Metroid Prime 4: Beyond, overview trailer (Switch 2)

It's really important to separate out the different elements of this aspect and understand the nature of the complaints about it.

There is the presence of an NPC who spends a possibly more than trivial amount of time alongside you or talking to you on radio. How does this effect the atmosphere and detract from the isolation etc that attracts many to the previous games.

There is the nature of the dialogue that the character speaks like telling you how to do stuff that is simple and obvious like shooting an object or telling you that enemies you can see are doing something when you already know that.

Then there is the writing and characterisation of that said NPC(s).

Even if you make some sort of argument for Myles as a way to make the game mote "accessible" then it still remains that the for people who don't at all need this additional guidance (personally I'd argue nobody does, this series could be played by a child) then you still have to contend with the quality of the writing and the amount of time that NPC(s) spend with you, detracting from the isolation.

What I'm saying is it's one thing to say - without further detail - that there is a NPC(s) that spend some time with you in the game. It's another to say that they are pointing out obvious stuff to you that is just insulting and yet another to say that they are written the way that Myles is.

If I accept the argument that I must be cool with this because it will help broaden the series appeal because of improved accessibility then I will still ask why does this new NPC character who will be tagging along ruining the vibes for at least some time while telling me to check my map - why does that NPC have to sound/look/act like THIS?

Why? Who wants this character and this writing in the game? People would feel a least somewhat better about this if the character seemed interesting, cool or that their presence would somehow add to the atmosphere.
 
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I for one have never said the visuals are bad, they lack detail, the game is fine if you dont like visually striking games, animation is also part of the visuals, and it looks ancient. All those features add to the overall experience, and if they are subpar they detract from it. So it's baffling to read comments that state that the game looks amazing or damn good. Because it doesn't even if it was designed for switch 1. Motion matching must be on Switch 2 version.
And It ALWAYS comes down to Power OR Graphics.
 
Watched a video by Skill Up on this and hmm...

For the hardcore fans out there that don't like that one new character right now, I truly hope he won't be present throughout the whole game. I haven't played the Prime games long enough, but I see these games as you are alone in a unknown location, the feeling of isolation is what's strong and having a very chatty sidekick with you......hoo boy.

But I cannot imagine they decide to have him featured for a big part in the game. It's a odd choice though, but we'll see.
 
It's really important to separate out the different elements of this aspect and understand the nature of the complaints about it.

There is the presence of an NPC who spends a possibly more than trivial amount of time alongside you or talking to you on radio. How does this effect the atmosphere and detract from the isolation etc that attracts many to the previous games.

There is the nature of the dialogue that the character speaks like telling you how to do stuff that is simple and obvious like shooting an object or telling you that enemies you can see are doing something when you already know that.

Then there is the writing and characterisation of that said NPC(s).

Even if you make some sort of argument for Myles as a way to make the game mote "accessible" then it still remains that the for people who don't at all need this additional guidance (personally I'd argue nobody does, this series could be played by a child) then you still have to contend with the quality of the writing and the amount of time that NPC(s) spend with you, detracting from the isolation.

What I'm saying is it's one thing to say - without further detail - that there is a NPC(s) that spend some time with you in the game. It's another to say that they are pointing out obvious stuff to you that is just insulting and yet another to say that they are written the way that Myles is.

If I accept the argument that I must be cool with this because it will help broaden the series appeal because of improved accessibility then I will still ask why does this new NPC character who will be tagging along ruining the vibes for at least some time while telling me to check my map - why does that NPC have to sound/look/act like THIS?

Why? Who wants this character and this writing in the game? People would feel a least somewhat better about this if the character seemed interesting, cool or that their presence would somehow add to the atmosphere.
To add to this, this is a trope that Nintendo themselves have already dabbled in with games like Skyward Sword. The large consensus is that Skyward Sword was still fine, but that the excessive handholding greatly tarnished it.

Now compound this with the fact that Zelda as a series has always had NPC's, dialogue, etc. Zelda was never about isolation, but most people still agreed that Skyward Sword leaned too far into treating the player with kid gloves. Even Nintendo recognized this, as they dialed it back in subsequent games.

