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Metroid Other M |OT| You're Not Supposed to Remember Him
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re: the unlock system
I really don't see why it's that big of a deal. She is a former soldier, why the hell should she just go on the planet and wreak havoc on her own? Adam asked for her cooperation, and she complied. Adam feels that the cooperation of all the parties present on the ship are imperative for the survival of everyone, that's why he asked that Samus follow all his orders. That sounds pretty believable to me, and makes a lot more sense than "oh hey here's a weapon sitting on a chozo statue in the middle of the room custom fitted for samus aran, that nobody cared enough to actually observe it and just left it alone".
Admittedly though there are some "fuck you adam let me use my <insert upgrade here>" parts though :lol
I really don't see why it's that big of a deal. She is a former soldier, why the hell should she just go on the planet and wreak havoc on her own? Adam asked for her cooperation, and she complied. Adam feels that the cooperation of all the parties present on the ship are imperative for the survival of everyone, that's why he asked that Samus follow all his orders. That sounds pretty believable to me, and makes a lot more sense than "oh hey here's a weapon sitting on a chozo statue in the middle of the room custom fitted for samus aran, that nobody cared enough to actually observe it and just left it alone".
Admittedly though there are some "fuck you adam let me use my <insert upgrade here>" parts though :lol
SpacePirate Ridley
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miksar said:
And it was talked also that Sakamotos has called the "organization" in the zero mission manga and what is seems also Other M.
Nintendo as a company, when does advertising in webs or magazines, and even manuals, have said lots of things about characters and they are not always right.
Threi said:
Sure it works, but IMO it was way more rewarding to get items after solving puzzles and/or killing bosses rather than having a character just say "OK, you can use your missiles now."
I still like the game, it just seems like an odd design choice for a Nintendo game.
SpacePirate Ridley
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Oh, Im loving the hype of posters playing it.
Seems that I will love it.
Seems that I will love it.
I will miss the item orbs of Super Metroid. It's always exciting to grab one and see what it is, it's like when you slowly open a big chest in Zelda and the duhduhduhduh music plays, I love that feeling. It's like opening up a christmas present.
Easier said than done.
Easier said than done.
I'm about an hour in and have a bad first impression... In that hour, it doesn't feel like I've played much due to all the cutscenes (I hear that gets better, but I'd like to jump into the action a bit before I hear a long story). I also died several times on the first "boss," and not necessarily fairly IMO (more in learning the controls and the 1st to 3rd person shift & what not). I'm early in the game, Sector 1 (where I died again against invisible creatures), but once I get the concepts down it will feel better and gel, I hope. Samus moves a lot quicker than I thought, the item (missile expansion) pickup tune is gone, and in general, it doesn't really feel like Metroid at all to me, so far.
Incitemaybe
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From reading this thread I was under the impression that I could replenish my health whenever I had a free chance.
So far this is not the case, you have to be very low on health to replenish at all.
So far this is not the case, you have to be very low on health to replenish at all.
pulga
Banned
Threi said:
SalsaShark said:
HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE
Threi said:
I'm playing through Fusion right now, and Samus mentions how much she hates following orders. I think through the Adam authorization crap in Other M, we're supposed to start feeling the same sentiments Samus expresses in Fusion. :lol
Yeah... um... just saw the X-play review of this... and it confirms that G4 has no business reviewing games AND that Morgan Webb needs to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up. She was quite the cunt during Nintendo's E3 coverage too, as I recall.
Even if half the praise in this thread is fanboy fanfare, Other M still sounds like a ton of fun. Spending an entire review bitching about how Samus isn't a positive female role model (The fuck? She's the first positive female lead that springs to my mind.) and how 'magically regenerating' ammo in a videogame is stupid? Shut up already.
I'm considering digging into my already meager savings for this tasty title.
Even if half the praise in this thread is fanboy fanfare, Other M still sounds like a ton of fun. Spending an entire review bitching about how Samus isn't a positive female role model (The fuck? She's the first positive female lead that springs to my mind.) and how 'magically regenerating' ammo in a videogame is stupid? Shut up already.
I'm considering digging into my already meager savings for this tasty title.
MadOdorMachine
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This is some stupid fucking shit. I probably would have been stuck here for half an hour too without your help. I hate complaining about some of this stuff so much, but wtf were they thinking by adding this? It isn't fun at all. Thanks for the help btw.Metroid said:
Anyway, now that I'm in the game a little, Samus' voice isn't quite as annoying. In some situations I have to avoid using missiles in order to be able to dodge and retain health. So far my biggest complaint is when they force you into first person mode.
