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Wow I've became homeless much quicker than I expected.
Only downhill from here.
Only downhill from here.
What happened?Wow I've became homeless much quicker than I expected.
Only downhill from here.
ive have had the same experience.Had to partner up in class, and no one near me would be my partner. I just had to sit there awkwardly alone. I guess I'm too repulsive to have as a partner. People literally went out of their way to avoid me.
I'd cry about it, but I'm too dead inside to care anymore.
Over the last few years, I feel that I've been making some positive strides: after having to step down from my position as a newspaper editor following my second breakdown, I was out of work for a year. This forced me to move home with my parents at the age of 27, which only further depressed me.
What caused your breakdowns?
The way things are going now financially for me is really relieving the tremendous amount of stress that it put on me. I feel like I can finally breath again and enjoy my life. I can finally start saving up money and helping those I love. I know it sounds like I am tying my happiness to money and I don't mean to it was really my mother and her situation that did it now that I have her sorted out I have no worries and can focus on myself and not on them.
Rant all you want we are here to listen,shame about your relationship but things get weird long distance, something special was going on if you lasted two years like that,I've been putting off posting in this thread for a while now, but I think now is a good time.
No i dont think people go out of their way to avoid you Pample, show them you are smart and funny and a likeable person to be around they will come in no time.Had to partner up in class, and no one near me would be my partner. I just had to sit there awkwardly alone. I guess I'm too repulsive to have as a partner. People literally went out of their way to avoid me.
I'd cry about it, but I'm too dead inside to care anymore.
Do you feel lonely because your brothers arent at home? how is the relationship with your family?One brother went to Disneyland, other 2 went camping, mom went to her friends and dad is at work who earlier this week yelled at me only because I was answering a text. Also called me a gay fat guy. I'm breaking apart.
I never felt so alone since...last week.
Do you feel lonely because your brothers arent at home? how is the relationship with your family?
Thanks, Subby. I hope all is well with you.No i dont think people go out of their way to avoid you Pample, show them you are smart and funny and a likeable person to be around they will come in no time. And never take class work so seriously, even less as a way to think you are repulsive.
Good for you. Exposure really is the best treatment.I have terrible social anxiety and depression that I'm on a whole whack of medication for, along with weekly psychiatrist appointments (thank god for my Universities health care)
Anyway, I voluntarily answered a teachers question in my class on Friday for the first time ever possibly? No one ever answers him and I felt I knew the answer. Of course, I was wrong. I still don't fully understand, but I knew the answer he was looking for so corrected myself. I felt kind of silly afterwards being wrong, but kind of proud that I tried.
5 minutes later... Several other people raise their hand asking why my original answer wasn't correct. He tried to explain to them for a few minutes, and when that didn't work looked at me and asked me to elaborate. I said a short few words trying to explain it. He then tried to explain it more and lots of people were still confused. As class ended a couple people nearby turned to me to ask if I could explain why it was the second answer, and I just kind of laughed and said that I knew there were only two options mathematically, and if my first was wrong, it had to be the second. We had a short talk afterwards about why it was so confusing, and we all had the same (apparently mis-)understanding on why it should have been my original answer.
Felt good about myself afterwards, doing something I'd never normally consider doing, and knowing that I wasn't the only one who got super confused when I was wrong.
I've also managed to find groups and go to group meetings for all my projects that are required by using the course provided discussion boards. I might actually graduate next semester if I keep on top of my anxiety, and keep going to group stuff (as that is really all that is left).
Not a good sign when deep family issues could be the cause of loneliness and depression, i hope you find professional help soon.Splintered, I only talk to mom more but even that is going away
just dont let your depression say what to think of yourself or what others think, believe me i struggled with finding teams to work on school and a lot of anxiety for years,and thats something that never truly left, but you have the capacity to overcome those feelings and might be surprised how people respond.Thanks, Subby. I hope all is well with you.
Hey man, I can relate to a lot of what your post describes and I'm sorry to hear how rough you've been feeling.
I worked at a call centre from July 2014 to August 2015 and while it was inbound call based rather than outbound, I think I can imagine fairly accurately what you mean when you describe your fears, anxieties and lack of enthusiasm. I didn't believe I had the skillset to perform that kind of work either (especially considering I was socially isolated for a year leading up to starting there) but you might be surprised at how quickly you pick things up, even if you are still faking it at the end of the day. I believed I was terrible for the majority of my time there, to the point that I'd hang up on at least a few customers everyday out of dread, despite being told in every meeting with my manager that I was one of the highest performing agents. What I'm trying to say is, you're not alone. You may look at some of your co-workers and get the impression they are completely comfortable, but I'm sure many of them have their doubts too.
