SirTerry-T
Member
Focused/Lock on Charge beam and rockets..once you learn his pattern, using those will make life a lot easier!
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Fess
Member
I’m not ready to say it’s better than Super Metroid but it’s the best game I’ve played this year at least. A 10 isn’t unthinkable for me either at this point. I’m playing on two saves in parallell, one by myself learning the bosses and where to go and one with the kids beside me in a smoother play through. I’m enjoying my time a ton on both saves which is a testament on how good it is, many games aren’t fun enough to replay like that.
Critics needs to do their job at the game awards. I want to see this nominated, I want to see it win awards.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Its sitting at 9.5 for me until I complete the game and assign my final score. Could go up.
SirTerry-T
Member
I think the art design works because it is really clean looking. I imagine with more powerful hardware and the higher resolution, the temptation would be there for the artists to just add more "noodling" to every character and surface, which would make for a far messier looking game on the handheld screen.
I think if you mainly game on the big boy consoles and pc that is the most jarring aspect of gaming on the Switch hardware. The best looking games on Switch have art direction that works to the machine's strengths/limitations rather than trying to mimic what is available on other gaming hardware.
Another strong point of the game's graphics is down to the great work the animation team have put in.
Some of the story telling told just through Samus' body language is terrific
the single "fuck you" shot she unleashes when first fronting up to Kraid
Bit of a rant from me there chap but I do think it's a great looking game, all things considered
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RoboFu
One of the green rats
Everything in my body tells me not to pay 60€ for the game, because similiar indie games with same or even bigger scope cost less like the Hollow Knights of this world etc.
But all the positive reviews and opinions here make me wanna try it out.
its way better than most big games on any platforms.
TheDuskwalker
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Kingpin Rogers
Member
The one thing that I do find kinda annoying is there doesn't seem to be an easy way to walk. Even if I just tilt the stick slowly Samus starts running full charge into enemies haha.
carlosrox
Banned
It feels so good to do anything in this game.
Playing it with the controls, knowing you're playing a long awaited sequel/it being a Metroid game, being Samus again, the feeling of backtracking, progressing, and getting new items and abilities. Feels so damn good.
And the music, visuals, animation, and everything just come together to make this feel so damn satisfying.
Well, some tracks are better than others but I'll wait til I hear it all.
Playing it with the controls, knowing you're playing a long awaited sequel/it being a Metroid game, being Samus again, the feeling of backtracking, progressing, and getting new items and abilities. Feels so damn good.
And the music, visuals, animation, and everything just come together to make this feel so damn satisfying.
Well, some tracks are better than others but I'll wait til I hear it all.
Spaceman292
Banned
Samus casually charging up her shot is probably the coolest thing she's ever done
DapperSloth
Member
This game is
Exede
Member
Ah sure, i hoped for a new design. Thanks for the pic
Davey Cakes
Member
It's a Mercury Steam game AND a Nintendo EPD game. The second you start playing, you feel that Nintendo polish.
Remember how perfect Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze and Mario Odyssey felt to play? It's the same here, but for Metroid. Refined and wonderful. I've heard the word "slick" used to describe Metroid Dread and that seems accurate.
Remember how perfect Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze and Mario Odyssey felt to play? It's the same here, but for Metroid. Refined and wonderful. I've heard the word "slick" used to describe Metroid Dread and that seems accurate.
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tommib
Member
Game is drop dead gorgeous. Puts to shame most next-gen showcases. Suck it up, tech whores.
The art direction in this game is
I’m really not a fan of the Switch hardware but for this game I don’t even think about how weak the box actually is.
Queso de Grande
Member
This game has really made Samus such a bad ass.
SCB3
Member
I just started after failing GM Nightfalls in Destiny all day and yea this game already is something special, I’d not got round to playing Samus Returns’s remake so this style is a bit new to me but the first hour is really strong and the Robots are damned scary to come across when you cannot fight back.
I’ve gotta admit, I was shocked to get a game over within 5 mins of starting, that’s some classic Metroid stuff there
I’ve gotta admit, I was shocked to get a game over within 5 mins of starting, that’s some classic Metroid stuff there
Yeah those joycons are not usable in this game imo - i couldnt beat some bosses in handheld and with pro contr it was easy
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Im on pro controller. Couldn't imagine playing this portable. Its pretty demanding in terms of button use complexity.
