Deckard Chapel
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No joke!
We haven't even seen the bosses yet, or even boss footage!!
Kojima has done an excellent job at keeping the majority of the content of this game under wraps.
I still would like a release date, however.
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Metal Gear Community Thread: Made you wait, didn't I?
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No joke!
We haven't even seen the bosses yet, or even boss footage!!
Kojima has done an excellent job at keeping the majority of the content of this game under wraps.
I still would like a release date, however.
I think Liquid and Code Talker are going to have a role in the main plot. It would be odd if Liquid was an optional story character.
tryagainlater
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What's drawing you to Code Talker as a main plot character?
Just the fact that he's not gonna be a buddy....right?
tryagainlater
Member
You never know with Kojima. The End is old as hell yet I wouldn't mind having him as a buddy. Code Talker may be able to float around and kill people with his mind for all we know given what Quiet is able to do.
GreyOcelot
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my god, why did i watch this.
they spell ambulance backwards on the hood of ambulances so cars can read it through their rearview mirror
tryagainlater
Member
Damn... the PythonSelkan guys need to step up their game, a new challenger has appeared
The spelling mistakes.
GreyOcelot
Member
btw, that orange thing in the corner simply looks like a tunnel
everytime i watch one of these mgs videos, i feel like i'm watching the video game equivalent of one of those Illuminati 911 truther videos
everytime i watch one of these mgs videos, i feel like i'm watching the video game equivalent of one of those Illuminati 911 truther videos
Skullface
Member
The score is very on par with those illuminati vids. Holy shit, I cringed through that whole thing...
I'll be putting Code Talker in my intel unit. I'll need him to decipher... Codes. And what not.
Everything in this video is wrong :l
This is rivaling the guy who is convinced that Gray Fox is Big Boss on its stupidity. Also, I couldn't stop laughing when he freeze framed on ambulance and the music picked up.
Bad Dawg! Bad!
PrinceOfWhatever
Banned
I would kinda like to see the Monster Hunter missions making a return in TPP.
I was thinking about this the other day. I'm on board to see these missions again, especially now with the Fox Engine.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I beat all of regular Raiden's VR/Alternative missions in under 2 hours 
Altogether the mission mode easily adds a good ~15 hours to the game. More if you get stuck on certain levels (AKA MGS1 Snake missions). I think having both Pliskin and Tuxedo Snake is redundant. But at least they change up the levels and have different music for each character (which is crazy).
MGS1 VR Missions had more crazy bonus levels. Once you got to Variety Mode after slogging through Sneaking, Weapon, and Advanced it was just a ton of awesome crazy shit. But just in terms of your everyday Sneaking and Weapon modes I prefer MGS2 by far.
The PSG1 levels really drive it home how much they improved the sniper controls in Snake Eater and subsequently MGS4. In terms of game speed, though, I think MGS2 is the fastest, beaten only by perhaps Ground Zeroes thanks to the sprinting ability in that game. You can really go through levels quick and later on as the difficulty ramps up it becomes a necessity. MGS3 and MGS4 had a slower pace (although obviously you can speedrun those as well)
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Altogether the mission mode easily adds a good ~15 hours to the game. More if you get stuck on certain levels (AKA MGS1 Snake missions). I think having both Pliskin and Tuxedo Snake is redundant. But at least they change up the levels and have different music for each character (which is crazy).
MGS1 VR Missions had more crazy bonus levels. Once you got to Variety Mode after slogging through Sneaking, Weapon, and Advanced it was just a ton of awesome crazy shit. But just in terms of your everyday Sneaking and Weapon modes I prefer MGS2 by far.
The PSG1 levels really drive it home how much they improved the sniper controls in Snake Eater and subsequently MGS4. In terms of game speed, though, I think MGS2 is the fastest, beaten only by perhaps Ground Zeroes thanks to the sprinting ability in that game. You can really go through levels quick and later on as the difficulty ramps up it becomes a necessity. MGS3 and MGS4 had a slower pace (although obviously you can speedrun those as well)
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tryagainlater
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That reminded me of those MGS1 Snake hold up missions and how horrible they are. I'm not sure how I did them all...twice. Doing all those Raiden missions in two hours seems pretty quick though. Kudos.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Yeah that was some trial-and-error BS. The other characters were instant game over upon discovery too but had more breathing room for on-the-spot improvisation. My favorite of the Hold Up levels is the Strut E Heliport one. You can play that mission straight from the radar alone, it's really fun.
