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Metroid Other M |OT| You're Not Supposed to Remember Him
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AceBandage
Banned
Finally got a text from GS.
Should be there in the morning.
Should be there in the morning.
Would it kill you to hear me say that I'm someone that's never particularly felt strongly about the nonlinearity of Metroid games...?etiolate said:
I've already admitted to being the sort of fan of this franchise that most other fans dislike, so perhaps that has more to do with why I'm presenting my points from where they are.Potentially true, though you are making assumptions about some of the intent behind the gameplay and story decisions that were made. It isn't impossible that this is just how Sakamoto felt it would be best to both translate the 2-D style of Metroid into a third person 3-D experience, as well as give players a direct insight into Samus' character, with cutscenes and narration being the easiest ways of doing so. While I'm on this point, though, I will admit that I'm also of the opinion that Sakamoto made some of these choices, not just about the way the story is presented but also Samus' character in and of itself, with the thought of making her a more popular and sympathetic character to the Japanese audience, which typically hasn't held Metroid up to the levels of popularity the series sees elsewhere. He made it a point that improving accessibility was a major focus for him during development.
Incidentally, it's extremely hard to get too heated or take things too seriously when this
is what I have to debate against. I always have liked those damn disco cats...
boiled goose
good with gravy
evilromero said:Mine shipped from Amazon this morning. But I pre-ordered last year.
mine just shipped from amazon as well
Oh boy.
I definitely get the feeling that this will not end up my favorite Metroid game.
I'm only an hour in, but so far the cutscenes, VA (Samus is decent, some third party NPCs are awful), and graphics have pleasantly surprised me. At least compared to my earlier exposure/expectations. I kind of dig the revisiting of past events, even if the delivery is flawed and the cutscenes occasionally too numerous/lengthy. Not sure how I like this at least partially following up Super Metroid and seemingly both ignoring and aping Fusion, at its convenience.
The gameplay, most importantly, has decidedly not pleased me.
The NES style sideways remote controls that they went with are such an obviously stupid idea, I can't believe that they didn't at least ALLOW us another option. The first person aiming mechanic is clunkier than it should be (MP3/MPT); invisible walls have no place in a Metroid game; and if you're going to fucking make only certain surfaces wall-jump-able, at least have the fucking decency to mark them, like the Prime games did. Also, what the fuck were they thinking with the strange tank controls for those weird and occasionally random over-the-shoulder third person rooms? It only excels at driving home how awful the d-pad controls are. Though the terrible 8-direction-only digital running/navigating comes up as a close second.
*sigh*
At least the combat against the more complicated creatures is surprisingly great, and the general ambiance and mood are satisfying.
Here's hoping that the game will grow on me tomorrow.
Metroid is like Zelda, in that I'm not sure I could bear flat-out not liking an iteration.
I definitely get the feeling that this will not end up my favorite Metroid game.
I'm only an hour in, but so far the cutscenes, VA (Samus is decent, some third party NPCs are awful), and graphics have pleasantly surprised me. At least compared to my earlier exposure/expectations. I kind of dig the revisiting of past events, even if the delivery is flawed and the cutscenes occasionally too numerous/lengthy. Not sure how I like this at least partially following up Super Metroid and seemingly both ignoring and aping Fusion, at its convenience.
The gameplay, most importantly, has decidedly not pleased me.
The NES style sideways remote controls that they went with are such an obviously stupid idea, I can't believe that they didn't at least ALLOW us another option. The first person aiming mechanic is clunkier than it should be (MP3/MPT); invisible walls have no place in a Metroid game; and if you're going to fucking make only certain surfaces wall-jump-able, at least have the fucking decency to mark them, like the Prime games did. Also, what the fuck were they thinking with the strange tank controls for those weird and occasionally random over-the-shoulder third person rooms? It only excels at driving home how awful the d-pad controls are. Though the terrible 8-direction-only digital running/navigating comes up as a close second.
*sigh*
At least the combat against the more complicated creatures is surprisingly great, and the general ambiance and mood are satisfying.
Here's hoping that the game will grow on me tomorrow.
Metroid is like Zelda, in that I'm not sure I could bear flat-out not liking an iteration.
Doorman:
Well that does make you different for a Metroid fan.
I do think many decisions were made to make Metroid more Japanese friendly. Was it worth it? Don't know.
I don't think any of the changes attempted in Prime 2 or 3 to make the game more Halo-fan friendly were worth it at all.
Well that does make you different for a Metroid fan.
I do think many decisions were made to make Metroid more Japanese friendly. Was it worth it? Don't know.
I don't think any of the changes attempted in Prime 2 or 3 to make the game more Halo-fan friendly were worth it at all.
Ericescobar15
Neo Member
Mine just shipped from Amazon. Everyone should start receiving notices now.
Teknoman said:
The transition can be annoying, but the worst part of it is that screen won't scroll unless you hold down the B button. Should have a hitbox beyond which the screen will auto-scroll, leaving the B button JUST for locking on. As it is now, the B button is weirdly dual-purpose, doubling both as a lock on as well as a screen scroll unlock toggle, depending on circumstance.
Wall-jumping isn't opened up JUST in really obvious locations. There are the occasional locations where it's available but worthless. It's just that there's no real visual indicator as to when you can use it (beyond the obvious architecture), and is otherwise broken by the many invisible walls.
_Alkaline_
Member
Teknoman said:
Is there an image more hilarious, creepy and awesome at the same time?
Boney said:
Sorry for the late response. Well Visa Colombia has some sort of deal with a company called ultrabox, Visa pays you the annual fee (like $20) and they open a p.o. box in miami. You then manage an account in which they let you know when a package arrives. You can then tell them to send the items immediately or wait. They charge you all the taxes and shipping in one bill and put it to your credit card as well. This is specially great for books because books don't pay taxes here. I don't know if there's something similar in Chile, with Visa or any other credit company. I think it would be even cheaper if you have a friend, ultrabox shipping isn't exactly cheap, although it arrives quickly, but with a friend you are more free to chose the shipping method.
