Oooh at the artwork of the Gravity Suit. Probably one of my favorite suits in the series.
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Metroid: Samus Returns |OT| What's past is prologue.
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FloweryMarston
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playing zero mission since i can't get this game right now WAKE ME UP
HeresSomeWeapons
Member
I know. And the implication is that if you aren't a professional reviewer, your gaming pallette isn't refined enough to know the difference in quality between an 8.0 and an 8.5, as if there was a universal standard for such a thing. It's obnoxious.
AmayaPapaya
Banned
I don't really like the purple, tbh. It feels out of place to me.
Hasn't that been the color for the gravity suit, or least a lighter shade of it (like more violet really)? Doesn't feel that far off personally.
HeresSomeWeapons
Member
Yes. I think it was a little bit lighter in Super, but it's been that deep purple color in every game since.
eXistor
Member
Playing some more really cements this as a decent but not great Metroid. There's just too many points where it just doesn't compare favorably to other games in the series.
Outside of my initial gripes, which still stand, some new ones have come to light. I see others have already said the same thing though. The game's art just isn't very good and the areas in the game all kind of blur together. Other Metroids have always had very distinct areas, which was further helped by having distinct music. Samus Returns just has one look so far (apparently Area 5 is different, but I haven't gotten there yet) and their brilliant idea to diversivy them is to have them be in a different color? You can do better than this. You need to do better in fact.
Enemy encounters continue to bore and annoy; it's just not very fun to keep having to counter just about every enemy, forcing you to stop and wait for it to attack.
I'm still having fun with it, but this really isn't the grand return of Metroid some were hoping it would be. The series legacy remains in tact at least and the game certainly isn't bad, it just needs to be better.
Outside of my initial gripes, which still stand, some new ones have come to light. I see others have already said the same thing though. The game's art just isn't very good and the areas in the game all kind of blur together. Other Metroids have always had very distinct areas, which was further helped by having distinct music. Samus Returns just has one look so far (apparently Area 5 is different, but I haven't gotten there yet) and their brilliant idea to diversivy them is to have them be in a different color? You can do better than this. You need to do better in fact.
Enemy encounters continue to bore and annoy; it's just not very fun to keep having to counter just about every enemy, forcing you to stop and wait for it to attack.
I'm still having fun with it, but this really isn't the grand return of Metroid some were hoping it would be. The series legacy remains in tact at least and the game certainly isn't bad, it just needs to be better.
Benzychenz
Member
Just bought this.
Haven't played Zero Mission though so got that on Wii U and will play it first.
Haven't played Zero Mission though so got that on Wii U and will play it first.
TheMoon
Member
On Wednesday for Japan, never for Europe, never for NA unless it magically does absolute crazy numbers and they can brag about "best franchise sales" or something similar after the NPDs come out next month. You only hear about sales if they break records (time, amount).
SoulUnison
Banned
It's weird, right?
Especially considering how much Nintendo and Sakamoto always seemed to keep Prime its own separate "thing."
It feels both slightly lazy and weirdly meta-dissonant.
D.Lo
Member
If it breaks a million worldwide eventually we'll hear about it. But that could take years.
AmayaPapaya
Banned
Yeah it has always been that way. I just meant the suit in general.
Ein Bear
Member
Had a busy weekend, but finally managed to dig into this properly last night.
I'm struggling a bit with my muscle memory from the previous games. The rhythm of combat is quite different this time round with the lock-in-place free aiming.
It's a fantastic game though. Its funny how pleasant it felt to get properly lost and not know where to go for a while. The visuals are beautiful as well, I was surprised at how well it emulates the Prime art-style. It's a shame I'm only playing on a standard sized New 3DS really... I'm tempted to buy an XL, but it seems a waste when this is probably the last game I'll play on the system.
I'm struggling a bit with my muscle memory from the previous games. The rhythm of combat is quite different this time round with the lock-in-place free aiming.
It's a fantastic game though. Its funny how pleasant it felt to get properly lost and not know where to go for a while. The visuals are beautiful as well, I was surprised at how well it emulates the Prime art-style. It's a shame I'm only playing on a standard sized New 3DS really... I'm tempted to buy an XL, but it seems a waste when this is probably the last game I'll play on the system.
