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Media Create Sales: Week 48, 2011 (Nov 28 - Dec 04)

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
OVER 1000 posts in a Media Create thread!!!
Finally!!!

500k would be a very good start for MH3G, considering all the shipment situation.
 
I'd say about 2/3rd of the 1.1 million 3DSs sold since the MH announcement are hardcore MH fans pre-buying the system for the launch, in which case the built-in minimum fanbase the game could've done day-one would've been around 720k.
 

Alrus

Member
I forgot about it. DQ for 3DS was implicitly confirmed when they showed DQX, right? I remember them saying something about transferring stuff or such

Nothing is confirmed right now but the 3DS got Slime Mori Mori 3, is getting the Terry's wonderland remake and there's rumor about it getting a DQ VII remake... That's the same kind of support the DS got before DQ IX.
 

Oxx

Member
That Slime game and the next Dragon Quest Monsters being on 3DS might be a good indication.

With DQX and DQM emerging in 2012, Horii has plenty of time to see how things shape-up before committing DQXI to a platform.
 

Dalthien

Member
Capcom expects to ship 1.2 million copies of 3G by the end of March 2012.

So they were probably assuming slow but steady sales up until that date, rather than a (relatively) big first week. Under those circumstances I can see why they would have only shipped 420k copies without a second shipment immediately on hand. Don't think it was a supply line issue either, because we've known about the low first shipment for weeks now.

Nah - preorders (at least based on comg, which is a decent indicator for a series like MH) were considerably higher than those for MH3. And MH3 opened with more than 500k, so it was clear that an initial shipment of 420k was way too low.

For whatever reason (feel free to speculate), Capcom purposely chose to keep shipments too low for opening week.
 
A 100 years ago, you could use basic capacity for reason and you could apply information from observation to draw conclusions that it was impossible to walk on the moon.

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear enough there: that line of argument was insane and I'm not going to engage with it. :p

I could be wrong about this multiplatform situation of course

Your position has been based on getting it into your head that the situation for MH is exactly equivalent to your average Western online shooter on PS3/360, and no other information will sway you, even as you admit that you don't really know anything about the franchise, how people play it, or why it sells! This is the worst kind of devil's-advocate argumentation and it applies exactly equivalently to any ridiculous new approach that "hasn't been tried."
 
Nah - preorders (at least based on comg, which is a decent indicator for a series like MH) were considerably higher than those for MH3. And MH3 opened with more than 500k, so it was clear that an initial shipment of 420k was way too low.

For whatever reason (feel free to speculate), Capcom purposely chose to keep shipments too low for opening week.

So they could do a massive shipment on the day the Vita launches, as kind of a "Yeah, don't bother MH fans." move?
Only reason I can think of.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
Woah, that's bigger than MH3's first day, right? And on a much smaller installed base.

520k day 1 MH3 sales on Wii installed base of about 17-18m

Went on to sell around 800k total.

Sound familiar? ;)

That would mean it was moving at a similar pace to MH3.

Yes, yes it would!

Also - i doubt there's anything Vita related in the sales strategy. It's Capcom's biggest game of the year, and in the xmas period. That's the driver.

Yeah, that would put it close to 800K already, and we know from our resident psychic, DCHarile, that it won't go over 800K lifetime.

I've not bought a copy because i KNOW they're going to print another 500k copies and sell about a further 150k. I'll bin dive it just like i did MHTri!
I bought the Jpn version day 1, i bought the US version day 1 ;)
 

Alrus

Member
520k day 1 MH3 sales on Wii installed base of about 17-18m

Went on to sell around 800k total.

Sound familiar? ;)

It sold around 1.1 millions actually and the Wii install base was nowhere near that big. Why do you keep this up? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about...
 

cvxfreak

Member

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
MH3 did 560k in its first two days, not in just one day.

And... it's at almost 1.1 million now.

DCCHARLIE NOT SO GOOD AT REMEMBERING THINGS.