Glass Joe said:
Yeah, I thought I heard a faint tune whenever I started the game from a save point though. The music is mainly ambient and without melody. I would have liked to have heard the power up noises as well get your energy/missiles replenished from killing baddies. Oh well, onto the game again!
farnham said:
Right, that's why I said "G4 has no business review games" before I launched into my anti-Webb rant. Also, is it confirmed she didn't write it?
(Edit: Yeah, looked up the full review which the X-play review seems to be adapted from. The review is completely obsessed with the story and presentation and very quickly glosses over the actual gameplay mechanics, just enough to make fun of them.)
Other M review aside... E3 coverage... Cunt... statement still stands.
friskykillface
Banned
:O It's here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
haha it came in a sorta big box, <3 amazon
also that $20 credit is
off to play
haha it came in a sorta big box, <3 amazon
also that $20 credit is
off to play
my review's up http://ctrlaltkill.org/?p=7298
Square Triangle
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My Wii can't read the disc! =(
I guess I need that Nintendo Wii Lense Cleaner..at least that's what I hope.
I guess I need that Nintendo Wii Lense Cleaner..at least that's what I hope.
Tritroid
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Well I was just kind of a lurker in this thread until today, but now I've actually gotten to play it. I'm about 7-8 hours in, most of the items I've gotten, and the story (which most complained about in reviews) is actually not that bad.
Pros:
-This game just feels more like Metroid to me than the Prime games did. I loved the Prime series for what it accomplished, but a lot of Metroid: Other M feels like someone took Super Metroid and remade it in mostly 2.5/3D. The colors/graphics are precisely on par with the 2D installments.
-The combat is fluid and fun as hell. I was worried about auto-aiming at first, but not anymore. It actually allows the game to run just like 2D Metroid, especially in tight corridors. The dodge/special moves feel a little too easy to pull off however, so I'm not really a fan of those, but they are flashy and most look awesome.
-I swear the game doesn't let you slow down. People who were complaining about too many cutscenes must have been playing an entirely different god damn game, because up to this point (other than the opening), I've seen ONE massive cutscene that really slowed the action down. Other than that, there have been mobs/creatures/insects around every frigging corner, and it amazes me how they introduce NEW creatures at almost every turn. (Even RIGHT after boss battles, which is semi-cruel).
-The difficulty is right where I'd like it to be with Metroid. I've been playing the series since the original, so I'm a veteran and know how to jump right into a Metroid title (especially one that plays like this), but I've still died a few times here and there because enemies were relentless. This is not too easy, and it's not too hard, there's a really good balance.
-I mentioned the story earlier, and yeah it really isn't that bad, in fact I'm kind of liking where it's going. People who said that the voice acting tended to get better further into the game were right too...for some reason the opening acting is really stiff and just plain bad in some areas, but it really does get better.
Cons:
-I'm not a fan of one-shot kills, especially ones you really don't see coming.
All that really does is aggravate.
-I like the ambiance in most areas, but they REALLY missed the boat for some great music here. One thing Super Metroid, Zero Mission, and hell even Metroid II had going was some absolutely fantastic music in the majority of the game segments, and Other M definitely falls short in this department. Granted, I can understand if the developers were going for a more forced sense of isolation by incorporating nothing but distant hums, clicks, enemy howls, etc. but there should have been a much better soundtrack, hands down.
-I'm kind of mixed regarding the first person controls thus far. Using just the remote and that insanely tiny d-pad had me worried before playing, but that actually feels great. The first person however...for some reason I have yet to actually get a natural flow going when I need to use it. I think it might have something to do with going through 3 Prime installations, and being able to move every which way while in that view, because going into it and being forced to sit there just feels wrong. My feelings towards it might change later, but for now I'm still not really liking it. Also, I really dislike how missiles can ONLY be fired while in the first-person view.
Overall I'm loving the game, whole-heartedly. I hardly want to put it down after firing it up.
Gonna go un-pause it now. :lol
Pros:
-This game just feels more like Metroid to me than the Prime games did. I loved the Prime series for what it accomplished, but a lot of Metroid: Other M feels like someone took Super Metroid and remade it in mostly 2.5/3D. The colors/graphics are precisely on par with the 2D installments.
-The combat is fluid and fun as hell. I was worried about auto-aiming at first, but not anymore. It actually allows the game to run just like 2D Metroid, especially in tight corridors. The dodge/special moves feel a little too easy to pull off however, so I'm not really a fan of those, but they are flashy and most look awesome.
-I swear the game doesn't let you slow down. People who were complaining about too many cutscenes must have been playing an entirely different god damn game, because up to this point (other than the opening), I've seen ONE massive cutscene that really slowed the action down. Other than that, there have been mobs/creatures/insects around every frigging corner, and it amazes me how they introduce NEW creatures at almost every turn. (Even RIGHT after boss battles, which is semi-cruel).
