CambriaRising
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over analysis of nothing and acting as if kojima has some kind of over-arching plan?
this is over thinking things.
Yeah, this is bullshit.
over analysis of nothing and acting as if kojima has some kind of over-arching plan?
this is over thinking things.
Hi GAF,
I've been lurking the last 1 1/2 years and realised 3 months ago, that I could register with my ISB mail..
since this is my first post, I had to decide whether I should post on Souls/Bloodborne GAF or on MG GAF. I made my decission, brothers.
welcome brothers.Never posted in this thread before. Just finished MGS4 for the first time. That went on forever! Was very confusing! Drebin and Meryl and Akiba was terrible!
The political undertone concerning firearms in this thread is thoroughly entertaining. I reside in the southern United States, which has arguably the most ardent gun culture in the world. It's nearly impossible to go your entire life down here without having at least held a gun.
It's rather unfortunate to see the degree of firearm expertise that was prevalent in previous iterations of MGS become perceivably nonexistent in MGSV, and I would place my bet on licensing issues being the key reason for this.
If I remember correctly, even the military vehicles and helicopters are only vague resemblances of their real counterparts in this game. That implies that nothing in this game is truly historically centered like the previous Metal Gears were.
I'll still enjoy the hell out of MGSV, even if when Solid Snake makes an appearance in the end, they'll have to find some way to replace his Signature SOCOM.
Congrats dude, I read you were not having any luck in the other thread.so i pre-odered the premium PS4 version from konami style today.
i'm also getting the day one uk version, and the steam one too.
so i pre-odered the premium PS4 version from konami style today.
i'm also getting the day one uk version, and the steam one too.
Hi guys.
I like guns. I like Metal Gear Solid. I will miss real firearms represented in the series.
You guys are missing the point with Python Selkan D:
Congrats dude, I read you were not having any luck in the other thread.
So I assume you were able to successfully get the proxy set up? I may need to figure this out for something else I want to get soon...
thanks bros.Nice, how'd you pre-order it through Konami Style? I had to find someone in Japan to do it for me lol
Cool, I just read that. My biggest concern is that for some unforseen reason Konamistyle won't accept my card. I guess there's no way to know until you try?
Cool, I just read that. My biggest concern is that for some unforseen reason Konamistyle won't accept my card. I guess there's no way to know until you try?
Cool, I just read that. My biggest concern is that for some unforseen reason Konamistyle won't accept my card. I guess there's no way to know until you try?
yeah sorry i didn't make that clearer, para11ax,They won't. That's why you pay this site and then they use their card to buy it.
VERY well said, Skullface.
Wait, you can't think of any game in the series that admonishes the player for killing either?
Yeah makes sense. Not sure what I was thinking there lol.They won't. That's why you pay this site and then they use their card to buy it.
That's not my issue. You have a game that in many respects laments war and admonishes the player for killing, whilst paying stipends to RL gun manufactures. It's not a huge issue (I still play the game), but it's always been a sticking point with me because it undermines the general political message Kojima is making; which is an arguably more important aspect of the series.
Read what RoyalDuke said. It isn't "nothing". Just because MGS has its fantastical/sci-fi moments does not mean that the series isn't set in a very similar reality to ours.
Well said.
I'm a fan of the AKS-74u that the Gurlukovich mercenaries used.
Of course I can, but killing in MGS doesn't equal gun violence. Most of the time (if I even decide to kill in any MGS game) it's with the knife, neck snapping, barrel explosions, or tossing them off cliffs/bridges.
I think it's probably Konami being cheap asses, rather than any sort of ingrained message.
Chico Mantis confirmed
WUT.
Isn't Psycho Mantis Russian? Or of Russian descent?
Chico's Nicaraguan right?
yes and yes
WUT.
Isn't Psycho Mantis Russian? Or of Russian descent?
Chico's Nicaraguan right?
*sigh* it's just fucking extra protection for the internal organs ( lungs, i believe. )
Chico Mantis confirmed
So let's say hypothetically I only have a PS4, PSV, and PSTV because I hypothetically sold my PS3. I've got the MGS Collection on the Vita, MGS1 for PSN, and GZ on the PS4.
How would I go about replaying MGS4 with the equipment I currently own? Bonus points for anyone who can tell me how I can replay Ac!d 1/2 as well.
I don't know whether or not MGS4 is on PSNow...
AFAIK Ac!d's aren't on PSN, or like Portable Ops, they're not widely available...
It seems that without a PS3 or OG PSP, you may be SOL.
Yep, they point that out immediately after. Their point isn't that Chico is Mantis, but that Mantis is creating a hallucination and nothing in GZ is real, just a simulation. Or something.
Please stop giving that guy clicks. Holy shit.
Do they offer a good theory as to why Mantis would be doing that? BB can't be in a coma already since the crash doesn't happen until after the Ground Zeroes mission...
Unless Kojima has been straight up LYING about Phantom Pain's premise and feeding us misinformation purposefully, that makes zero sense.
They base it on the fact that there's a contradiction between what Kaz said at the end of Peace Walker ('I knew who they were all along' refering to Zadornov and Paz) and what he says in Ground Zeroes ('I can't believe we bought that cover story').
That's why they think the events of GZ might have not happened. It's still too far-fetched but to be fair they do have a point about Miller.
They base it on the fact that there's a contradiction between what Kaz said at the end of Peace Walker ('I knew who they were all along' refering to Zadornov and Paz) and what he says in Ground Zeroes ('I can't believe we bought that cover story').
That's why they think the events of GZ might have not happened. It's still too far-fetched but to be fair they do have a point about Miller.
As to why Mantis would be doing that, no idea. So yeah, it makes no sense lol
What if Ground Zeroes takes place AFTER Phantom Pain?
it's because kojima makes it up as he goes along, and has said he doesn't go back to check his notes of what he did in previous games.They base it on the fact that there's a contradiction between what Kaz said at the end of Peace Walker ('I knew who they were all along' refering to Zadornov and Paz) and what he says in Ground Zeroes ('I can't believe we bought that cover story').
Think about it. How any movies have you seen where they show you a piece of the ending first, then show you how they got there, then you see the conclusion.
Maybe GZ takes place after the main narrative of TPP and we'll get an epilogue that shows what happened after the helicopter crash.