Cutty Flam
Banned
Well worth the price tag, even if you’re in Canada
This is GOTY. Halo: Infinite is the only potential contender to possibly match or even best it. But it’ll be tough. Aside from a slight frame rate drop whilst traveling in one or two cutscenes, this game is nearing 10/10 territory. Metroid Dread is the greatest Switch game next to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. I think it’s even more enjoyable than Super Mario Odyssey, which is saying something. Definitely a top 3 game on the Nintendo Switch
This is GOTY. Halo: Infinite is the only potential contender to possibly match or even best it. But it’ll be tough. Aside from a slight frame rate drop whilst traveling in one or two cutscenes, this game is nearing 10/10 territory. Metroid Dread is the greatest Switch game next to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. I think it’s even more enjoyable than Super Mario Odyssey, which is saying something. Definitely a top 3 game on the Nintendo Switch
Aldric
Member
I beat the game.
It's very, very good. I don't know if it's better than Super because Super is a landmark in game design, codified an entire subgenre and is arguably one of the greatest videogames of all time but I'd say it's easily the first genuinely great Metroid game since the original Prime on Gamecube.
Mechanically it completely demolishes every other Metroidvania and it's not even close, Samus is a joy to control and the width and depth of the mechanics are amazing. Dread's movement is of course the 2D equivalent of what Mario Odyssey did for 3D (as in the best the industry has to offer) but what surprised me is that Mercury Steam managed to make combat almost as exciting. Phase Shift is an especially fantastic addition which makes battles so much more dynamic and intense. I particularly liked the fights against multiple Chozo robots in enclosed areas where you have to use the room's layout to maneuver and counterattack intelligently, it almost felt like a shooter version of Smash Bros. Bosses themselves are brilliant as well, definitely the best in the series and top notch even compared to other action platformers, the final boss being an obvious highlight. Finally level design should also be commanded as there's zero quest marker or overt indication of where to go next but the maps themselves are so well conceived they always nudge you towards your next objective without being necessarily linear as you'll be backtracking a lot.
If I had to give criticisms I'd say my biggest disappointment is the music and the sound design in general. The Metroid series has some of my favorite OSTs ever mainly thanks to Kenji Yamamoto's compositions and his absence here is felt. Besides Burenia's theme everything is completely forgettable which is a huge disappointment. Sound effects themselves are weak, with some laser effects sounding especially ridiculous, almost comical. I'm not a huge fan of EMMIS either even if destroying them never gets old and I appreciated how they became less of a pain the closer you got to the ending, in true Metroid fashion.
Overall Metroid Dread is the long awaited return to form the franchise needed after a decade of terrible spinoffs and an ill timed remake. Now here's hoping it's enough of a commercial success to cement Metroid as a regular Nintendo IP. Mercury Steam have certainly done their part, now do yours and buy the game. Best game I've played this year easily (and last year too).
We made it back home safely Metroidbros.
It's very, very good. I don't know if it's better than Super because Super is a landmark in game design, codified an entire subgenre and is arguably one of the greatest videogames of all time but I'd say it's easily the first genuinely great Metroid game since the original Prime on Gamecube.
Mechanically it completely demolishes every other Metroidvania and it's not even close, Samus is a joy to control and the width and depth of the mechanics are amazing. Dread's movement is of course the 2D equivalent of what Mario Odyssey did for 3D (as in the best the industry has to offer) but what surprised me is that Mercury Steam managed to make combat almost as exciting. Phase Shift is an especially fantastic addition which makes battles so much more dynamic and intense. I particularly liked the fights against multiple Chozo robots in enclosed areas where you have to use the room's layout to maneuver and counterattack intelligently, it almost felt like a shooter version of Smash Bros. Bosses themselves are brilliant as well, definitely the best in the series and top notch even compared to other action platformers, the final boss being an obvious highlight. Finally level design should also be commanded as there's zero quest marker or overt indication of where to go next but the maps themselves are so well conceived they always nudge you towards your next objective without being necessarily linear as you'll be backtracking a lot.
If I had to give criticisms I'd say my biggest disappointment is the music and the sound design in general. The Metroid series has some of my favorite OSTs ever mainly thanks to Kenji Yamamoto's compositions and his absence here is felt. Besides Burenia's theme everything is completely forgettable which is a huge disappointment. Sound effects themselves are weak, with some laser effects sounding especially ridiculous, almost comical. I'm not a huge fan of EMMIS either even if destroying them never gets old and I appreciated how they became less of a pain the closer you got to the ending, in true Metroid fashion.
Overall Metroid Dread is the long awaited return to form the franchise needed after a decade of terrible spinoffs and an ill timed remake. Now here's hoping it's enough of a commercial success to cement Metroid as a regular Nintendo IP. Mercury Steam have certainly done their part, now do yours and buy the game. Best game I've played this year easily (and last year too).