P.S. I've chechked one thing: what get6-2 said in occasion of MH3 release.
In that case, we had 400k of FD as forecast. So, this time, an even better first day...without the right shipment :(
 

cvxfreak

Member
It would be utterly hilarious if DCharlie's 800K prediction was based on false information all along.

I love you man, but why must you continue doing this? :(
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
MH3 did 560k in its first two days, not in just one day.

And... it's at almost 1.1 million now.

DCCHARLIE NOT SO GOOD AT REMEMBERING THINGS.

1.1 million after only how long in the 980 yen bargain bins? This is Wollan's Next Gen picture style victory.

This time capcom will go cautious on that second printing - you can always reprint if the demand isn't there (this is a serious point)

It would be utterly hilarious if DCharlie's 800K prediction was based on false information all along.

I love you man, but why must you continue doing this? :(

the only difference between me and you guys is i believe something different. Neither of us know what's going to happen, so let's not start ! ;)
For me , next week when you're all wondering why it's not sold another 500k copies is going to be the most fun! ;)

RE: Sinobi :

Sinobi notes that Capcom likely had sales of Wii's Monster Hunter 3 in mind when coming up with these shipment figures. MH3 sold 540,000 units in its first two days. However, the game was so heavily shipped that retailers quickly slashed its price. Eventually, the game sold over 800,000 units, but many of those sales came at lower pricing.

No Data being used here - it's a finger in the sky USE THE FORCE thing.
 
1.1 million after only how long in the 980 yen bargain bins? This is Wollan's Next Gen picture style victory.

This time capcom will go cautious on that second printing - you can always reprint if the demand isn't there (this is a serious point)



the only difference between me and you guys is i believe something different. Neither of us know what's going to happen, so let's not start ! ;)
For me , next week when you're all wondering why it's not sold another 500k copies is going to be the most fun! ;)

And yet you keep stating your predictions as fact...
 

cvxfreak

Member
the only difference between me and you guys is i believe something different. Neither of us know what's going to happen, so let's not start ! ;)
For me , next week when you're all wondering why it's not sold another 500k copies is going to be the most fun! ;)

Well, your prediction is fine and all, but you didn't reference your data correctly. That's what I'm referring to.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
And yet you keep stating your predictions as fact...

... i really need to put IMO at the end of every sentence now?

Well, your prediction is fine and all, but you didn't reference your data correctly. That's what I'm referring to.

if you look, we're clearly getting sinobi info from different places. We were here - we saw exactly what happened with Wii MH3 - it's going to be a factor this time in how Capcom approach this coupled with the user base. Even aiming for 1.2m units on an installed base of 3m (will grow of course) is pretty aggressive. Again, then we get into -my- belief that the PSP user base may not jump ship for a G revision. The will if MH4 remains 3DS and no word of PSP/Vita game.
 

cvxfreak

Member
... i really need to put IMO at the end of every sentence now?



if you look, we're clearly getting sinobi info from different places. We were here - we saw exactly what happened with Wii MH3 - it's going to be a factor this time in how Capcom approach this coupled with the user base. Even aiming for 1.2m units on an installed base of 3m (will grow of course) is pretty aggressive. Again, then we get into -my- belief that the PSP user base may not jump ship for a G revision. The will if MH4 remains 3DS and no word of PSP/Vita game.

Your prediction isn't wrong (yet) and you've explained your reasoning. What confused a few people were the "17-18m Wii userbase," "520K day one," and the "around 800K total" comments. Are we supposed to dive into your brain and try to figure out what you're actually saying? Just admit you conveyed the data wrong and we can all move on...

Either way, we're all just poking fun at you (well I am, anyway). We'll see in the next few weeks how things turn out.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
Your prediction isn't wrong (yet) and you've explained your reasoning. What confused a few people were the "17-18m Wii userbase," "520K day one," and the "around 800K total" comments. Are we supposed to dive into your brain and try to figure out what you're actually saying? Just admit you conveyed the data wrong and we can all move on...