I had a breakdown one morning and physically couldn't allow myself to put on my headset. I was sent home, saw a doctor, got time off and was prescribed anti-depressants. Not too long after returning, I handed in my notice as the time away clarified that I couldn't continue. The problem was, by the time the effects of my medication properly kicked in, I was actually starting to become oddly comfortable there. I was getting along with colleagues I'd known for nearly a year and had barely said a word to. I eventually did leave and I've since spent the last 14 months unemployed and once again socially isolated.
I know this post is just a lot of talking about myself, sorry, but due to the similarities in our situations I feel like I at least have some context for my recommendation that you take your anti-depressants and at least wait for those to do their thing (or not) before making any final decisions. It sounds like you've only recently begun working there so I think you should give it a bit more of a chance. I'm not saying you may love the job in a month or two because, let's be honest, you probably won't, but I know that I felt terrible immediately after my last day and over a year later I'm still stuck in a rut.
Now, of course, only you know the full extent of your circumstances and mental state. If it's so dire that you genuinely feel a degradation in your mood day-to-day caused directly by the role and can afford to survive without the job for the time being, then yes, perhaps leaving will be the healthier option in the long run. If you desperately need this job though, I would at least try and stick it out until you know whether your medication is helping or not. You can always search for another job while you're employed there, even if that is the last thing you want to do after a day spent working. Does your manager know that you had the last two days off because of these breakdowns? Is it possible for them to provide more support or help ease you back into the job by only having you on the phone for half the day while you do other work for the rest?
My biggest concern for you, based on my own problems, is that leaving will end up putting you back into a rut similar to the one you said you were in for a long time prior to getting this job. I hope you found something of value in this post but the decision is up to in the end and I don't think anyone should blame you for leaving if it really does make you feel awful. Wishing for all the best for you, man.
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Hey, thanks for your reply.
So, I managed to slog through another week of my call center job, and I decided that I'll probably be quitting tomorrow, after some very hard deliberation over the weekend. Falling into the same rut/feeling like I'm leaving because of the difficulty of the path I have to take to actually improve definitely kept me trying, but at this point I'm kind of absolutely convinced it's just too much. At least I think I am...
It's just too much all at once. I'm 100% aware of everyone around me and the way I'm acting towards them all day long, and me being sat at a single island of desks with 9 other colleagues doesn't make that any easier. The sales people make and my failure to make any are publicly displayed on a big board. Suppressing my nervousness is a constant battle, making sounding enthusiastic and happy while selling people bullshit instead of depressed and bitter a real difficulty, if not straight up impossible. And to make matters worse, the person coaching me tends to either hang over my shoulder for dozens of minutes on end, heightening my anxiety; or hanging over my shoulder while rattling the back of my deskchair while talking with other people for over an hour, which is just worse than the previous thing.
I shouldn't feel bad about quitting at this point, right? I feel as if I should be feeling bad, but surely these are legitimate reasons to try to find something else? I feel like I need someone else to tell me that I'm making the right decision here. I know that the best case scenario would have been to stick this out until they throw me to the curb themselves because of my poor performance, but surely I can't expect "best case scenario" from myself when before this job, I had been a complete social recluse for literally years?
I've been up for several hours wondering - "What's the point of living if I never get to be happy?" I can't stand existence much longer. I've already missed out on my entire life and there's no improvement in sight. Why is suicide irrational in this scenario?
I live in Japan, married for 15 years but spent 8 of those locked up in my room, unable to function or go out into society. That time sent me to the top of the GS leaderboards, but looking back, it feels wasted. 2 years ago I met a lady who was in a similar situation as me, broken, had a history, couldn't go out, and we helped each other. She drew me out of my shell, I saved her from her darkness. I've since divorced.
Recently I've tried to make a go of it, I've opened an english school and have had moderate success. I'm working 7 days a week, mostly in fear of sliding backwards if i stop. I still see her from time to time, and want nothing more than a relationship with her, but she seems incapable of doing so. She still lives in the past, and cant think of a future.
I dont really have any friends here and can't really open up to anyone. My family is thousands of miles away, and all I want to do is cry. I need someone in my life I can talk to. I'm drinking every night as a means of going to sleep, and taking anti-depressants during the day. Not sure how much longer I can keep up the charade before it all comes crashing down.
I dont know what to do, or who to talk to. Language is a problem.