And talking about that, Amazon just told me my order was shipped! estimated delivery time is september 1! :O I really didn't expect it to get it that fast with the free shipping, it usually takes a week. Let's hope it actually arrives on time.
"Worth it," to Nintendo, means increased sales of Other M in Japan over previous Metroids, the Primes in particular, and some increased interest in the franchise there.etiolate said:
So...some people don't like that this game is going more mainstream-Japan-friendly, while others didn't like that some of the Prime subseries (3 in particular) took steps to make it more mainstream-America-friendly. I think that Metroid will, literally, forever be a franchise that cannot please its fanbase, possibly moreso than any other major franchise I can think of.
donkey show
Member
I never really had too much of an issue with the FPS controls until multiple enemies start swarming the screen and locking on the exact target you want became an issue. Aside from that, it's really been point, shoot, bang, dead.Teknoman said:
Teknoman said:
Fimbulvetr
Member
Teknoman said:
SA-X is angry with you.
ShockingAlberto
Member
So I still can't get a read on if this is amazing or terrible.
People I trust tend to think it's great (Chris Kohler, Brad Shoemaker, etc.) The GAF impressions have been bad.
It's confusing. Maybe this is a game that benefits from no expectations - not necessarily low ones, but none whatsoever.
People I trust tend to think it's great (Chris Kohler, Brad Shoemaker, etc.) The GAF impressions have been bad.
It's confusing. Maybe this is a game that benefits from no expectations - not necessarily low ones, but none whatsoever.
marathonfool
Member
The game can be good and still be underwhelming for a Metroid game. I highly regard this franchise.ShockingAlberto said:
ShockingAlberto said:
I literally have none. I've let most of the impressions from other GAFfers go right through me. Gonna pick this up and have whatever fun I have with it.
That's how I approach all but a few games these days, and it really works out for the better. No mindless watching of previews, no eating up every single morsel of detail. Just renting or buying games and playing them.
Doorman said:
I think that it is a game series that won't attract the masses in the same way a Zelda, Mario or Halo do. Trying to make it appealing to that crowd will only manage to get a small percentage of outsiders to the fanbase while turning off a larger percentage of the established userbase. It's not like Prime 3 eventually won over the Halo crowd.
Not all great film or TV has mass appeal. Maybe Metroid is just the gaming equivalent of critically acclaimed but never, ever mass market accepted television.
As an action game, what makes it stand out? Really? People have said it's tame for Team Ninja, and others say its off the mark for Metroid.
MadOdorMachine
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The general consensus I get is that the gameplay is good, but has some room for improvement and the story while there and in step with Metroid lore is presented in a very unfavorable manner.ShockingAlberto said:
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Almost 9 hours on the clock. I thiiink I'm pretty close to the end.
Welp, Metroid had a good run I guess.
Welp, Metroid had a good run I guess.
brandonh83
Banned
Lost Fragment said:
oh goodness :lol
CoffeeJanitor
Member
I've put around 2-3 hours into the game. It definitely feels like a sequel to Fusion, which makes sense, considering that was the last 'mainline' entry into the series.
I really feel like the controls have evolved, but they're definitely a little rough on the edges, IMO. The main issue I've had is the precision jumps that must be made during battle--it's quite hard to judge jumps while in a 3D perspective. Games like SMG and SMS were obviously made with this in mind (go back and play SM64 and tell me you don't want to be able to spin). I may need to just spend a bit more time playing to get used to the controls, as this game is really unique, and I don't mean that in a bad way. Quite the evolution of the Metroid formula.
With these things in mind (along with the, imo, unneeded, overdramatic cutscenes/story) I can definitely understand the love/hate thing that's going on with the press for this game.
I really feel like the controls have evolved, but they're definitely a little rough on the edges, IMO. The main issue I've had is the precision jumps that must be made during battle--it's quite hard to judge jumps while in a 3D perspective. Games like SMG and SMS were obviously made with this in mind (go back and play SM64 and tell me you don't want to be able to spin). I may need to just spend a bit more time playing to get used to the controls, as this game is really unique, and I don't mean that in a bad way. Quite the evolution of the Metroid formula.
With these things in mind (along with the, imo, unneeded, overdramatic cutscenes/story) I can definitely understand the love/hate thing that's going on with the press for this game.
MadOdorMachine
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Looks like my Amazon order isn't shipping until September 7 so I'm off to Walmart to get it there in a few minutes. Whenever I get the game in from Amazon I'll return it to Walmart for a refund. I thought I could wait to play this, but I'm too excited! This is the first traditional Metroid game to hit a console since 1994 one SNES!
Sin & Punishment disagrees.PounchEnvy said:The Wii lacks quality action games? I mean outside of No More Heroes that is.
marathonfool
Member
You too? =/Lost Fragment said:
Doorman said:
I'm so glad I'm a member of the Metroid fanbase, it's possibly my favorite franchise, and I like every game I've played. The only games I haven't played are the original NES game and Metroid II.
Gravijah said:
I was on media blackout for this game since its unveiling at E3 2009. Hell, I was at E3 this year, and I avoided it at all costs. I came away having had a lot of fun with the game and have already a) started the post-game to collect 100% of the items with my first save file, AND b) started a new file to clear the game in a quicker manner. You can skip all cutscenes on a new file after having beaten it once.
AceBandage
Banned
ShockingAlberto said:
From what I can tell, it's a great game unless you're a rabid Metroid fan that feel it should only be a certain way.
Kind of like Zelda fans.