Magic Carpet
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Trade in PSVR2 AND PS5 for Quest 3, Hold out on Spiderman 2 till PS5 PRO is released.
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Meta Quest 3 releases on October 10.
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Romulus
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I know psvr2 is a slow go atm, but that's a big risk throwing the ps5 in there too. Lots of good games could be coming.
Minsc
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How much do you care about RE4 VR in the coming months? For me, Village was worth the price of admission by itself, and I expect to feel no different about RE4, probably even enjoy it more.
If you don't have a VR capable PC, I'm not sure it'd be the best trade-off, by itself it'll have worse performance, but obviously some benefits too, access to apps/movies/and no wires, better IQ in some ways, but worse graphic settings/quality in others.
It's a tough call, but no way am I missing RE4 VR myself. I do expect to grab a Q3 and finally get my hands on some PC VR exclusives / VR mods and of course Alyx.
alucard0712_rus
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I probably hold mine for RE4 and Ultrawings. But Quest 3 is very good looking.
DenchDeckard
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Sure, sell the psvr 2 but don't sell the ps5.
Minsc
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One last thing to consider - for someone who does plan on the PS5 Pro - that will inevitably also carry a PSVR2 upgrade along with it. Sure, it won't fix the flaws inherent in the device, but it certainly will further improve the existing PSVR2 library, exactly how the PSVR1's games got upgrades with the Pro/PS5 hardware.
So before selling - do consider the gap in performance will be larger on the PS5 Pro than it is now on the PS5. Games that are 60 w/ reprojection could easily be 90, and games that are sub native likewise could end up seeing resolution bumps to native. Other possibilities like further draw distance etc too.
All that said, damn if I'm not so close to pre-ordering the Quest 3 myself. For me the only real mark I have against the device is it uses the same LCD panels as the Quest 2, with all their issues of black levels and contrast, and lacks local dimming along with that. So I'll likely hold out for actual impressions. We all know the PSVR2 preview impressions were all butterflies and rainbows then actual people got the device and all of a sudden it didn't match the vision they were selling in the previews, with all sorts of visual issues and other problems. Still, it's a good VR device IMO, but certainly lots of room for improvement.
Romulus
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I've heard the blacks are somewhat better but the lenses are night and day better + higher resolution
I'm seeing better blacks here for sure in addition to the insane graphic bump
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Minsc
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Yes, but the graphic bump is possibly a mixed bag depending on what you compare to - compared to the Quest 2 it's a clear improvement in every way, but to the PSVR2, it's still an improvement in many ways, but it is worse in others (black levels definitely being one).
This is the video I have found so far that specifically addresses the black levels:
"Huge step up from the Quest 2 in picture, and even still a step up from the Quest Pro. The black levels from what I can see so far didn't look like they were the darkest, they still were a little gray, but it definitely looked better than it did on the Quest 2..."
Again, the preview linked is VERY much a positive, glowing impression, and I still believe the Quest 3 is looking to be one of the best VR devices on the market at launch and offers LOTS of ways to enjoy VR not possible on PSVR2. It's just for me, a little unfortunate if it turns out to have a weakness displaying blacks/contrast. But then again, with all the mura on the PSVR2 you can just as easily argue despite it's superior ability to display near-infinite contrast and truly black blacks, the abundance of mura in darker/mixed grays basically makes it a moot point.
Buggy Loop
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These are not through the lens, so we wouldn't really know the black levels. But Quest pro has been praised a lot for optics and LCD upgrade compared to Quest 2, i guess Quest 3 is again an upgrade overall.
Romulus
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I always thought you could to some degree without seeing through the lenses. Quest 2 has that classic washed out look there.
Come On Tars
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Just preordered the 512gb off amazon I am stoked.
Buggy Loop
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They took a page from the N64 fog everywhere era to improve performances.
But a real black scene could always be made / found on Quest 2, taking a snapshot of it and then on Quest pro / Quest 3 would show the exact same image, but through the lens is another story
Here's a Pimax crystal vs Quest 2 through the lens
Most Quest pro PCVR through the lens videls were pre Local dimming support
Which actually comes to mind, Quest 3 with LCD has no local dimming, will be interesting to see impressions of that when more knowledgeable peoples get hold of it.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Please tell me you are kidding
Romulus
Member
The standalone is now beyond psvr1 and we saw the types of games that could produce.
