Personally I thought it killed the momentum and suspense, so I instead did it after finishing the game.
Fusion is even harder.
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Metroid: Samus Returns |OT| What's past is prologue.
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Personally I thought it killed the momentum and suspense, so I instead did it after finishing the game.
Fusion is even harder.
User123456
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Got this game at launch and I've been playing it during pretty much all of my commutes since. I'm about 10-11 hours in and I can definitively say that this is my favorite 2D Metroid thus far. It gets better and better and better and never lets up, god damn.
robotzombie
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How do you break the ice crystal stuff?
goldenpp72
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You have to beat a certain boss, don't want to spoil ya but it's basically end game stuff. Frustrating for sure.
Tell me about it. I had to pause my Fusion replay because while I initially wanted to get an under 4 hour bonus, I'm too tempted to just wander around appreciating the details I missed the first time, haha.
StarCreator
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You should wait until
you can break the crystal-like blocks
freeofgreed
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The third floor of
is getting on my nerves. I don't have enough time to get through the spider ball sequence.
that chase sequence
StarCreator
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I shifted to Steamworld Dig 2 for a week and now I have a dumb question: How do I destroy these blocks!?
You need power bombs for that.
I shifted to Steamworld Dig 2 for a week and now I have a dumb question: How do I destroy these blocks!?
Super Bombs
TheMoon
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I shifted to Steamworld Dig 2 for a week and now I have a dumb question: How do I destroy these blocks!?
standard metroid color coding
red = m
green = sm
yellow = pb
The use of Lower Norfair before getting the Varia Suit almost made me reconsider their decision to bring it back - the sense of dread when entering a heated room and turning around to exit was enhanced by having a familiar music cue to push through the association. But the actual arrangement playing once you could freely explore those areas ended up not working quite as well, even if it is still a great piece and a decent arrangement.
It feels kind of nitpicky to criticise the music when it is, broadly speaking, good - the soundtrack generally fits its purpose and there haven't been any tracks which actively harmed the atmosphere the game was attempting to build. But the music doesn't really elevate it much either; or add personality and identity to the game's environments - I don't think the Super Metroid remixes would stick out as much if they were accompanied by more distinctive original music.
It feels kind of nitpicky to criticise the music when it is, broadly speaking, good - the soundtrack generally fits its purpose and there haven't been any tracks which actively harmed the atmosphere the game was attempting to build. But the music doesn't really elevate it much either; or add personality and identity to the game's environments - I don't think the Super Metroid remixes would stick out as much if they were accompanied by more distinctive original music.
Lord of Ostia
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I could use some help, just found all the Metroids in Area 4...how do I get to the Area 5 elevator? I'm totally lost.
TheMoon
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Like before, go to where the purple acid was and now is not anymore.
Lord of Ostia
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Yeah I realize that, but underneath the acid is just a row of blocks that require a power up I don't have yet to break.
Edit: nvm, there was a section of wall I hadn't bombed yet.
balladofwindfishes
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I shifted to Steamworld Dig 2 for a week and now I have a dumb question: How do I destroy these blocks!?
At one point, Samus gets a new gun that can shoot candy. It was kind of weird, but it works I guess.
Finished this last night with 100%. Such a great game and huge Kudos to Mercury Steam for nailing not only a competent entry, but an entry that easily sits in the top tier of 2d Metroid games imo.
My largest complaint regarding the experience is probably the large scale boss encounters and pacing. While the smaller metroid encounters gradually ramp up into tougher versions it wasn't until the
boss that I really thought the encounter design was starting to touch on the levels of some of Prime's bosses in terms of ability use and incorporation throughout the fight. It's always nice when Samus' tool set is given thoughtful and creative consideration. After that the remaining large scale bosses came quite quick and were a bit of a let down overall. There isn't much to say other than they just weren't as creative or nearly as fun.
I agree each area not having it's own iconic theme, distinct color palette or even a name hurts the game's ability to give weight and character to the separated zones. However, there is cohesion within each area as one section transitions to another sharing small components to signify a gradual exchange in environment. I also think there is such a large variation of backgrounds and scene setting at play within each area, that you often feel that the area itself loses a bit of a larger identity. Maybe, more signature audio tracks for each area consistently present, despite whatever atmosphere the background elements and design were setting, would go a long way towards creating a sense of identity for each area.
On a parting note, I'll only say that the hardware form factor really hampered my overall enjoyment and I'll certainly levy those complaints separate from the software itself. Coming in and out of morph ball with the thumb slider was often clumsy and the ability to use the touch screen wasn't really a great alternative as you have to relinquish control to do so. I think one of the reasons it took me so long to complete the game, was that I couldn't play for extended periods without thumb/hand cramps or even fingers going numb. This was all with a Circle Pad Pro in place to help give some extra heft to the unit.
Anyhow, I absolutely loved the game overall and I'm glad we have a new 2d metroid to enjoy (Prime is still my favorite followed by Super)!
My largest complaint regarding the experience is probably the large scale boss encounters and pacing. While the smaller metroid encounters gradually ramp up into tougher versions it wasn't until the
Diggernaut
I agree each area not having it's own iconic theme, distinct color palette or even a name hurts the game's ability to give weight and character to the separated zones. However, there is cohesion within each area as one section transitions to another sharing small components to signify a gradual exchange in environment. I also think there is such a large variation of backgrounds and scene setting at play within each area, that you often feel that the area itself loses a bit of a larger identity. Maybe, more signature audio tracks for each area consistently present, despite whatever atmosphere the background elements and design were setting, would go a long way towards creating a sense of identity for each area.