I think it struggles to hit a million in sales, simply because of how the series has been treated recently. There was a "Metroid game" released last year, after all. And it tanked horrifically. People are going to be very hesitant to pick up any Metroid title from here on out because of the last 2 entries.
Maybe it gets some momentum behind it around November because of Pokemon, but I'm not hopeful.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Finally checking in. I've reached the third area
Playing a new metroid game is amazing! Not quite sure how I feel about the constant action though. You can't swing your dick without constant enemies. Makes backtracking a pain.
I just got the lighting Armour, what's the point of this exactly?
The counter is a great addition, although I think it's a little overused so far.
Also the ice beam is weak as fuck. Barely freezes enemies and you basically can't kill with it.
The controls are a little fucky too. Free admin to shoot missiles at blocks to then freeze an enemy to jump the ledge just feels awkward rather than hard.
Overall I'm loving it though.
Playing a new metroid game is amazing! Not quite sure how I feel about the constant action though. You can't swing your dick without constant enemies. Makes backtracking a pain.
I just got the lighting Armour, what's the point of this exactly?
The counter is a great addition, although I think it's a little overused so far.
Also the ice beam is weak as fuck. Barely freezes enemies and you basically can't kill with it.
The controls are a little fucky too. Free admin to shoot missiles at blocks to then freeze an enemy to jump the ledge just feels awkward rather than hard.
Overall I'm loving it though.
This is a long game. Twelve hours in (according to the activity log, which is accurate. The game timer is not) and just starting what I presume is the final area. It's been fun but I'm ready to wrap things up because there hasn't been a great deal of variety in either the areas or the enemies.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Honestly would recommend playing with headphones.
Not sure how to feel about reused music - it didn't irk me but does seem a bit unambitious.
Just got the wave beam - got me amiibo in me backpack to bust out once I complete it. Loving it.
Not sure how to feel about reused music - it didn't irk me but does seem a bit unambitious.
Just got the wave beam - got me amiibo in me backpack to bust out once I complete it. Loving it.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
FUCK the amiboos requirement. Surely there's a homebrew solution to needing ugly plastic shit by now?
GeekyDad
Member
Well, I think inadvertently did things ass backwards. I got the Varia suit and went as far as I could go, so I started backtracking in Area 2. Ends up, I hadn't yet gotten the spring ball. Was pretty cool, though, as I think I just fought one of the game's first actual bosses. He was easy but fun.
And now, FUCK THOSE FANS!
That's next on my list, having never played it.
I wouldn't even mind it if I wasn't playing on an O3DS. But you can't use Amiibos on the old system, as far as I know.
And now, FUCK THOSE FANS!
That's next on my list, having never played it.
I wouldn't even mind it if I wasn't playing on an O3DS. But you can't use Amiibos on the old system, as far as I know.
TheMoon
Member
There's no "requirement" and you're talking about piracy which paints a target on your back so watch it.
Of course you can. But you need the NFC reader adapter.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
You can get a little portal that facilitates it for the older 3ds models. They introduced around Happy Home Designer I believe
Really really enjoying area 5!
TheMoon
Member
Launched in a bundle even, yea.
GeekyDad
Member
Ah cool, didn't even know that. Thanks.
I tried pre-ordering the two-pack back when simply because I loved the way both Amiibos looked. Guess I'll still try to pick that up if I can find one.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
yeah there's a little plinth thing that came with Happy home designer.
I'll get the samus amiibo this weekend hopefully. Think they look well cool.
I'll get the samus amiibo this weekend hopefully. Think they look well cool.
goldenpp72
Member
Link between worlds struggled to pass 2 million when 3ds was booming so yeah I have little faith.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
I think Nintendo are conscious of how 'big' Metroid is - I don't think they'll be caught thinking that this would sell a massive amount.
ResidentWeevil13
Member
This game is like crack. I can't stop. I won't stop. CHU CHU
Funny thing is that's one of the major issues with the original, though obviously can't be helped there with a monochrome colour scheme. It would've benefited from Pokémon Yellow esque Game Boy Color or Super Game Boy use, changing to a different set of four shades for each area.
Makes me wonder how that cancelled Game Boy Color version would've turned out.
That was such a shame, best Zelda in years was one of the least successful
I spent a good thirty minutes scouring the Area 1 map last night searching for the section's final upgrade. The map looks wholly complete - no open circles, no gaps along the perimeter of rooms indicating an undisclosed secret area, no icons showing a power up I've seen but haven't yet collected.
