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[Zacfoldor]

Hell yeah!!!! There it is!

 

[Chuck Berry]

The East continues to dominate 2024

Also, Persona fans are ravenous as fuck

 

[Fake]

Sega is the publisher. They're acting like a good publisher. They're getting past games on Gamepass, they're getting it on PC, they're getting simultaneous worldwide releases, they're growing the audience. That's what they should be doing. Sega is doing the same thing with Yakuza and its working for them. Show new audiences the games and make it widely available. They're now getting that Amazon Yakuza show ready, and I wouldn't be shocked to see Persona doing something similar.

But SEGA have nothing to do with Atlus sucess.

Atlus made good games before SEGA dude. They already had a good reputation before. People should stop acting like Atlus is only good now. Atlus was always that good.

 

[Vyse]

I did my part!

 

[Yoboman]

Whats the platform breakdown

 

[Danjin44]

This year has been phenomenal for Atlus, they released multiple games and two of them brand new IP.

 

[Punished Miku]

But SEGA have nothing to do with Atlus sucess.

Atlus made good games before SEGA dude. They already had a good reputation before. People should stop acting like Atlus is only good now. Atlus was always that good.

I dont think I commented on the quality of the game. If Sega was actually involved with that I'd expect the releases to be much, much faster and on a much newer engine. I was just talking about things a publisher does to help grow their brands.

 

[XXL]

Metaphor is 2 disc's on Xbox? Wtf.

Has there been any other 2 disc games on Xbox (or PS5). I don't buy disc's.

 

[Hookshot]

The East continues to dominate 2024

Also, Persona fans are ravenous as fuck

Just wait until the alarm clock

 

[cireza]

People should stop acting like Atlus is only good now.

People ? Who actually ? Everybody agrees to say that Atlus games were good before and are still good today.

How their releases are managed has totally changed in terms of timing and translations, and this can be witnessed by everybody as well. And this is thanks to SEGA.

 

[Revolutionary]

I’m really liking this “every Japanese game comes out on PC” era.

Meanwhile, Vanillaware:

 

[Chuck Berry]

Just wait until the alarm clock

The Alarmo Entertainment System?

 

[Hookshot]

The Alarmo Entertainment System?

GMT Digital Time Saga

 

[Danjin44]

Meanwhile, Vanillaware:

I LOVE their games but their games like Unicorn Overlord make more sense on PC over Xbox.

 

[Punished Miku]

I LOVE their games but their games like Unicorn Overlord make more sense on PC over Xbox.

Why over anything? You repeat this all the time. It doesnt hurt anything putting it on Xbox. I bought the game on Xbox. From what we've heard from Atlus, Vanillaware specifically is the one that doesnt want it on PC for some weird reason. They even had games locked to Wii and Vita so I dont get your obsession with trashing Xbox.

 

[LakeOf9]

that word of mouth was from persona 5, idk how you gauge word of mouth? your own personal circle? none of my friends care.

What word of mouth was from Persona 5? Persona 5 had great WoM and it ended up selling 10 million over the years.

Your friends not caring does not mean there is no word of mouth. Check the Steam CCU charts. Check the bestseller and most played lists on PSN and XBL. Check the Amazon charts. Check the user reviews on Steam. Check the Google Trends graph. Check the articles run by every single site for the last week declaring this a GOTY contender.

If you think none of that will translate into sustained interest and sales, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Danjin44]

Why over anything? You repeat this all the time. It doesnt hurt anything putting it on Xbox. I bought the game on Xbox. From what we've heard from Atlus Vanillaware specifically is the one that doesnt want it on PC for some weird reason.

My point is games like Unicorn Overlord has more audience on PC compare to Xbox. My hope is Vanillaware release their games for every platform but if they were going to choose, they should chosen PC over Xbox.

 

[Punished Miku]

My point is games like Unicorn Overlord has more audience on PC compare to Xbox. My hope is Vanillaware release their games for every platform but if they were going to choose, they should chosen PC over Xbox.