On a parting note, I'll only say that the hardware form factor really hampered my overall enjoyment and I'll certainly levy those complaints separate from the software itself. Coming in and out of morph ball with the thumb slider was often clumsy and the ability to use the touch screen wasn't really a great alternative as you have to relinquish control to do so. I think one of the reasons it took me so long to complete the game, was that I couldn't play for extended periods without thumb/hand cramps or even fingers going numb. This was all with a Circle Pad Pro in place to help give some extra heft to the unit.
Anyhow, I absolutely loved the game overall and I'm glad we have a new 2d metroid to enjoy (Prime is still my favorite followed by Super)!
Please spoiler tag!
I am sorry but in past Metroid games it was clear what item you need to break blocks, in Samus return it's just confusing as they are not clearly highlighted or just looks different for no reasons.
So I wasn't the only one who thought that.
I mean... it kinda looks like a power bomb still? The colors are the primary thing and they're using the same as the series always has since Super Metroid. The first time I ran across one of those blocks I knew exactly what it was for.
The chase sequence really wasn't that hard. I only used spider ball once and that was to cross a gap that falls away underneath. There were multiple paths I assumed you didn't have to take if you were smart about it.
Bubble Walrus
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I am completely out of ideas on how to hurt this final Metroid. :-(
We talkin' Queen or Omega?
balladofwindfishes
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All Metroid are weak to
ice weapons when shot down their throats. At least the ones that have throats.
Bubble Walrus
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It's a regular looking Metroid that jumps on my head. I can use bombs to get him off me but nothing hurts it :-(
The Hermit
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Oh, the
normal Metroid? It's similar to Metroids in past games: you need to freeze it, then pelt it with 5 missiles.
Bubble Walrus
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The Hermit
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For a second I thought you were talking about the baby Metroid lol
Freeze + missile then
Bubble Walrus
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Thanks guys!
I really thought that first normal Metroid was the final boss! Think I'm about to face that now...
You're close. Enjoy the ending!
Gurgelhals
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Spider Ball is your friend.
Green Mamba
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Spider Ball on the ceiling before she ignites the back wall. That's probably her trickiest attack pattern.
Hm, I need to do this again because I'm not sure how that's possible. Because
usually what happens is that 1. Green balls go out 2. I spider ball up the back wall. 3a. She either shoots fire to the floor and back wall, in which case I rotate to the top, and then drop to floor when it stops burning or 3b. Drop back to the floor when it starts burning the ceiling and the back wall. After 3b is where I am stuck - the ceiling is clear, but the back wall is still burning so the only way back to the ceiling is to somehow perfect space jump back to the ceiling?
Ok, Im not really sure what I did differently this time but I just beat it. I didnt get into the same dilemma that I had been, so either I did better at killing it or I was just thinking about where I was differently. I wish I knew, lol.
I think he is refering to the attack where she traps you between fire in the floor amd in the wall. She doesnt push you to the wall bu the order in wich she puts the fire traps you. hiding under her mouth or power bomb jumping to the ceiling kind of worked but i got hit a few times as well
Hellwarden
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Out of curiosity, I'm not the only one who struggled against the
right? Died like 4/5 times to it.
The
also gave me some trouble.
Queen Metroid
The
Diggernaut
Regarding a certain puzzle element that stumped pretty much everyone at some point:
the parallel red spikes with no grapple point
I was thinking what their thought process was on this. Power bomb jumping has never been a thing in any previous Metroid game. We have also never had a 2D game with both the Power Bomb and Spider Ball in the same game. So how exactly did MS expect us to figure that one out? Since you have a limited number of power bombs, you aren't going to sit there and play with them.
Honestly I think they should have handled it where when you get the power bombs, the Chozo statue crumbles or something, and you fall and the only way out is to roll into a corridor, with power bomb blocks above you. People might figure it out this way.
Honestly I think they should have handled it where when you get the power bombs, the Chozo statue crumbles or something, and you fall and the only way out is to roll into a corridor, with power bomb blocks above you. People might figure it out this way.
Green Mamba
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Klappdrachen
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Fusion mode really keeps you on your toes. Do you get anything for beating it?
Bubble Walrus
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I can handle the area 8 boss OK, until
There's fire on the back wall, floor AND green bubbles. Give me a break!
It's the same as hard mode, so apart from a slightly different completion rate screen of you are fast enough, nothing new.
(SUPER HUGE SPOILERS)
Interesting which details changed. His lower jaw for example isn't mechanical in the final model, but has the same spike.
either spider power bomb jump to the ceiling (yes that is actually a thing) or hide bellow her neck.
The thing that makes that even cooler
(MORE SUPER HUGE SPOILERS)
It's a really nice acknowledgement that the Prime games are cannon again. Even though the final model is less mechanical than that art, that's fine,
I honestly like the model.
Also...I wonder if this sort of is a way of saying they plan to ignore Other M for the most part. This would be yet another time facing Ridley before the events of Other M, and her reaction here was night and day different from the Other M one. They did say Sakamoto was in charge of the story stuff again. It seems like he really listened since Other M.
The Ridley surprise was nice in general. I really didn't expect it, and they did it in a way that made sense with all the games chronologically so far.
I honestly like the model.
Also...I wonder if this sort of is a way of saying they plan to ignore Other M for the most part. This would be yet another time facing Ridley before the events of Other M, and her reaction here was night and day different from the Other M one. They did say Sakamoto was in charge of the story stuff again. It seems like he really listened since Other M.
The Ridley surprise was nice in general. I really didn't expect it, and they did it in a way that made sense with all the games chronologically so far.