A lot of people wind up suicidal because they can't find any meaning in their lives. Finding meaning in our society now is pretty tough honestly.
I don't think suicide is always irrational. For the vast majority of people who do it, yes, I would say it is because the majority of those who do it do it for temporary problems or a stressor that pops up. Another segment in this camp would be people who do it because of a condition where psychosis is present, and they can't think clearly about anything.
However, this leaves some number, who knows how many, who do so because of tangible lifelong problems, people like me. Unlike people in the irrational camp, they can name their problems, which are pervasive and cannot be changed. All you can do for these people is try to give them coping mechanisms to deal with their perpetual misery, but why should they have to keep suffering? If for these people, things really can't get better, and, indeed they haven't after years, I don't see why they should be forced to live.
Then there's the false assumption that underlies psychiatry in general which is an assumption that you should be happy. If you're unhappy, it must be a problem with your brain chemistry, they say, because you apparently should be happy with the world the way it is. Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the world is utter shit. Should you be happy with the world the way it is? Do we live the best possible way of life? Is what we do now the pinnacle of existence?
The answer is obvious and destroys that basic assumption that something is wrong with you. You aren't wrong for being unhappy. You would only be wrong if we were living truly fulfing, beautiful lives, but we're not.
I stopped taking my meds cold turkey, honestly just because I kept falling asleep without taking them. I'd get really tired while watching TV, turn over and pass out. I should have remembered to take them whenever I'd wake up, but I didn't.
I've been meaning to start again, but I wonder what the point is. I was taking this generic Prozac (Fluoxetine?) for months and it did nothing for me, just like it did nothing the first time I tried it. Even four pills a day didn't.
I still feel the same: tired, depressed, lonely, full of grief and suicidal. All I can think about are the same several things: how much I miss my Mom, how much my life has been wasted and will be pointless, lack of a real income, how bad my Internet is and that I can't do anything about it (seriously, almost 24/7) and dust getting into my electronics.
That's pretty much all I think about, or can think about. Thinking about buying things helps, but I'm trying to get rid of this shopping addiction.
I guess I'll just pass on the pills. What's the point?
Is it possible that anti-depressants just don't work on me? I've tried many.
As for seeing the doctor again: I saw her September 1. She said to book an appointment for 3 months down the road, or so. But when I walked out, the receptionists had gone home for the day and I couldn't. I keep forgetting to call.
Really, though, she doesn't help me.
Well you're not taking them consistently so that may be a problem, but anti-depressants not working in general is also a real possibility.
Have you done any volunteer work? I know it sounds cliche and maybe even counter-intuitive, but you really should try dwelling less on yourself and looking outward. Helping others will in turn make you feel better about yourself. It could also open doors to employment.
Had a pretty bad few months. Found out my cousin who is only 36 is dying of cancer. He is like a brother to me, so to say this has effected my mental health issues is a understatement. Add to that I can't find a job, I am glad I have therapy again next week.
My Dad will get a big pay out when I'm gone, that is, if he took out the policy two or more years ago.Totally my mood right now. Tired of looking and feeling like a huge monster in this world. Best thing i can do for myself and family is to die. they get the life insurance and whatevers in my 401k and i get to not feel and look like a monster anymore. fair trade.
Doc wants me to try 5mg daily of Cipralex. Terrified of what it'll do to me. Suffering from Generalized Anxiety Disorder. It honestly can't get much worse...so maybe the side effects are worth it.
Maybe this is a dumb suggestion, but have you considered just learning to tolerate the anxiety? Maybe it will in turn subside somewhat.
Im not sure suicide is irrational, in fact i say it is pretty rational, ( depending on the circumstance) suicide is such a Taboo in society that sometimes, instead of helping each other to feel a bit better and dont give up we push each other to feel worse about themselves, even when not intentionally.I've been up for several hours wondering - "What's the point of living if I never get to be happy?" I can't stand existence much longer. I've already missed out on my entire life and there's no improvement in sight. Why is suicide irrational in this scenario?
It's severely life-altering. I live in a state of constant mild tension that occasionally spikes into crippling panic attacks. I've left a toxic workplace and dipped the constant tension, but still experience the panics every other day. I've tried tolerating and managing it for six months and haven't made a ton of progress with CBT alone. The psych wants me to try this low dose now and see how I feel.
Anxiety/panic disrupt everything. Your mind is scattered, unfocused, incapable of performing well while panicking, etc. To say it's affected my personal, professional and romantic life is an understatement - it's ravaged them. Temporarily. My partner is awesome though and is standing by me through this.