Sega puts their games everywhere. Vanillaware is requesting to keep it off PC.

 

[Danjin44]

that word of mouth was from persona 5, idk how you gauge word of mouth? your own personal circle? none of my friends care.

Word of mouth was more case for game like 13 Sentinels.....people were already anticipating P5 thanks to success of P4.

 

[simpatico]

Nature is healing

 

[Danjin44]

Sega puts their games everywhere. Vanillaware is requesting to keep it off PC.

Yeah, thats weird to me.....I like to know their reasoning behind it.

 

[Punished Miku]

Yeah, thats weird to me.....I like to know their reasoning behind it.

Yeah its weird for sure. I think some old school Japanese devs have some weird fears about it.

 

[simpatico]

Yeah I’m sure the Xbox version is pushing massive numbers and not being outsold 20 to 1 or something.

Pretty sure he means Steam. When those PS5 cases are on a dusty shelf at the flea market, it's still going to be $19.99 on Steam and moving copies every month. Publishers are going to want those legs. Borderlands 2 is barely outside the Top 500 right now and sells thousands of copies every week. I guess the downside to publishers would be people giving a side eye to remaster cash ins like Until Dawn or AC IV.

 

[Fake]

People ? Who actually ? Everybody agrees to say that Atlus games were good before and are still good today.

How their releases are managed has totally changed in terms of timing and translations, and this can be witnessed by everybody as well. And this is thanks to SEGA.

You should back to my follow up reply. SEGA is not back by any means. Atlus should be praised for their games.

Or we can agree to disagree sir.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

How many copies on Xbox I wonder

Fewer than 10,000 most likely

You can see from the poll in the OT the number of people buying on PS5 and PC vs Xbox

The only reason it has an Xbox version is because of MS moneyhats but I'm not complaining, Sega/Atlus gets free money and the game sells a million anyways

 

[skyfinch]

Damn, Series S carrying this game on it's shoulders! It's the best value for the money. Seriously, Microsoft should definitely think about making a Series S Pro. Lure in more developers and exclusive games with value and power.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Still here.

Come back when it has sold 4 million as claimed.

Also I was talking about 1 million on PC then forgotten in a month.

These figures are all Platforms and it includes shipped not sold through.

lmao. Moving the goalposts. I almost love it. If p5 can sell almost 3 mil on steam, Metaphor should be able to clear a mil easily on steam.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Fallout games, usually from a nobody/random normal human that'll have trouble with a single raider to a guy that could John Wick through a entire army of soldiers equipped with highly advanced power armor and energy weapons.

 

[Bloobs]

Metaphor is 2 disc's on Xbox? Wtf.

Has there been any other 2 disc games on Xbox (or PS5). I don't buy disc's.

Yes, Xbox blurays have less capacity. Disc 2 wasnt needed during install however

 

[Danjin44]

Fallout games, usually from a nobody/random normal human that'll have trouble with a single raider to a guy that could John Wick through a entire army of soldiers equipped with highly advanced power armor and energy weapons.

wrong thread?

 

[LakeOf9]

Fallout games, usually from a nobody/random normal human that'll have trouble with a single raider to a guy that could John Wick through a entire army of soldiers equipped with highly advanced power armor and energy weapons.

Wat

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Metaphor is 2 disc's on Xbox? Wtf.

Has there been any other 2 disc games on Xbox (or PS5). I don't buy disc's.

FFVII Remake and FFVII Rebirth are both 2-disc games

I have no idea why Metaphor is 2 discs on Xbox though, it's only a 26 GB size game lol

 

[Alphagear]

"Total sales" means just PC? And who claimed this game would sell 4 million? I said Persona 5 "eventually sold around 4 million". Never said Metaphor would do that.

Likewise I never said 1 million on ALL Platforms.

My post was on the Steam sales thread.

 

[Alphagear]

lmao. Moving the goalposts. I almost love it. If p5 can sell almost 3 mil on steam, Metaphor should be able to clear a mil easily on steam.