Having said that quest 2 had some racing and flight sims, something you never saw on wii. It's just much more well rounded and has adult game options especially with pcvr it's limitless.
Ps5 to me feels like ps4 pro+ in most ways. Same types of games we've been playing since 2013. With psvr2 it's great, or will be.
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CobraAB
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I never really had issues with glasses. You must have been doing it wrong.
CobraAB
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Yah you can upgrade to a Quest 3 by just selling a PSVR2 alone, no need to sell a PS5.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
People really don't want me to upgrade to the PS5 Pro it seems.
Or people are worried the PS5 Pro will not actually come out?
Guess I'll hold onto the PS5, got that Spiderman 2 to look forward to.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
It’s just that we have no idea when will PS5 Pro be released, and Spider-Man 2 is on the horizon. If you want to sell, then maybe sell after finishing SM2. Then use the fund for Quest 3 games
Romulus
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Looking great.Reddit - Dive into anything
ArtHands
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Damn, no screen door effect at all. The lens is crazy
DenchDeckard
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This looks amazing, for natively on the device.
I'm so pumped now. My only negatives are, I wish there was face and eye tracking as the horsepower seems to be there that foveat rendering would make this a beast.
I guess quest 4 will have it and maybe they release a pro of this headset with this, which I'd sell the 512gb and pick that up. If its like 1k.
Not long now. Hyped.
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mrmustard
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When you can wait for a Pro you can also wait for the Pc release. Sell the stuff and get a gaming pc + VR of your choice.
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alucard0712_rus
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No one knows. If there will be PS5 Pro but not PSVR2 revision, or both or none. It's all hard to tell.
Personally PS5 Pro is a no-brainer for PSVR, that thing requires high resolution and 90+ fps for great gameplay. GT7 at 90 or 120fps will be dream.
Resenge
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Minsc
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Looks nice! I eagerly await next week's impressions from people who have used multiple sets (particularly PSVR2 owners or other OLED VR panel devices).
The visual upgrades for running off the device are very nice too for not having to tether/stream from additional hardware.
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yet_another_alt
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I want one but multiple people in my family wear glasses and I refuse to buy prescription lenses for each person. I'll wait to see impressions of how it is with glasses before jumping in.
Ceadeus
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No, the meta quest store is exclusively digital.
Buggy Loop
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Goalus
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It was meant to be a joke - I am already sold on the Quest 3
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Yes, it comes in a backpack for maximum comfort and style...
Romulus
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On another note that game is actually pretty fun. Early 2000s vibes but that's not a bad thing.
Romulus
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I know there has been some debate on how clear the passthrough is and if you can actually read texts etc.
Some people were saying txt was readable but really blurry and the overall look of the passthrough was like a 480p camera, others were saying it was very good and closer to 1080p.
You be the judge.
Keep in mind this is compressed video and through a phone camera
Some people were saying txt was readable but really blurry and the overall look of the passthrough was like a 480p camera, others were saying it was very good and closer to 1080p.
You be the judge.
Keep in mind this is compressed video and through a phone camera
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cyberheater
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I think the app has been updated to now include Quest 3
Romulus
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Yeah PSVR1 won't be a problem at all. Switch is a pretty difficult comparison. Even though Quest 3 has a colossal horsepower advantage, Switch has the luxury of running games at stupid low resolution, settings, and framerate.
But that makes me think. They should use the mobile code for switch ports for Quest 3. Doom 2016 etc, tons of games there and probably increase settings.
Buggy Loop
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An honest impression from a user that isn’t a paid influencer on YouTube gushing at every little things (fucking puppets)
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Here’s how I found the Quest 3 compared to the Quest 2 from the demo at BestBuy:
Preface: I have never tried a Quest Pro. I have tried a lot of Quest 2s, a few Quest 1s, a few Rift Ss, Quest Go, Pico Neo 3, OG Vive, and crap-ass phone VR.
MR/Passthrough: Soooo much better. It is levels better in quality and makes reading your phone very possible. However, I would compare the image quality to watching a 180° video in YouTube at max resolution on the native YouTube Quest app. It was very acceptable, though I’ll admit my expectations were through the roof and it humbled me. Most certainly looked like a video feed, though it knocked the quest 2 out of the park. Also, no one has mentioned it, but that nasty warping of things moving in the mixed reality view from the Quest 2 is very, very still present. So, when you wave your hand in front of the display or you pass by an object in mixed reality, there will be warping following it. Quite icky.
