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[Killer8]

This needs to be in the OP. You could not pause in the original game. I can hardly blame anyone for some technical difficulties when adding new features, considering how old the game is.

I've skimmed through the rest of the video and it seems...fine? Seems like a faithful conversion of the original MGS.

Indeed.

>added long requested cutscene pause feature, albeit in a flawed way
>"terrible conversion"

 

[RAIDEN1]

You had one job Konami

You say that, but these are the very same people who threw in the towel when trying to make a standout football game compared to E.A

 

[rofif]

None of this matters. I can finally own all 3 mgs games on one disc on ps5

 

[Clear]

Indeed.

>added long requested cutscene pause feature, albeit in a flawed way
>"terrible conversion"

Yeah, looks like an emulation so I'd assume that the "in-game" pause runs within the emulation, but the "system pause" screen is a layer above and might be creating a save-state before entering that mode.

 

[Three]

Yeah, looks like an emulation so I'd assume that the "in-game" pause runs within the emulation, but the "system pause" screen is a layer above and might be creating a save-state before entering that mode.

My guess too. They're doing a whole save-state but even then it seems too slow. Shouldn't be more than 10MB should it?

 

[rkofan87]

boooooooooooooooooooooo what trash is this the only way to play mgs4 is this trash sad for gamers like me who sold the ps3.

 

[JMarcell]

I know that a lot of people does'nt have a PC, but Duckstation can run this game WAY better than that and it's free of charge. It's just a shame that Konami made a low-effort port like that, not even added modern anti-aliasing into it.

 

[rkofan87]

What a damn shame, MGS is one of my favorite video game series ever created. If the rest of the ports run smoothly I'll probably still buy it but will feel dirty while doing so.

i have a preorder on psn hoping the master books are cool

 

[SenkiDala]

Still gonna take it, this is Metal Gear Solid.

 

[ComputerBlue]

which specific place are you talking about? I see the player pause on accident and it only takes a sec.

On accident…

 

[RoboFu]

On accident…

What you can totally see he meant to hit the codec button but paused it for a sec in the time stamp I posted..

 

[tomato shrub]

How about this industry stops suing the hackers who provide good emulation and starts hiring them?

 

[tommib]

boooooooooooooooooooooo what trash is this the only way to play mgs4 is this trash sad for gamers like me who sold the ps3.

MGS4 is not included. They’re also not including the best Metal Gear which is Twin Snakes.

Spoiler

not a joke, deal with it

 

[Shifty1897]

If you think this is bad, wait til you see them attempt to emulate MGS4 in Vol. 2.

 

[Swagballs717]

Man, following this game has been an emotional rollercoaster.

The first five Metal Gear systems are given modern ports with physical releases:
They're only at 720p and 30 fps:
They run at 60 fps and 1080p on PS5:
They run worse than ever:

I'm sure this is something that could be fixed with a post release patch, but now I'm less optimistic about volume 2 containing MGS 4

 

[GHound]

Feels like they'd have been better off just using the existing PS1 emulation for PS4/5 on said systems.

which specific place are you talking about? I see the player pause on accident and it only takes a sec.

Different function. That's the original pause mechanic.

 

[Ivan]

Every time I see MGS and hear the music, my heart just melts... What a game.

 

[thatJohann]

Sounds like a full-blown disaster of a port that will get rightfully torn apart by critics and DF.

 

[Muffdraul]

So just make sure you always pause the game 10 seconds before need to. Simple.

 

[Deerock71]

It takes time to stop all those assets, after all.

 

[rkofan87]

MGS4 is not included. They’re also not including the best Metal Gear which is Twin Snakes.

Spoiler

not a joke, deal with it

i know i was talking about vol 2

 

[mitch1971]

Menu
Gets
Stuck

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

Fuck Man, I really wanted to get this one.

Is it really that big of a deal? Especially considering the misleading thread title about it taking 10 seconds to pause the game when it's actually just cut-scenes? You couldn't pause cut-scenes at all in the original.

 

[yansolo]

full price for terrible ports of games that are 15+ years old , from a company that doesn't care for players or its own franchises and people still throw money at them, good stuff.

 

[ArtHands]

Man the PS5 version of MGS Collection is rough

 

[DrFigs]

ain't no way

 

[Shadowstar39]

The cutscene pause screen is not part of the actual game so I don't think its a big problem.

This all these weirdos are fing drama queens. "Oh my pearls and girls, no pausing during mgs1s cutscene , I was going to get this too. That's it canceled order..."... Lol

People are so quick to pass judgment without a full testing or review. Especially for something as dumb as that. If you want to pause to use the bathroom during a cutscene chances are you can wait 10 seconds. If you are that much of a Gen z instant gratification junkie, than you have bigger issues. It's 10 seconds for for a niche case in a game that never got ported from ps1...

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

Man, following this game has been an emotional rollercoaster.

They run worse than ever:

Where did this come from?

 

[chaseroni]

I’ll probably buy it on steam just to have it for archival purposes but damn that’s rough. I’ll just continue to play it on emulators more than likely.

This is neither here nor there but I think you should reconsider your approach to Steam as an "Archive" it's a digital storefront and while it does seem too big to fail, it doesn't mean it will always be there in the way a proper "Archive" would.

I'd consider a GOG version more of an "Archived" version but even that Storefront could go away someday, at least the executable doesn't need to check in and could be shared for years to come.

Just food for thought.