Nice. I'm guessing Knack must have had a bundle or special or something. Or maybe it's because it's one of the few family games.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
That video everyones quoting was taken down. what was it?
err maybe its best I don't know.
irrc Knack was a free game for everyone that bought PS4s in JPN lol
So basically MGS is best selling!!!
err maybe its best I don't know.
irrc Knack was a free game for everyone that bought PS4s in JPN lol
So basically MGS is best selling!!!
Chakra_Khan
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Love the remixed ps1 vr missions tracks when you play as mgs1 snake in substance.
and that's only the PS4 numbers.
One of those crazy conspiratorial videos, something about how the game has this theme of mirroring things (fox vs xof, etc) and that there was an ambulance in one of the trailers that had the text backwards (like all ambulances) and Kiefer was in the movie Mirrors which also had an ambulance at the end so that meant Kiefer was a phantom. Or something. I don't even know what point he was trying to make lol.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
And here's the crazy part in case you didn't know: the PS1 vr mission songs were remixed MG and MG2:SS songs.
The past: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mZfraudKHE
The modern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9AAArXGB28&
The postmodern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTS4dBEr9i0
What was this? It's no longer online.
Chakra_Khan
Member
Yeah, I knew where they came from. I wanna hear the re re RE imagined version of these when mgs6 gets made.
Another dumb conspiracy that made no sense what so ever. Seriously, I'm still not sure what he was trying to prove.
Skullface
Member
I think it was attention seeking. Dude man probably took it down when it was pointed out that there was a very reasonable explanation as to why the word "ambulance" was printed the way it was.
Chakra_Khan
Member
Yep. The details for just an extra skin no less am i right?
also,
It's too bad the nightvision in V look's really fuckin stupid.
who prompted this decision i wonder? is it for the sake of the player's field of vision? gameplay purposes?
why yellow highlights? just why?
This is why i enjoy playing the game monochrome.
also,
It's too bad the nightvision in V look's really fuckin stupid.
who prompted this decision i wonder? is it for the sake of the player's field of vision? gameplay purposes?
why yellow highlights? just why?
This is why i enjoy playing the game monochrome.
GreyOcelot
Member
Yep. The details for just an extra skin no less am i right?
also,
It's too bad the nightvision in V look's really fuckin stupid.
who prompted this decision i wonder? is it for the sake of the player's field of vision? gameplay purposes?
why yellow highlights? just why?
This is why i enjoy playing the game monochrome.
it's night-vision and thermal all in one, hence the yellow
Chakra_Khan
Member
Oh............so...........hence the 1970's technology?
I mean I'm only questioning this based solely on the fact that on the lower left hand corner of the menu hud it says the words 'night vision' before goggles.
Also, I do believe that this was the case with the solid eye in 4(thermal/night vision) yet everything was highlighted white.
Look, it's just an aesthetic complaint, not a practical one. cuz, you know, life is fair and I am important.
GreyOcelot
Member
haha. yeah all the enemies and rats and whatever else show up as yellow also, so it's dual function as night vision and thermal
PrinceOfWhatever
Banned
Maybe the NVG color will change in Phantom Pain when you upgrade them :lol
Chakra_Khan
Member
Switching gears for minute.....................gears........................*face palm.
"Early backstoryEdit
In Metal Gear 2, Fox claims that he was a half-white living in Vietnam, sent to a forced labor camp after the war (which ended in 1975), before Big Boss saved him for the first time.[36] In addition, the Metal Gear Solid Official Mission Handbook states that he was born in the 1970s to unknown parents, and was of Vietnamese and German-American descent.[37] However, Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops later contradicts the Handbook's account with his appearance in 1970, though he retains a German-speaking background. In addition, Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes revealed that Big Boss was in a coma after the Vietnam War ended and did not wake up until 1984, contradicting Fox's account in Metal Gear 2."
Despite all this, and the PO bullshit(sorry, wasn't fond of his inclusion in that one) I hope that Frank makes an appearance in the phantom pain.
I'm also fairly certain there will be a whole heaping of retcons left and right in the final product, but If there's one I'd be totally ok with, it'd be Frank's nationality. Solely for the fact that I'd want no other person to play him but this man:
I always figured that Chris Zimmerman cast him because given what little was established of Fox around the time of MGS it made sense because of his backstory involving places like zanzibar and mozambique.
anyone? thoughts?
"Early backstoryEdit
In Metal Gear 2, Fox claims that he was a half-white living in Vietnam, sent to a forced labor camp after the war (which ended in 1975), before Big Boss saved him for the first time.[36] In addition, the Metal Gear Solid Official Mission Handbook states that he was born in the 1970s to unknown parents, and was of Vietnamese and German-American descent.[37] However, Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops later contradicts the Handbook's account with his appearance in 1970, though he retains a German-speaking background. In addition, Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes revealed that Big Boss was in a coma after the Vietnam War ended and did not wake up until 1984, contradicting Fox's account in Metal Gear 2."