Colors: Noticeably more vibrant. I wouldn’t say it’s a game changer, but it is a bit richer in color to my eyes. The short video demo that showed this the best for me was Asgard’s Wrath 2 (it’s a crappy video of the game in a third person perspective).
Blacks: To me, it is slightly improved. When in the Asgard’s Wrath 2 demo, I could notice things were more ‘contrasty’. I won’t say the nasty nasty grey has gone bye-bye. It’s certainly still there to haunt us a bit longer, but it has been improved. It is very obvious it’s still an LCD display.
FOV: This one is tricky for me. I use a VRCover on my Quest 2. In my experience, it greatly improved the FOV. So, with that in mind, it is very comparable to a Quest 2 that is upgraded with a VRCover… maybe even better…? It’s hard for me to say. I also idiotically forgot to mess about with the eye relief tab. That could change things, obviously.
Clarity: I can’t speak on resolution too well, as the demos were seemingly a compressed video on playback. That’s no way to check the sharpness of games fully utilizing the improved display resolution, so I dunno in that regard. The pancake lenses did add a bit more visibility for me on the edges. I was expecting something amazing from the reviews I watched… not so much. It was improved, but it’s not a whole world of difference for me. There was still chromatic abrasion fringing at the edges from distortion correction filters. They are much, much lower in visibility than the Quest 2, but they are there. »
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Here’s how I found the Quest 3 compared to the Quest 2 from the demo at BestBuy:
Preface: I have never tried a Quest Pro. I have tried a lot of Quest 2s, a few Quest 1s, a few Rift Ss, Quest Go, Pico Neo 3, OG Vive, and crap-ass phone VR.
MR/Passthrough: Soooo much better. It is levels better in quality and makes reading your phone very possible. However, I would compare the image quality to watching a 180° video in YouTube at max resolution on the native YouTube Quest app. It was very acceptable, though I’ll admit my expectations were through the roof and it humbled me. Most certainly looked like a video feed, though it knocked the quest 2 out of the park. Also, no one has mentioned it, but that nasty warping of things moving in the mixed reality view from the Quest 2 is very, very still present. So, when you wave your hand in front of the display or you pass by an object in mixed reality, there will be warping following it. Quite icky.
Colors: Noticeably more vibrant. I wouldn’t say it’s a game changer, but it is a bit richer in color to my eyes. The short video demo that showed this the best for me was Asgard’s Wrath 2 (it’s a crappy video of the game in a third person perspective).
Blacks: To me, it is slightly improved. When in the Asgard’s Wrath 2 demo, I could notice things were more ‘contrasty’. I won’t say the nasty nasty grey has gone bye-bye. It’s certainly still there to haunt us a bit longer, but it has been improved. It is very obvious it’s still an LCD display.
FOV: This one is tricky for me. I use a VRCover on my Quest 2. In my experience, it greatly improved the FOV. So, with that in mind, it is very comparable to a Quest 2 that is upgraded with a VRCover… maybe even better…? It’s hard for me to say. I also idiotically forgot to mess about with the eye relief tab. That could change things, obviously.
Clarity: I can’t speak on resolution too well, as the demos were seemingly a compressed video on playback. That’s no way to check the sharpness of games fully utilizing the improved display resolution, so I dunno in that regard. The pancake lenses did add a bit more visibility for me on the edges. I was expecting something amazing from the reviews I watched… not so much. It was improved, but it’s not a whole world of difference for me. There was still chromatic abrasion fringing at the edges from distortion correction filters. They are much, much lower in visibility than the Quest 2, but they are there. »
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cyberheater
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1 week to go.
Buggy Loop
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Fucking hell, you guys in US are getting a neat deal at Costco if the 128GB was an option.
DemonGamerTTT
Member
Do not buy this shit.
It's a great product but it's walled garden and lack of some must have features makes it a very short term investment, meta VR has the advantage of price but will end up with a brick toy without use laying around.
It's a great product but it's walled garden and lack of some must have features makes it a very short term investment, meta VR has the advantage of price but will end up with a brick toy without use laying around.
cyberheater
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What the fuck are you on about?
Resenge
Member
If it did not have PCVR support I could maybe understand your POV but I have a bought 4 Quests and use them all with PCVR, even my original Quest 1.
I dunno if you know this but the Quest 2 is the most used PCVR headset on steam.
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