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[Mister Wolf]

I wonder how hard it will be to get these extra cutscenes without the Sylux amiibo.

 

[Robb]

I wonder how hard it will be to get these extra cutscenes without the Sylux amiibo.

Huh.. That's an "interesting" use for it. I guess that might be the secret ending/100% stuff that's always included in these games?

 

[Mister Wolf]

Huh.. That's an "interesting" use for it. I guess that might be the secret ending/100% stuff that's always included in these games?

As long as they don't make me play through the game more than once. I hate when games do that.

 

[Codes 208]

No, Pokemon Pokopia is the only announced first party title that uses that, so far.

Pokemon is not first party

 

[Robb]

Pokemon is not first party

Yes it is, it's published by Nintendo.

 

[Codes 208]

Yes it is, it's published by Nintendo.

Published, but only partially owned. Pokémon is jointly owned by Nintendo, gamefreak, and the Pokémon company (which nintendo doesnt own either of those companies). It's never made in-house at nintendo and gamefreak does all the development and marketing.

Its a second party exclusive. Just like halo and gears were second party to xbox before MS bought the IP's when bungie and epic dipped.

 

[Robb]

Published, but only partially owned. Pokémon is jointly owned by Nintendo, gamefreak, and the Pokémon company (which nintendo doesnt own either of those companies). It's never made in-house at nintendo and gamefreak does all the development and marketing.

Its a second party exclusive. Just like halo and gears were second party to xbox before MS bought the IP's when bungie and epic dipped.

Doesn't matter. It's considered first party, and so is something like, say, The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom or Metroid: Dread, despite also not being developed in-house.

 

[Codes 208]

Doesn't matter. It's considered first party, and so is something like, say, The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom or Metroid: Dread, despite also not being developed in-house.

at this point we're just arguing semantics. Though from all the google searches Ive checked, its generally agreed pokemon is a second party exclusive due it being made by a third party developer who has a publishing agreement with nintendo (same could arguably be said about some others like kirby, but i believe nintendo actually does own those IP's. With pokemon they only own it partially)

Games like hyrule warriors are still first party because nintendo still owns the full IP rights.

That said, pokopia isnt a mainline game. Its a second party game being developed by a third party developer (same devs as dragon quest builders iirc) so its not going to get the same treatment as, say, legends za. So i dont think the freebie 64gb cards were an option for them.

 

[ADiTAR]

Nintendo is VERY hands-on when they hand their IP's off to other developers, and we know from Other M that they're fully onboard with NPC's, dialogue, etc. I don't have insight into this specific situation, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is Nintendo's doing.

Nintendo is hands on sure, but mostly from a gameplay perspective. Never have I seen Nintendo caring about story let alone NPCs.

 

[Robb]

Games like hyrule warriors are still first party because nintendo still owns the full IP rights

That also doesn't matter. Bayonetta 3 is developed by Platinum Games and the IP rights belong to SEGA, but it's still considered first party.

 

[Mozza]

Sound design and animation looks god awful, the basic blast sound is too low and unimpressive, animation is from 4 generations back, there is shit out there called motion matching, the world lacks a lot of detail. so being 4k and hdr just don't cut it. i know the game is a switch game, but let's keep it real it doesn't look amazing nor damn impressive.

As I said the game looks fine considering the console it was made for. Not sure what you are tyring to say here. Most previews praise the games visuals and the negatives are based on the NPC's or one to be more precise. It only seems to be a few on here stating the games visuals are bad.

 

[Mozza]

Published, but only partially owned. Pokémon is jointly owned by Nintendo, gamefreak, and the Pokémon company (which nintendo doesnt own either of those companies). It's never made in-house at nintendo and gamefreak does all the development and marketing.

Its a second party exclusive. Just like halo and gears were second party to xbox before MS bought the IP's when bungie and epic dipped.

Around 50% owned by Nintendo and they also have an undisclosed stake in creatures inc. These games are never coming to another platform and are for all intents and purposes Nintendo through and through.

 

[Codes 208]

Around 50% owned by Nintendo and they also have an undisclosed stake in creatures inc. These games are never coming to another platform and are for all intents and purposes Nintendo through and through.

i agree youre not going to see their games on other platforms (except mobile, which is something gamefreak really pushed for)

Pokemon in general is a bit of an anomaly, the biggest reveals are generally through gamefreak's pokemon events rather than Nintendo's directs. Publishing aside, gamefreak handles pretty much 100% of the development of anything Pokemon related. But i digress.

OT: the more i see of this game, the more it gives me a 343 era halo vibe. (But not in a bad way. Kinda makes me want to replay halo 4)

 

[Mozza]

i agree youre not going to see their games on other platforms (except mobile, which is something gamefreak really pushed for)

Pokemon in general is a bit of an anomaly, the biggest reveals are generally through gamefreak's pokemon events rather than Nintendo's directs. Publishing aside, gamefreak handles pretty much 100% of the development of anything Pokemon related. But i digress.

OT: the more i see of this game, the more it gives me a 343 era halo vibe. (But not in a bad way. Kinda makes me want to replay halo 4)

Totally agree with this. But if you where to ask most people they would assume Pokemon was just another Nintendo franchise. As it was so hard wired into the GameBoy era, and been a permanent Nintendo fixture ever since. Their Switch output is also pretty impressive from a sheer amount of games perspective. And the only games that are getting anywhere near Nintendo's own sales of it's biggest first party titles. Which leads me to believe it's Nintendo and the franchise itself that does help sales.

 

[Robb]

the more i see of this game, the more it gives me a 343 era halo vibe. (But not in a bad way. Kinda makes me want to replay halo 4)

Definitely gives off strong Halo 4/5 vibes for me as well. Hopefully it's more 4 than 5 though.

 

[LordOcidax]

i agree youre not going to see their games on other platforms (except mobile, which is something gamefreak really pushed for)

Pokemon in general is a bit of an anomaly, the biggest reveals are generally through gamefreak's pokemon events rather than Nintendo's directs. Publishing aside, gamefreak handles pretty much 100% of the development of anything Pokemon related. But i digress.

OT: the more i see of this game, the more it gives me a 343 era halo vibe. (But not in a bad way. Kinda makes me want to replay halo 4)

A bunch of Retrostudio ex employees worked later on 343 including some lead art designers like Kynan Pearson, a level designer (Metroid Prime 2, 3 and Halo 4 level designer), so basically the 343 Halos looks like Metroid Prime games not the opposite.