I said 1 million total sales on the Steam sales thread.

Steam Sales.

 

[Topher]

Likewise I never said 1 million on ALL Platforms.

My post was on the Steam sales thread.

That's fine. Either way, sales of the game are strong, wouldn't you say?

 

[tomato shrub]

His post is even more hilarious considering Atlus had its biggest ever growth in a franchise with Persona 5. As a PS exclusive.

And Yakuza mainstream reception began with Zero as a PS4 exclusive.

 

[Shake Your Rump]

Metaphor is 2 disc's on Xbox? Wtf.

Has there been any other 2 disc games on Xbox (or PS5). I don't buy disc's.

Both consoles have a few. PS5 had Forbidden West complete, FF7 rebirth, and (apparently) Baldur's Gate 3. I presume Xbox has far more. I mean, this game is only 41GB according to the PS5 box. Xbox doesn't seem to advertise the game size. I guess it's that PS5 file compression hard at work.

 

[XXL]

Both consoles have a few. PS5 had Forbidden West complete, FF7 rebirth, and (apparently) Baldur's Gate 3. I presume Xbox has far more. I mean, this game is only 41GB according to the PS5 box. Xbox doesn't seem to advertise the game size. I guess it's that PS5 file compression hard at work.

Wild. I had no clue. I only buy digital.

 

[Skelterz]

Now imagine if this wasn't turn based.

So happy it is

 

[clarky]

So happy it is

Obviously a Joke mate.

 

[Skelterz]

Obviously a Joke mate.

So happy it was

 

[Team Andromeda]

More than that.
The 200 new Atlus employees were hired with Sega's money, Atlus is litteraly now within the same building as AM2, RGG Studios, creating exchanges, discussions, all using Sega's infrastructures, probably some tech as well. (Even with a no limit freedom, Atlus couldn't have hired so much people in the last ten years without Sega as an airbag...)

Same shit with Alien Isolation 2, Creative Assembly is currently hiring with Sega's money...

Yep, funny how you don't get the same shit from people when it comes to Sucker Punch, Insomniac, Naughty Dog. Then, all the credit goes to SONY and how they run their studios

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Awesome to see it succeed. There were many doubters who were saying the scores would be low and one guy here (with the Rex avatar) saying this would sell less than Visions of Mana. I thought they would be wrong as the core Atlus fanbase seems to be around 1-2mil going by P3 Reload sales and so 1mil+ for this within a month was an easy prediction. Here's to 2mil and then 3, 4, 5...!

 

[Team Andromeda]

Sega is the publisher. They're acting like a good publisher.

SEGA is also the 'employer' of Atlus and all its staff, which seems lost on some people here. The same ones of course who never point out that SONY is acting like a good publisher for Naughty Dog or Sucker Punch
There's a vast difference between just publishing a game from developing and publishing a game, from your In-House studios.

 

[Oberstein]

This is impressive for a new IP with turn-based combat.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Looks like this has sold in 2 days about what Star Wars Outlaws sold in a month.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Metaphor is 2 disc's on Xbox? Wtf.

Has there been any other 2 disc games on Xbox (or PS5). I don't buy disc's.

Another poster mentioned the PS5 state of things, but actually there's quite a few multi-disc releases on Xbox as well (Remnant, 2, this Metaphor ReFantazio release, Baldur's Gate 3, etc.) For example, this Cyberpunk Ultimate Edition that I have in my collection for XSX came on 3 discs, and the Baldur's Gate 3 Deluxe Edition comes on 4 discs.

 

[ArtHands]

Seems like a trend that games are performing great sales wise on PC

 

[Alphagear]

That's fine. Either way, sales of the game are strong, wouldn't you say?

Yes and will be forgotten in a month.

 

[Mayar]

Seems like a trend that games are performing great sales wise on PC

If Atlus can get 5% of all sales to come from PC, that would be an incredible success. I think the most likely scenario is 2%-3%... at best.