Despite all this, and the PO bullshit(sorry, wasn't fond of his inclusion in that one) I hope that Frank makes an appearance in the phantom pain.
I'm also fairly certain there will be a whole heaping of retcons left and right in the final product, but If there's one I'd be totally ok with, it'd be Frank's nationality. Solely for the fact that I'd want no other person to play him but this man:
I always figured that Chris Zimmerman cast him because given what little was established of Fox around the time of MGS it made sense because of his backstory involving places like zanzibar and mozambique.
anyone? thoughts?
Skullface
Member
Switching gears for minute.....................gears........................*face palm.
"Early backstoryEdit
In Metal Gear 2, Fox claims that he was a half-white living in Vietnam, sent to a forced labor camp after the war (which ended in 1975), before Big Boss saved him for the first time.[36] In addition, the Metal Gear Solid Official Mission Handbook states that he was born in the 1970s to unknown parents, and was of Vietnamese and German-American descent.[37] However, Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops later contradicts the Handbook's account with his appearance in 1970, though he retains a German-speaking background. In addition, Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes revealed that Big Boss was in a coma after the Vietnam War ended and did not wake up until 1984, contradicting Fox's account in Metal Gear 2."
Despite all this, and the PO bullshit(sorry, wasn't fond of his inclusion in that one) I hope that Frank makes an appearance in the phantom pain.
I'm also fairly certain there will be a whole heaping of retcons left and right in the final product, but If there's one I'd be totally ok with, it'd be Frank's nationality. Solely for the fact that I'd want no other person to play him but this man:
I always figured that Chris Zimmerman cast him because given what little was established of Fox around the time of MGS it made sense because of his backstory involving places like zanzibar and mozambique.
anyone? thoughts?
I usually tend to agree with you, but none of the characters had particularly well established backgrounds at the time of MGS. At least not in the west. I don't know what Zimmerman was thinking. I guess she thought he could play the role of a maniacal ninja robot well. But imagine my face when I see Fox's lily white skin after hearing Deepthroat. I'd take George Eagles for Fox purely for nostalgia, even if the decide to paint him black. Also... The DARPA chief had the same voice actor, no? Both characters had comparatively fewer lines than other cast members. I'm thinking maybe they cast Eagles as "the black guy" and figured robot ninjas are racially ambiguous, so they used him as Fox to avoid paying another actor. Or to avoid paying another actor who costs more for additional lines.
GreyOcelot
Member
white or black fox regardless, he was awesome as fox and i'd have no problem with him voicing the role again
Skullface
Member
In a lot of ways, I'd prefer it. I just don't know how I'd feel about him voicing a half Vietnamese half German white looking guy. I'd rather they just make him black to avoid a ton of immersion breaking. You could make an argument about Phil LaMarr and Vamp, but he is really in another class.
AuthenticM
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I don't think we should take anything from Portable Ops as canon, even though Kojima might have said otherwise.
I'd rather they bring back Rob Paulsen or Larc Spies for Gray Fox. Maybe someone new. I didn't think Greg Eagles fit at all.
Like PO, I wouldn't consider specific story details from either Metal Gears to be canon. Those games were made a long time ago, it's perfectly understandable to ignore minor story details.
They already updated Gray Fox's canon so that he was rescued shortly after Snake Eater and was in Mozambique during the 80s. I'd be surprised if Gray Fox didn't make an appearance in MGSV and I doubt Kojima's going to retcon the updated canon.
Like PO, I wouldn't consider specific story details from either Metal Gears to be canon. Those games were made a long time ago, it's perfectly understandable to ignore minor story details.
They already updated Gray Fox's canon so that he was rescued shortly after Snake Eater and was in Mozambique during the 80s. I'd be surprised if Gray Fox didn't make an appearance in MGSV and I doubt Kojima's going to retcon the updated canon.
Rogue Agent
Banned
That's fantastic.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Chakra_Khan
Member
I can see that it'd make sense for them to cast rob and larc given their caucasian persuasion. Personally, didn't care for either cuz Rob Paulsen will forever be squirrely cartoon voice guy to me and larc spies...............sounds like someone who has the personality of a lint trap.
But I agree with you. someone new would be just fine.
And I don't take PO into consideration in regards to canon either.
I wouldn't say so, but I'd bet the people (that aren't valve themselves) that make them would say you are.
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