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Metaphor: ReFantazio Demo is dropping today on Consoles and Steam at 9 AM/11AM PT
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balls of snow
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Yeah Im shifting a few games to Nov -Dec since those look like empty months for me besides Stalker 2 and Indy. Just Sh2, life is stange and dragon age for this month while finishing Astro Bot and Starfield Shattered Space.
Planning one big jrpg after Dragon Age though, either Metaphor or Infinite Wealth.
Little Mac
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Famitsu gave it a 37/40 so I’m guessing it will get mid to high 80s atleast? I really enjoyed the demo. Only complaint would be that I wish the game was using UE5 like P3R.
Go_Ly_Dow
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P3R is UE4 but yes I agree probs would have produced better IQ.
Considering the main P5 devs made Metaphor I guess that's why they carried on using the in house tools.
TheTony316
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Really liked the demo. Getting this day1. My only issue is that the image quality looks like ass on PS5.
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Danjin44
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I would say just like most Persona/SMT you find equipment through chests you find in dungeons and you get items are exclusively made to be sold in shops the use the money the get equipment.
Another thing is now each part member have different weapons for each jobs, you might be buying multiple weapons for each character, so money is even more important in this game.
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Renoir
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damn. sound like strong grind. the enemies are dropping nickels.
As far as stats i picked the answer for my main guy to have Str. but now i feel like i should have gave him a boost in Mag.. do i just have to start over? Or his fine with str? Now that u said i get loot from chest , should i go with luck?
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Danjin44
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That depends what class you want him to focus on, do you want him give more Mage class or Warrior class.
With most SMT games I usually go with strength build but maybe this time I make my MC magic build since both Strohl and Hulkenberg already cover strength.
I also would put more points towards Ag which make my character dodge attack more often.
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MagiusNecros
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Either dump intro STR or MAG. Never both. Not in Atlus games. And most games really LOVE to use STR.
Quick rundown on what stats do in this game.
ST - Increase physical damage from abilities and basic attacks
MA - Increase spell damage from all magic attacks
EN - Take less damage from incoming attacks
AG - Increase hit, dodge, escape rates
LK - Increase rate of finding items, increases critical hit rate for physical attacks
Also note that your Archetype also gives you stats based on that archetype.
Will be doing a Magic build so probably MA/AG build for me.
For you I'd suggest heavy ST investment, some EN and LK if you are going with a Strength build.
Though I wonder if stacking EN would make a Mage a Tank.
Quick rundown on what stats do in this game.
ST - Increase physical damage from abilities and basic attacks
MA - Increase spell damage from all magic attacks
EN - Take less damage from incoming attacks
AG - Increase hit, dodge, escape rates
LK - Increase rate of finding items, increases critical hit rate for physical attacks
Also note that your Archetype also gives you stats based on that archetype.
Will be doing a Magic build so probably MA/AG build for me.
For you I'd suggest heavy ST investment, some EN and LK if you are going with a Strength build.
Though I wonder if stacking EN would make a Mage a Tank.
Danjin44
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I dont think thats good idea based on MAG class description they naturally have low defence, thats why you put them back row instead of front.
Hulkenberg has less STR compare to Strohl but she has high EN and her default class has skill thats makes enemies target her, so she is natural tank build.
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MagiusNecros
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I'm just curious on effectiveness if at all. I think EN is just going to be used to smooth over damage and it's mostly going to be a STR or MAG dump as usual.
We will know more once we learn how many Attribute points we actually have to spend.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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There's no excuse for this to be so aliased though, esp on a PS5. Persona 5 didn't look like that running on a PS4 Pro so why does this have such crappy IQ on a frickin PS5?? I'm at the end of my rope with Atlus where Im like, if you want to disregard image quality like this then i'm not buying your damn game.
Unknown Soldier
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The only valid strategies for most SMT players will be to stack STR or MAG
STR builds tend to be weaker in the early game when magic can still hit all weakness. Later on when there are more magics than skill slots, STR builds based on consistently hitting crits will be stronger. This goes double on late game bosses which simply have no weaknesses
MAG builds start off stronger but fall off in the later game. Most MAG build players find they are more in a support role later which is fine if your demons or party members are strong in offense. It's also more consistent for you to play the healer and buffer/debuffer in some fights
There will be items that lets you reset your allocated skill points so don't sweat too much in the early game, try out STR builds and MAG builds and you can just change it up in the later game if you aren't liking the play style
STR builds tend to be weaker in the early game when magic can still hit all weakness. Later on when there are more magics than skill slots, STR builds based on consistently hitting crits will be stronger. This goes double on late game bosses which simply have no weaknesses
MAG builds start off stronger but fall off in the later game. Most MAG build players find they are more in a support role later which is fine if your demons or party members are strong in offense. It's also more consistent for you to play the healer and buffer/debuffer in some fights
There will be items that lets you reset your allocated skill points so don't sweat too much in the early game, try out STR builds and MAG builds and you can just change it up in the later game if you aren't liking the play style
Little Mac
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Good to know. Do you think there will be a way to rename the main character’s name to Will?
Also is there rewards for playing on harder difficulties?
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Shake Your Rump
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Finished the demo. I stopped immediately after the in-game message. I figure I'll save discovering all the activities and such for the full game.
Every game should have a demo like this, where your progress carries over. It got me to buy Trials of Mana and Octopath Traveler. It certainly finalized the sale on this game.
Fantastic game. I only have two complaints. First, the overall graphical quality is good, but it needs some sort of filter to soften it. It's far too sharp. I wonder what resolution it uses? It's rock solid 60fps, so no complaints there.
Second, someone from Sony needs to send a team to all these JRPG developers and teach them how to use HDR. I am so tired of every Sega, Falcom, etc game running in SDR. HDR support was added in 2016. Why do these Japanese developers refuse to add it?
Every game should have a demo like this, where your progress carries over. It got me to buy Trials of Mana and Octopath Traveler. It certainly finalized the sale on this game.
Fantastic game. I only have two complaints. First, the overall graphical quality is good, but it needs some sort of filter to soften it. It's far too sharp. I wonder what resolution it uses? It's rock solid 60fps, so no complaints there.
Second, someone from Sony needs to send a team to all these JRPG developers and teach them how to use HDR. I am so tired of every Sega, Falcom, etc game running in SDR. HDR support was added in 2016. Why do these Japanese developers refuse to add it?
Unknown Soldier
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Demo's not that long, just restart and play as Will if you want his canon name
If you change the language, it resets both your name and MC's name to a generic default but if you change it back it remembers what you input
The reward for playing on harder difficulty is the satisfaction of winning against insurmountable odds
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StereoVsn
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Oh, I need to try it again. Can it at least hold 60fps on a decent card (not 4090)?
I also assume still no AA, DLSS, etc?
Hrk69
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97 easy
Topher
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That would incredible but I doubt it. My guess is 88-90
Go_Ly_Dow
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Some commentary on the Metaphor localization here some of you might be interested in:
www.neogaf.com
Analysis - Localization Controversy | A Discussion With Alexander O. Smith | State of the Arc Podcast
It seems that with every new Japanese game released here in the States, there's another controversy about the translation. Most recently, we saw this with Metaphor: Refantasio, but the same thing happened with Unicorn Overlord and many others. This is true not only for games but also for anime...
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