We made it back home safely Metroidbros.
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Resident Cheap Arse
Holy crap, that second boss did a number on me. Finally beat him but not before it extracted many deaths and prompted a 5 minute break to compose myself
Kraid
Awesome fight but absolutely had me until I finally took a break, thought it over and went back with a more calm and considered approach.
That was really good boss design. The size of him and number of things he throws at you (literally) really can throw you off and lead to reactive panic, but it's all so well calculated that if you just take the time to process it and figure out the patterns, spacing and a strategy it becomes completely manageable. Hell, I went from getting wrecked by bouncing bugs to calmly popping the little bastards with a charge shot as they came out and completely regaining all of my health and missiles.
Awesome fight but absolutely had me until I finally took a break, thought it over and went back with a more calm and considered approach.
That was really good boss design. The size of him and number of things he throws at you (literally) really can throw you off and lead to reactive panic, but it's all so well calculated that if you just take the time to process it and figure out the patterns, spacing and a strategy it becomes completely manageable. Hell, I went from getting wrecked by bouncing bugs to calmly popping the little bastards with a charge shot as they came out and completely regaining all of my health and missiles.
Ogbert
Member
Loving the game.
I must say, at the moment (about 8 hours in) Ori and the Will o’the Wisps is still, for me, taking the crown in terms of movement and sheer joy of moment to moment gameplay.
But there’s not a lot in it, and that might change.
OsirisBlack
Banned
This game has some of the best boss fights I have ever had the pleasure of playing through and if you're crafty enough they have even added ways to pretty much one shot certain bosses, Including this one. This game is a masterclass in level and boss design. The sound design is really good not sure why people are saying it isn't listen to this game on a good surround sound system or through a good pair of headphones. The music is the weak point and its still good not on the level of Super Metroid or Prime but it is good. (That lightning bug fight song being a serious exception. That song was so bad it distracted me.) I've changed my score from a 9/10 to a 10 going through the game on my second playthrough there is so much to actually figure out if you take your time and try shit. They intended for you to sequence break this game and they reward you for doing so. Best Metroid game since Super and easily GOTY.
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Aldric
Member
I love WotW and before Dread it absolutely was the gold standard for 2D movement but I like Dread better, it requires more effort to pull off impressive moves but when mechanics flow together it's so satisfying. Some of the shinespark puzzles in this game are legitimately hardcore, require inputs that look like a trial in a fighting game.
Matchew
Member
Just beat the 2nd boss, took me around five times to finally beat him, but it was amazing. This game is really really good. Like many here I'm not ready to put it above Super (still like fusion more too), but it's shaping up nicely. Even the EMMI encounters I am enjoying, when I thought I would hate them. A do wish I could control Samus with the d-pad and wish the environments were drastically different from one another. Areas kinda look samey.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
This game is really great
But the controls let it down a tad
But the controls let it down a tad
Marty-McFly
Banned
This game actually has the best controls out of any game I've ever played.
Really fluid and intuitive.
I think it's so good it will even immediately grab the attention of casuals and hardcore alike.
Sales already seem explosive in North America from the data we have on Amazon and Gamestop.
Really fluid and intuitive.
I think it's so good it will even immediately grab the attention of casuals and hardcore alike.
Sales already seem explosive in North America from the data we have on Amazon and Gamestop.
Buggy Loop
Member
Wow the game is so hard. I’m up to Ghavoran, I can’t count how many times i died.
One of the toughest 2D games in recent years
One of the toughest 2D games in recent years
Astral Dog
Member
Finally got the game today! played a couple hours, on Cataris
First, the game controls like a dream, every action, animation, frame is polished to perfection,the visuals look very nice atmospheric but im just not a fan of the EMMI areas.
I was expecting the Dreaded difficulty but so far its been a breeze, 2 bosses down and all enemies are easy to kill, however the Emmis have catched me a few times, i don't consider them part of the normal gameplay, but its something to learn and figure out how to avoid them, obviously this is still early and i had alot of trouble with Samus Return digger robot so we will see
It all sounds very positive, but there are two big points im not sure about, Dread lacks the charm of earlier 2D Metroids specially the soundtrack is very bland so far, and this Metroid IS very linear, yeah you can explore later but the game totally guides you and closes off doors you are not supposed to go. Its a mix of Fusion and Super(without Fusion constant twisting plot) so gamers expecting a traditional Metroidvania or Super 2.0 might be dissapointed with how the game guides and limits you.