The pixel hunt is real.
The pixel hunt is real.
If you can't find an open circle, it means you've passed by it on the Map.
It will appear as a smaller version of that item.
It will appear as a smaller version of that item.
Nope. I give up. How on earth do you beat the
. I can get to the 3rd phase, although that takes me like 10 minutes each time. But I can't see an opening for attack. Is it something to do with when he starts trying to suck you up? Also those lasers are, like, impossible to dodge.
Great game overall but a few thing are really winding me up.
drill boss
Great game overall but a few thing are really winding me up.
Not unexpected, unfortunately.
Every time someone confuses UK for EU a little kitten dies.
Corrected the issue, resurrected the kitten
I'm on Area 3 myself, game is legitimately awesome.
I think I let the AM2R backlash dull my hype - the 3D is far better than I expected, videos and screenshots don't do it justice.
Not gonna lie though, I'd buy a Switch-build in a heartbeat.
I've not beaten the game so I'm not as far as you, but I kinda like the maze-like nature of the world so far. I've happened across a couple of Metroids that I think are possibly outside of the natural order most people will play through, because I've kinda been running around and exploring as soon as I get a new ability. It's the first Metroid game where it feels like I'm actually hunting.
I like the Prime-esque aesthetic. It still feels 'cartoonier' than the Prime games, but some of the nice background touches give each area personality, where they probably had next to none in the original Gameboy title, and all the Chozo and Sr388 background detail just makes it feel part of a cohesive universe. I like it!
I think I let the AM2R backlash dull my hype - the 3D is far better than I expected, videos and screenshots don't do it justice.
Not gonna lie though, I'd buy a Switch-build in a heartbeat.
I've not beaten the game so I'm not as far as you, but I kinda like the maze-like nature of the world so far. I've happened across a couple of Metroids that I think are possibly outside of the natural order most people will play through, because I've kinda been running around and exploring as soon as I get a new ability. It's the first Metroid game where it feels like I'm actually hunting.
I like the Prime-esque aesthetic. It still feels 'cartoonier' than the Prime games, but some of the nice background touches give each area personality, where they probably had next to none in the original Gameboy title, and all the Chozo and Sr388 background detail just makes it feel part of a cohesive universe. I like it!
That's not good, is it?
GeekyDad
Member
Yeah, I'll agree, but I don't feel like what's going on in the background really has much impact visually until the latter parts of Area 2. Then I started really noticing some of the things going on back there that really add to the experience for me personally. I know even reviewers seem to have whipped right through this game, but for me it's a slowly building experience in just about every way, which I think is great.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Completely ignoring the map scan thing is making this game infinitely more enjoyable for me
No, it's not.
Anecdotal reasoning here, but I don't think shipments will have been all that high to begin with. My local GAME had sold out of their standard copies, they didn't have any of the limited edition, and they had to give me a display case (ie. opened) with the game and literature put back in. The Nintendo section in my store is miniscule compared to all the XBO/PS4 stuff. They have equal amount of space devoted to Steam and VR, and a section for lame collectables. It feels like Nintendo have a long road to recovery in the UK after Wii U.
Yeah it wasn't until the end of Area 2 and the start of the section I'm at now where I began to notice moving technology, alien creatures in the background, and incidental animations like falling pillars etc. The attention to detail is really nice in some places. There have been a couple of Metroid battles where you see them first in the background before they emerge on the foreground too. Quite nice!
Beyond mandatory sections, it's a good way to reduce chip damage and knockback while going through an area, and it acts as extra health in boss fights.
Shooting enemies with a missile when they're frozen is an insta-kill, so with quick timing the ice beam can actually do some good damage.
Also, it's the only beam that works on Metroids.
Shoot with ice beam and then melee for instant kills
Face in palm - I've had quite a few deaths that I might have avoided if I'd considered using it like that!
But yeah, lightning armour is useful. There are sections you can't get through unless you have it, walls
you can't climb with spider ball if you don't have it etc.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Figured there may be mandatory sectiona for the Armour, but wasn't sure if it was just a passing ability either. Good to know.
My muscle memory from Super made me think the ice beam did regular damage too. I guess it makes sense to be more of a utility beam.
Either way, delighted to be playing a new metroid game