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Meet the husbands who fly first class – while their wives travel in economy

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And I understand it. I make what I make, she makes what she makes. We pool together to pay all the common bills and what's left is what's left. Why is it my business that she might have an extra 200 bucks and want to spend it on shoes. Same for me and my video games. If we need to save for something we discuss that

I've always thought this was the sensible way of doing it. Make sure all the bills etc are paid by pooling an equivalent amount of money each... and then the rest is to do with as you please.
 

Llyranor

Member
Huh, my SO booked an economy seat for a 10 hr flight when she was going to a conference (even though her company said she could book business) to be next to me (tagging along for vacation).
 

Kenstar

Member
Wow this is the opposite of the guy who traded me his 1st class seat so he could have my empty 3 seat row to sit with his GF
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Those tickets are not transferable.

I don't have this problem because work would just fly me economy anyway,
I doubt VPs take their wifes and kids with them on business trips.
Would have to be in a different line of business.

What we do have is a huge annual trip to an expensive resort such as Bora Bora for our salesmen and VPs. Because our sales are based on a handful of large contracts, the salesmen are seen as directly responsible for the deals while the engineers who build the products and provide the services are just replaceable drones.

That's a bit harsh to ignore the people actually building the products that customers want.
 

riotous

Banned
NeoGAF is a strange place with strange people.

http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/6847264

This study went around last year and I've seen several other references to it (like that poll we had a thread on a week ago.)

Why am I strange for being aware of what some academics say is sexism? I don't personally think it's sexism myself, but I can see where chivalry could be practiced by someone who is sexist and it often has its routes in sexism (women are weak and therefore need coddling.)
 

manueldelalas

Time Traveler
If it works for them, cool. I don't see the necessity of being judgmental about this. Personally, I probably wouldn't do it, but I'm not them.

I also don't get why feminists would get mad.
 

Syriel

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There is a big logical leap from considering earnt income the income of the person who earnt it and saying that on trips together it's everyone for themselves.

I have no problem paying for myself and my partner out my own pocket, my only issue is with an expectation I have to do so, or that any money I earn also belongs to her by default.

If want to treat myself to a little extra luxury, it's my perogative. If I don't have enough to treat both of us, then yes she is going to have to dip into her own pocket.

As I said, shared responsibilites, things that we decide to do together and things we buy for both of our benefit can be shared. But income is personal to the person who earnt it and nobody is entitled to that which they did not help earn in my view.

Marital law says otherwise. Anything earned during the marriage is the equal property of both spouses.

It doesn't matter if "he' earns it or "she" earns it, unless there is a prenup.

Those tickets are not transferable.

Yes they are. Once you're on the plane, the airline don't care.

If Mr X has a seat in first and Mrs Y has a seat in economy, no one on staff is going to care if Mrs Y takes the first seat and Mr X takes the economy seat.
 
Absolutely.

I thought that was the general thinking, but judging by some of the responses here, not as common as I believed.


Every marriage doesn't operate under a system of 100% shared money. Me and my wife have an account for bills and shared expenses such as things for our son but anything that's not in that pot we can do with whatever we like.

I actually do fly quite a bit for work and she does sometimes make the trip if she wants to go but I don't buy the ticket for her. She buys her own ticket.

I do imagine there are exceptions to it, but in general, I thought marriage was considered a partnership and union of, well, fairly much everything. Of course people buy their own things when they want them and I've never considered my husband under any restrictions to buy what he likes (though we always discuss bigger purchases), but if he goes on a business trip and I think it might be fun to come and he wants me to as well, my ticket would be something we agreed upon. He wouldn't be buying it for me or me for myself.


The 2nd one specifically states the husband is there for business for his company and she even acknowledges it's "his" company, "his" money. Hence my question where the wife seems to accept it, why the outrage. Even mentioning, she is tagging along for just a vacation at the end of his business trip.

So it is the husband who is playing from what the article said....

That's where I find it weird. "His" company, "his" money. That doesn't sound very much like a partnership to me to cordon off something pretty integral like income. I don't earn money or invest in things thinking this is mine and my husband isn't part of the equation. As for the 'tagging along' for vacation, does he want her to come? As I said in my post before, presumably it's a decision they made together unless she's just going to the same location and not doing anything with him at all, which would be...unlikely.

you should work harder so you can afford it :p

That certainly seems to be the way people are thinking in this thread a bit...


It's not their money for a business trip, it's Company money and like I said before, most companies don't want you spending their money bringing your SO with you. They pay out of pocket for the SO and the business pay for them. The business can see what the employee spent and if they see two back and forth first class tickets, you better believe they won't have to worry about trips anymore.

Because, presumably, they have both decided that she should join him. No one's asking the business to pay for her ticket, but if they've decided to tack a vacation onto the end of a business trip since one ticket is already paid for, then yeah, it's a joint decision and they can decide how much of their own money they want to spend for her to join. As I said, if they've decided to save a bit and she's cool with it, then there's no issue. It's the weird relegation to economy because 'he' shouldn't have to buy her a ticket with 'his' money. Doesn't sound like a marriage to me.
 

Darksol

Member
If it works for them, cool. I don't see the necessity of being judgmental about this. Personally, I probably wouldn't do it, but I'm not them.

I also don't get why feminists would get mad.

You don't get why feminists might be a little miffed at the women being in coach while the men are given preferential treatment?

Think about it for a minute or two. It should be obvious as to why it might make them mad :p
 

Menchi

Member
So wait, the article states that feminists will be in an uproar because of this, but surely it's down to the women themselves to make the purchase/upgrade?

If I were planning a holiday with my partner, and I wanted 1st class, I'd pay for myself and I'd expect him to do the same. Sure, I could stay in economy with him but I don't see the problem in being seperate if it were that important. I'm just not sure why I'd be expected to pay for him to upgrade or vice versa. We're both adults with our own finances.
 

Magni

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I can understand not buying a ticket in first for your spouse to save money, but in that case, give her the first class seat on the return flight!

I sleep on my wife's shoulder on flights, more comfortable than business
not really, but cosier anyways
1) The husband might need to rush to an important meeting.

2) People who do a lot of business travels sometime want to hide the fact that they're bringing a SO other along. So it's not uncommon to have separate travel arrangements to the same destination.

An older coworker of mine got caught by accounting once and they gave him hell + wanted the SO's portion of room service/hotel amenities refunded.

Another friend of mine does something similar cause he's gay and can't afford to have his coworkers find out.

Where does your coworker live? It's 2016 :/
 
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