 

[GeorgioCostanzaX]

This is neither here nor there but I think you should reconsider your approach to Steam as an "Archive" it's a digital storefront and while it does seem too big to fail, it doesn't mean it will always be there in the way a proper "Archive" would.

I'd consider a GOG version more of an "Archived" version but even that Storefront could go away someday, at least the executable doesn't need to check in and could be shared for years to come.

Just food for thought.

It's more the fact that I can legitimately play PS3 era stuff that got a steam release like FFXIII whereas I can’t on my PS5: and of course with steam deck emulation is a snap too and I’m not above that.

 

[phant0m]

please don't buy this shit.

i fucking LOVE MGS but this is as bad as the GTA trilogy "remaster" or whatever. zero fucking effort.

also

Spoiler

 

[AREYOUOKAY?]

Not like this...

 

[genesisblock]

Not looking forward to MGS: . Fuck Konami.

 

[rofif]

full price for terrible ports of games that are 15+ years old , from a company that doesn't care for players or its own franchises and people still throw money at them, good stuff.

It’s 50. Not full price

 

[Embearded]

please don't buy this shit.

i fucking LOVE MGS but this is as bad as the GTA trilogy "remaster" or whatever. zero fucking effort.

also

Spoiler

No it's not as bad.
Hyperbolic bullshit like this belong to another forum.

 

[rofif]

please don't buy this shit.

i fucking LOVE MGS but this is as bad as the GTA trilogy "remaster" or whatever. zero fucking effort.

also

Spoiler

It’s not that bad. The games are faithful to originals

 

[Soodanim]

What you can totally see he meant to hit the codec button but paused it for a sec in the time stamp I posted..

I can't be sure, but I think he was taking the piss out of your grammar, as the correct English is "by accident".

 

[phaedrus]

I know that a lot of people does'nt have a PC, but Duckstation can run this game WAY better than that and it's free of charge. It's just a shame that Konami made a low-effort port like that, not even added modern anti-aliasing into it.

Seriously, with this level of graphics improvement achievable on Duckstation :


Yet PC gamers still want to give money to Konami?

 

[Soodanim]

The only thing I'm interested in is how the PC ports will be, with or without fan patches/mods. That's going to be the real long term investment here.

Wasn't it widely assumed/understood that there ports would be bad from the resolution announcements etc? No one was under the impression that the games were dug out of their source code and meticulously worked upon to create wonderfully fresh 4K ports, they were always going to be low effort affairs to expect little of.

 

[Gp1]

Come on
They could load the entire first game on the consoles' ram.

 

[Fabieter]

Seriously, with this level of graphics improvement achievable on Duckstation :


Yet PC gamers still want to give money to Konami?

Well most people don't rip the isos and think it's legal downloading a rom. This collection is a legal way to consume the games on pc and modern consoles.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

MGS fans and their Stockholm syndrome are so precious.

 

[phaedrus]

Well most people don't rip the isos and think it's legal downloading a rom. This collection is a legal way to consume the games on pc and modern consoles.

I can't imagine any MGS1 fan not owning at least one legal version of it across the console generations.

I myself have 4: The PS1 release, the PS2 version (MGS Essential Collection), the PS3/PSP digital version, and most recently the PlayStation Classic version.

So no, not giving more money to Konami if they can't be bothered to put in the effort.

And no, I have no ethical qualms about ripping my game discs to ISOs.

And BTW this is MGS2 running on PCSX2 at 4K60:

 

[Fabieter]

I can't imagine any MGS1 fan not owning at least one legal version of it across the console generations.

I myself have 4: The PS1 release, the PS2 version (MGS Essential Collection), the PS3/PSP digital version, and most recently the PlayStation Classic version.

So no, not giving more money to Konami if they can't be bothered to put in the effort.

And no, I have no ethical qualms about ripping my game discs to ISOs.

And BTW this is MGS2 running on PCSX2 at 4K60:

If you ripping your own disc than everything is totally legal well besides you have to rip your own bios for most emulators.

I paid 50 euro for like 6 games. I expected ports for that kinda money and seems like I get exactly that.

I agree it's weird that mgs 2 and 3 didn't get a higher resolution but besides that this offer is totally fine.

 

[DragonNCM]

Thanks for the info. Now I know for sure that I will pass this joke of remake.

 

[xrnzaaas]

There's also some huge random freezes without even pausing, like here at 7:04


So weird lol.

Isn't this a streaming bug?

 

[VulcanRaven]

Thanks for the info. Now I know for sure that I will pass this joke of remake.

This collection has no remakes. MGS3 remake is coming next year.

 

[The Fuzz damn you!]

I am fully expecting this to be a shot port, but this is an absolute non-issue. People are claiming this is literally unplayable because… it doesn’t have instantaneous pausing during cut-scenes? And this makes it worse than the GTA remaster? What the fuck are you people talking about?

None of this is helped by adamsapple ‘s click-bait drama post title, of course, but ffs - this is not the hill to die on. And people here complain about game devs having “agendas”…

 

[Erebus]

I can't imagine any MGS1 fan not owning at least one legal version of it across the console generations.

I myself have 4: The PS1 release, the PS2 version (MGS Essential Collection), the PS3/PSP digital version, and most recently the PlayStation Classic version.

So no, not giving more money to Konami if they can't be bothered to put in the effort.

And no, I have no ethical qualms about ripping my game discs to ISOs.

And BTW this is MGS2 running on PCSX2 at 4K60:

Damn after all these years and the intro of MGS2 still gives me shivers. MGS 1-3 are the pinnacle of Kojima's work.

 

[Kenneth Haight]