First, the game controls like a dream, every action, animation, frame is polished to perfection,the visuals look very nice atmospheric but im just not a fan of the EMMI areas.
I was expecting the Dreaded difficulty but so far its been a breeze, 2 bosses down and all enemies are easy to kill, however the Emmis have catched me a few times, i don't consider them part of the normal gameplay, but its something to learn and figure out how to avoid them, obviously this is still early and i had alot of trouble with Samus Return digger robot so we will see
It all sounds very positive, but there are two big points im not sure about, Dread lacks the charm of earlier 2D Metroids specially the soundtrack is very bland so far, and this Metroid IS very linear, yeah you can explore later but the game totally guides you and closes off doors you are not supposed to go. Its a mix of Fusion and Super(without Fusion constant twisting plot) so gamers expecting a traditional Metroidvania or Super 2.0 might be dissapointed with how the game guides and limits you.
Marty-McFly
Banned
I can't wait for Prime after this.
I bet the artstyle and feel bares similarities.
This might well be the best 2D and 3D game ever.
I bet the artstyle and feel bares similarities.
This might well be the best 2D and 3D game ever.
Funny how they made Samus such a fantastic bad ass. No big words, just sheer confidence conveyed by demeanor/body language.
I hope the industry is taking notes.
Aldric
Member
After playing Dread I really hope for two things in Prime 4: the return of Yamamoto as a composer and more movement options/faster walk speed for Samus. I've always loved the Prime games but the sacrifices made in terms of mobility hurt them. I don't know how they could implement it but managing to include the speedbooster and shinespark with 3rd person transition like with the morphball and screw attack would be a huge achievement.
mcjmetroid
Member
Super Metroid still wins in my opinion in area variety and music.
But loses to me in controls.
It's quite close though.
Ogbert
Member
I can’t argue with anything you say.
For the record, WotW was easily my game of the year; loved it to bits. Dread is easily in its company - I’ll see where it ends up (for me).
The only minuscule thing that holds dread back for me, is the moments where progress is halted by an obtuse, easily missed block or pathway. I get, however, that this feature is something that many actively love in a more ‘hardcore’ Metroidvania; so my flaw is another’s strength.
mcjmetroid
Member
I mean it's not terrible just very unmemorable.. it's fantastic when it's remastering the older tracks.. well the two of them anyway you know the ones.
It's an odd one. They definitely choose the atmospheric style over melodic. For atmosphere it's too notch.
Fess
Member
I like good tech but art direction can definitely do more for the visuals than whatever insane detail devs pour into some AAA releases.
Just reached this area
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mcjmetroid
Member
I think what I loved about the weeks leading up to dread from its announcement and its release was how confident the developers were. It was constant gameplay footage, explanations of the mechanics and showing you the powerups. I was concerned at the time they were showing too much... But no they had plenty more not shown. It was just... " Here is our game, it's ready and we can't wait to show it you" and then BAM it released no bullshit.
One thing I'll always give Nintendo over the other companies is that they'll always show gameplay. Sometimes yes.. it'll get a bad reaction but there is very rarely the cinematic cutscene nonsense of other company reveals
One thing I'll always give Nintendo over the other companies is that they'll always show gameplay. Sometimes yes.. it'll get a bad reaction but there is very rarely the cinematic cutscene nonsense of other company reveals
timonlionbladerunner
Member
This game is damn good, but man do I suck ass. E.M.M.I.'s and the first boss have killed me more times than I would care to admit. Definitely user error + a little bit of Switch joystick sensitivity when trying to aim down at the E.M.M.I.'s head.
Buggy Loop
Member
I don’t know.. I think a tattoo on the forehead that says damaged would sell the idea she’s a badass more.
/s
SCB3
Member
Man this is becoming special, I just beat the first boss (I think, a Scorpion thing) and I love the exploration, this may take Hollow Knights crown for me in this genre.
I have noted that the controls can be a bit messy, the Omega beam for the E.M.M.I robots was something I found a bit cumbersome, almost like I want the controls for the shoulder buttons to be flipped around, but the CP system is pretty decent and never puts me too far back
I have noted that the controls can be a bit messy, the Omega beam for the E.M.M.I robots was something I found a bit cumbersome, almost like I want the controls for the shoulder buttons to be flipped around, but the CP system is pretty decent and never puts me too far back
Marty-McFly
Banned
Messy is not the right word. The controls are succinct and work perfectly. Complex would be a better choice of words.