecmo the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥3.480)
[PS3] Back to Bed _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥1.000)
[PS3] Samurai Warriors 4-II (ε _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| [Koei Tecmo the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥2.980)
{2017.02.10}
[PS4] Malicious Fallen _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Alvion) (¥3.333)
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YSO predictions
01. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - Professional < 95k (average 85k)
02. [PS4] Nioh < 40k (average 30k)
03. [PS4] Yonmegami Online: Cyber Dimension Neptune < 35k (average 25k)
new releases
{2017.02.08}
[PS4] Double Dragon IV _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nihon Falcom) (¥740)
{2017.02.09}
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - Professional <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥5.250)
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - Professional (ε
_Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥5.250)[PSV] Nidhogg _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥1.000)
[PSV] Back to Bed _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥1.000)
[PSV] Samurai Warriors 4-II [Koei Tecmo the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥2.980)
[PSV] Samurai Warriors 4-II (ε
_PS Store Download Version_ |DL| [Koei Tecmo the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥2.980)[PS4] Nioh <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.800)
[PS4] Nioh (ε
_PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.020)[PS4] Yonmegami Online: Cyber Dimension Neptune # <RPG> (Compile Heart) (¥7.200)
[PS4] Yonmegami Online: Cyber Dimension Neptune (Royal Edition) <RPG> (Compile Heart) (¥9.700)
[PS4] Yonmegami Online: Cyber Dimension Neptune (ε
_PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Compile Heart) (¥6.400)[PS4] Nidhogg _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥1.000)
[PS4] Back to Bed _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥1.000)
[PS4] Emily Wants to Play _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥1.000)
[PS4] Samurai Warriors 4-II [Koei Tecmo the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥3.480)
[PS4] Samurai Warriors 4-II (ε
_PS Store Download Version_ |DL| [Koei Tecmo the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥3.480)[PS3] Back to Bed _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥1.000)
[PS3] Samurai Warriors 4-II (ε
_PS Store Download Version_ |DL| [Koei Tecmo the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥2.980){2017.02.10}
[PS4] Malicious Fallen _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Alvion) (¥3.333)
___
YSO predictions
01. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - Professional < 95k (average 85k)
02. [PS4] Nioh < 40k (average 30k)
03. [PS4] Yonmegami Online: Cyber Dimension Neptune < 35k (average 25k)
Kazuo Hirai
I really want everyone to know how much more Titanfall 2 sold than Nioh. It was a staggering amount.
Even UK could sell more Nioh than Japan
At least Koei Tecmo gets to work on Fire Emblem.
On a serious note they better hope the Sony publishing deal works out in international markets because Ni-Oh is probably one of their most expensive projects ever.
EDIT: It's being really well received by the looks of it which is a good sign.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Games like Nioh, NieR, Ni no Kuni II, etc... all seem to be focusing on what will/may come from outside of Japan. Japan just seems like the extra chump change more than anything else.
Primethius
Banned
It's a good strategy too. There's not much point in pinning hopes on Japan for some of these series so it's just better not too. It's just a smaller, less relevant market than it used to be.