By contrast, part of what makes Metroid special and unique is not only the sense of isolation, grace, and atmosphere, but the trust it places in the player. Super Metroid is arguably the greatest game of all time with regards to letting players figure things out for themselves. It's baked into the Metroid DNA, and it's something no other series does with the same level of skill.

Handholdy FPS's with chatty sidekicks are already a dime a dozen. Metroid games aren't. It's disappointing seeing Nintendo and Retro forget that.
 
Watched a video by Skill Up on this and hmm...

For the hardcore fans out there that don't like that one new character right now, I truly hope he won't be present throughout the whole game. I haven't played the Prime games long enough, but I see these games as you are alone in a unknown location, the feeling of isolation is what's strong and having a very chatty sidekick with you......hoo boy.

But I cannot imagine they decide to have him featured for a big part in the game. It's a odd choice though, but we'll see.

He will be in one section and you will meet other stranded federation troopers in other areas. They will also come together. These troopers play a huge role in the story similar and probably more than Metroid Other M. Samus is about to learn the power of friendship.
 
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Anyone think there's the possibility Nintendo will just shadow drop the Prime 2 and 3 ports/remasters the same day this comes out or reveal it the week before? Can't help but think that's a possibility.
Zero chance in my opinion
At most i could imagine them waiting some months after prime 4 to release one of the two in order to keep the Metroid Train going.
 
Personally, I'm on the fence about this game. I never played Metroid Dread either. So I'm deciding between these two. I do hope the easy mode in Dread makes the game easier.

I have never beat a Metroid game on any system.
 
Personally, I'm on the fence about this game. I never played Metroid Dread either. So I'm deciding between these two. I do hope the easy mode in Dread makes the game easier.

I have never beat a Metroid game on any system.
Totally different experiences, Prime remastered is cheap, is a good option to try and a Master Piece.
 
So the voice actor for Myles created a fake video of lines that are not in the game and there are still people who believe it


On one hand I enjoy a good taunting from time to time, on the other hand actors need to shut the eF up most of the time. Some people will believe this no doubt and I want the game to perform well. But really man, I can't imagine Retro or Nintendo at large will be happy with this. Don't you want to be employed again? Whatever, more opportunities for me later.
 
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On one hand I enjoy a good taunting from time to time, on the other hand actors need to shut the eF up most of the time. Some people will believe this no doubt and I want the game to perform well. But really man, I can't imagine Retro or Nintendo at large will be happy with this. Don't you want to be employed again? Whatever, more opportunities for me later.
Believe or Not, Mackenzie is giving more exposure to MP4 on social networks and especially on TikTok than a lot of super expensive marketing campaigns with influencers and some influencers are talking (for free) about the game… Now everybody is waiting for the reviews to see what happens with that character and if the game ends up having a high score it will lead to more sales. Also a lot of people are ok with the character, especially the people doesn't have played Metroid games.
 
He will be in one section and you will meet other stranded federation troopers in other areas. They will also come together. These troopers play a huge role in the story similar and probably more than Metroid Other M. Samus is about to learn the power of friendship.

For better or worse.

But who knows, maybe it's all fine and a whole lot of noise about nothing.
 
Believe or Not, Mackenzie is giving more exposure to MP4 on social networks and especially on TikTok than a lot of super expensive marketing campaigns with influencers and some influencers are talking (for free) about the game… Now everybody is waiting for the reviews to see what happens with that character and if the game ends up having a high score it will lead to more sales. Also a lot of people are ok with the character, especially the people doesn't have played Metroid games.

Alright, that's an angle I had not considered. Could be a good thing in the long run.
 
Believe or Not, Mackenzie is giving more exposure to MP4 on social networks and especially on TikTok than a lot of super expensive marketing campaigns with influencers and some influencers are talking (for free) about the game… Now everybody is waiting for the reviews to see what happens with that character and if the game ends up having a high score it will lead to more sales. Also a lot of people are ok with the character, especially the people doesn't have played Metroid games.
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Believe or Not, Mackenzie is giving more exposure to MP4 on social networks and especially on TikTok than a lot of super expensive marketing campaigns with influencers and some influencers are talking (for free) about the game… Now everybody is waiting for the reviews to see what happens with that character and if the game ends up having a high score it will lead to more sales. Also a lot of people are ok with the character, especially the people doesn't have played Metroid games.
Sure, all for promotonial reasons

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