Either way, we're all just poking fun at you (well I am, anyway). We'll see in the next few weeks how things turn out.

well, yes - i could swear the "sold out" part of my memory was right on the Wii but clearly it wasn't. However, as pointed out above and elsewhere, that's not particular part of my guestimating 800k

Bear in mind, i'm poking you guys too - WHEN this comes true, you're all going to have to bow down to my prediction WIZARDRY!

Just to clear it up - i think the reasoning that "omg it's MH!!!!!1111" alone is missing the point and it's in no way a guaranteed to sell of the chart numbers (or - in your case - think every 3DS sale since the announcement is the PSP user base "flocking" to the 3DS! ;) )

Either way - AREN'T YOU ENTERTAINED?!

again - i'm going to be right on both. *pre-smug-victory-birdmanhandrub*

again - do you need me to add IMO to that?
 
What is the deal with this thread anyway, are people actually surprised if the game managed to sell over 500k in a week? The only thing limiting the game was how many units were shipped, no new Monster Hunter title released at retail in the past 4 years has sold under that amount besides the 360 MMO.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Here's an interesting tidbit from Get6-2:

http://ameblo.jp/get6-2/archive35-200908.html#main

He/she predicted that MH3 on Wii sold 400K on day one, which sounds correct.
He/she mentioned that NSMB Wii's initial 1 million shipment would be gone by the weekend. That game debuted at 940K.

Get6-2 has a pretty good track record from what I can see.

You're old

MH3 did 560k in its first two days, not in just one day.

And... it's at almost 1.1 million now.

DCCHARLIE NOT SO GOOD AT REMEMBERING THINGS.

P.S. I've chechked one thing: what get6-2 said in occasion of MH3 release.
In that case, we had 400k of FD as forecast. So, this time, an even better first day...without the right shipment :(

...just for the get6-2 mention :p
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
300k first day sales, 140k second week, 40k third week, 20k for a few weeks, then bomba bucket to 800k. I should be sitting on my throne of winnage around Feb i think. Probably just around the time of the MH4th Announcement for PSP (HD for PS3/PSV).
You can start queuing for ringkissing late jan! ;)

You already said yesterday that judging from the size of lines MH3G bombed and this post will hunt you entire December.

It's amazing you expect a drop from 140k to 40k the biggest week of the year.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
You already said yesterday that judging from the size of lines MH3G bombed and this post will hunt you entire December.

i have to say that yesterday was the most bizarre day i've had in years. I wandered the streets in the middle of the night from about 1:30 am until about 8am.

I managed to miss all the queues - when i hit yodo aki there was about 40 people (no great shakes) and SIX people outside Sofmap - they were having an awesome mini party though.

I called it a day there and went back to Shibuya where i was expecting at about 7:10 to still see queues but it was already all over.

Seeing the pictures of the queues did make me feel a bit of a wazzak. Again though, it's wasn't the sort of launch madness i've seen for other games, but then i guess the other games were DQ, MH3P, FF so a fair order of magnitude size difference.

Anyways, nothing will hunt/hurt me - i'll simply regroup infront of your eyes for MH4 doom prediction. Sort of like an internet version of Terminator 2.

It's amazing you expect a drop from 140k to 40k the biggest week of the year.

Front. loaded. demand. My entire theory is based on only a percentage of MH3P fans switching over and the demand -already- largely being met because i doubt traditional Nintendo fans care coupled with the requirement of a new platform to buy into.
Again - there's nothing amazing about that - it's just you guys theory of what will happen vs. mine.
 
I could easily see if capcom get enough stock out there (which they probably won't) monster hunter actually increasing every week til the end of the year
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
I could easily see if capcom get enough stock out there (which they probably won't) monster hunter actually increasing every week til the end of the year

okay - so out of curiousity - so what percentage of the 3DS user base do you ultimately expect to purchase MH3G?

Wouldn't this give us total sales at end of year of over 2m ?
 

Laguna

Banned
This pretty much seals the deal for Vita in Japan. But atleast there still is a FFX PS3/Vita multiplatform PS2 port to save the day.
 
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