-The difficulty is right where I'd like it to be with Metroid. I've been playing the series since the original, so I'm a veteran and know how to jump right into a Metroid title (especially one that plays like this), but I've still died a few times here and there because enemies were relentless. This is not too easy, and it's not too hard, there's a really good balance.
-I mentioned the story earlier, and yeah it really isn't that bad, in fact I'm kind of liking where it's going. People who said that the voice acting tended to get better further into the game were right too...for some reason the opening acting is really stiff and just plain bad in some areas, but it really does get better.
I'm really really liking the twists though, especially the moment where Samus realizes that delivering the baby metroid to the science research facility at the start of Super Metroid was something that Adam would have been completely opposed to, and may have even helped to fuel the fire behind the Federation pursuing the use of biological weapons; That REALLY tied everything from Super Metroid into Other M, and I loved it.
Cons:
-I'm not a fan of one-shot kills, especially ones you really don't see coming.
I've encountered about 2 moments so far where unless you've played the game or that area prior to your first arrival, you won't have any clue how to avoid an insta-death.
-I like the ambiance in most areas, but they REALLY missed the boat for some great music here. One thing Super Metroid, Zero Mission, and hell even Metroid II had going was some absolutely fantastic music in the majority of the game segments, and Other M definitely falls short in this department. Granted, I can understand if the developers were going for a more forced sense of isolation by incorporating nothing but distant hums, clicks, enemy howls, etc. but there should have been a much better soundtrack, hands down.
Most of the AWESOME music is actually used for the opening title and story summary screens, nothing actually in-game
-I'm kind of mixed regarding the first person controls thus far. Using just the remote and that insanely tiny d-pad had me worried before playing, but that actually feels great. The first person however...for some reason I have yet to actually get a natural flow going when I need to use it. I think it might have something to do with going through 3 Prime installations, and being able to move every which way while in that view, because going into it and being forced to sit there just feels wrong. My feelings towards it might change later, but for now I'm still not really liking it. Also, I really dislike how missiles can ONLY be fired while in the first-person view.
Overall I'm loving the game, whole-heartedly. I hardly want to put it down after firing it up.
Gonna go un-pause it now. :lol
Threi is right. Like I've been saying, this is better than Prime. The dpad controls are great, the aiming is okay, the settings and bosses are great, everything is very well animated, the items are fun to figure out how to reach, and the health regen isn't exactly CoD. Being able to hold my attention during combat does wonders when comparing the game to Prime.
donkey show
Member
Holy shit and I thought I loved Other M. :lol You're either going to love or hate this game, with a little smattering in between.Threi said:
I'd definitely like to hear your thoughts if you decide to play hard mode.
SalsaShark said:
it's ironic that this concentration actually makes sense within the series since in another Metroid game it was implied the suit has mini-factories that produce ammo (i think it was in one of the primes where i read that from a scan) and the floating missiles/health after killing an enemy are the truly non-sensical things.
Fantasy Final
Member
She also said that Mario Galaxy 2 is too cartoony and not enough 3DRetro said:
donkey show
Member
LOL. But I've really enjoyed hard mode so far. Like I mentioned earlier, hard mode should be renamed Metroid Gaiden and I feel it's how Team Ninja really wanted you to experience Other M. The additional damage you take on top of no expansions whatsoever really put you to the test, especiallyTain said:
right before you get the Varia Suit, nerve wracking but awesome
Gamespy gives it 3/5.
Their major complaint regarded the first person segments.
Their major complaint regarded the first person segments.
My guess on 1st Person and why it affects some more than others is both on their gaming setup, distance to TV, light from windows, position from the chair both in height and angle.
And how enthusiastic you get in pointing. For it to work, you have to do it fast and precise, and I can see people not having the energy to do it.
Oh and did Abbie play Fusion or not?
And how enthusiastic you get in pointing. For it to work, you have to do it fast and precise, and I can see people not having the energy to do it.
Oh and did Abbie play Fusion or not?
Air Zombie Meat
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colon said:
It's because the game is on a dual layer DVD. Some Wii's (mainly launch models i think) just won't read them due to a crappy drive. I have the same problem
Would like to hear if the lens cleaner works too.Threi said:
IAWTP. I'd probably be more likely to replay and pick this up again in the future compared to a Prime game. Like I said earlier. This is where Metroid belongs. In third person, and this new visceral action is a very welcome addition that fits Samus. To Other M and beyond!
Honestly people just needed to play it and screw the reviews.