Microsft Flight Simulator 2020 Xbox Series S/X Trailer

Should've launched with the console, but I think that XSX owners are going to be pretty damn impressed with this.

Problem

HUGE PROBLEM

I found Series S available near me. Fuck i'm tethering on the edge here.


So this game, FS2020, is like a 130 gig install, and it's only going to go up as they add more detailed data. I would not get a XSS for this game just on that alone.
 
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Can you use m/kb or flight sticks?Girls dad wants to play this, but his PC is old, might be cheaper to buy console.
 
Can you use m/kb or flight sticks?Girls dad wants to play this, but his PC is old, might be cheaper to buy console.
Good question actually. The Controller support is decent on PC but not amazing. I would assume KB would be a lock.
 
The lot of you are obviously blind and would rather berate me for how I choose to spell words like quiet, and I suppose this - as an Xbox fan is why I don't care to engage other xbox fans. Point out obvious ( should be inexcusable) flaws and suddenly all fans who had mommy get them an Xbox day one are jumping on you.

But yes, there is obvious pop in during the trailer at the 26 second mark in the middle of the screen, and underneath the airplane across the landscape as it veers towards the right of the screen and ugly horrific low res tree leaves in the foreground during one scene in particular.


But Microsoft should sooooo be excused for this guise I mean, specially when there really aren't pop up issues annnnnywhere else in any of the footage shown.

Just ignore it, just ignore it.

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The new Flight Simulator is a culmination of efforts by several studios to produce a believable reproduction of the entire planet. Given the scale of the task and the sheer amount of work required to have it all work together, I'd say they did a pretty decent job. Compared to any other piece of software nothing comes remotely close in terms of scale without being mostly procedural and very few games even come close in terms of the various physics engines the game has to run while it manages to look as good as it does.

Glossing over the achievement of the simulation and how good it looks while running one of the most robust weather simulations, lighting engines, some of the longest (300 miles around the player) draw distances and a physics engine that's more complicated than we've ever seen in a simulator that can run on a piece of hardware in your home. Nitpicking pop-up and close-up tree shots in something with this scale is absolutely retarded. They know the simulation isn't perfect, they say so themselves because they obviously are aiming for perfect, but it's not like they can play test the entire planet and make sure they took care of every imperfection. The sim is already difficult to run on the most high-end PCs. To have fully modeled 3D trees in place of the current trees in this sim would mean single digit framerates on even the most powerful hardware available for home use, and even then there are people delusional enough they would argue the new trees are not 1:1 with the trees in their back yard.



The game has no photo mode. To "pause" the game you make your own aircraft immobile while the simulation continues around it. Absolutely every screenshot is of the game running as it is.

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Oh no the trees are low resolution!
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The lot of you are obviously blind and would rather berate me for how I choose to spell words like quiet, and I suppose this - as an Xbox fan is why I don't care to engage other xbox fans. Point out obvious ( should be inexcusable) flaws and suddenly all fans who had mommy get them an Xbox day one are jumping on you.

But yes, there is obvious pop in during the trailer at the 26 second mark in the middle of the screen, and underneath the airplane across the landscape as it veers towards the right of the screen and ugly horrific low res tree leaves in the foreground during one scene in particular.


But Microsoft should sooooo be excused for this guise I mean, specially when there really aren't pop up issues annnnnywhere else in any of the footage shown.

Just ignore it, just ignore it.

No.

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I noticed some pop-in during the trailer

We are not only 6 months from release, that is absolutely fuck all in the grand scheme of things. They will iron out the quinks before launch.
 
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Really hoping this gets a great layer of optimizations on console. My biggest issue with the pC version is the inconsistency of performance. Supposedly the DX12 version will help.
 
The lot of you are obviously blind and would rather berate me for how I choose to spell words like quiet, and I suppose this - as an Xbox fan is why I don't care to engage other xbox fans. Point out obvious ( should be inexcusable) flaws and suddenly all fans who had mommy get them an Xbox day one are jumping on you.

But yes, there is obvious pop in during the trailer at the 26 second mark in the middle of the screen, and underneath the airplane across the landscape as it veers towards the right of the screen and ugly horrific low res tree leaves in the foreground during one scene in particular.


But Microsoft should sooooo be excused for this guise I mean, specially when there really aren't pop up issues annnnnywhere else in any of the footage shown.

Just ignore it, just ignore it.

No.

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Yeah, who gives a shit.
 
Really hoping this gets a great layer of optimizations on console. My biggest issue with the pC version is the inconsistency of performance. Supposedly the DX12 version will help.
Have you played it on PC recently? plays much better now and the mods with more planes/skins etc make it even better.
 
Obviously this trailer is saying "Yes we are at the visual level of the PC in some aspects but there is still minimal pop up - and we didn't try to hide it in this trailer as we are not going to fix it post launch"
 
Should've launched with the console, but I think that XSX owners are going to be pretty damn impressed with this.




So this game, FS2020, is like a 130 gig install, and it's only going to go up as they add more detailed data. I would not get a XSS for this game just on that alone.
They are making games 'shrinkable' in future and this could be one of them games.
 
Looks amazing graphically. Likely not my cup of tea, but since I have gamepass I'll definitely give it a go on XSX to check out the graphics if nothing else.
 
Should've launched with the console, but I think that XSX owners are going to be pretty damn impressed with this.




So this game, FS2020, is like a 130 gig install, and it's only going to go up as they add more detailed data. I would not get a XSS for this game just on that alone.
Wait for the X. The argument I use is if you ever need more storage the expansion puts you at the cost of the X anyway so why give up the better visuals for the same price
Yep. Decided against getting it at the last minute.
I spent all of yesterday watching reviews, gameplay and googling GamePass on Series S and stopped just as I was about to complete the purchase. The 512GB hard drive didn't bother me because I plan to pick up PS5 later as my main console.
I guess its the resolution and general performance of games that put me off in the end. They didn't look that much better than games running on my PS4 Pro. This was the deal breaker as I never before watched any gameplay of Series S games VS Series X to see the difference in performance.

This was going to be my gift from my partner. So she's buying me a smart watch instead. I'm very open minded when it comes to the next gen consoles and even though sometimes I may talk shit about Xbox, I would buy one in a heartbeat.
 
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I have to admit this one really piques my interest and is something I would like to try. It looks absolutely gorgeous to me.
 
I wouldn't make a point about it if they were apparent all throughout the trailer - but it seems - they could have simply polished up that area and ensured no pop up was viable during the trailer - instead we have a trailer nearly - pristine but.....

they have communicated the game will in fact have pop up by purposely leaving in the segment demonstrating broken LOD adjustments.
 
quiet a bit of pop in there in the first few moments.

Obviously this trailer is saying "Yes we are at the visual level of the PC in some aspects but there is still minimal pop up - and we didn't try to hide it in this trailer as we are not going to fix it post launch"

Meanwhile - "Here is our MSF Version for Xbox, with obvious flaws shown in the trailer - enjoy"

I wouldn't make a point about it if they were apparent all throughout the trailer - but it seems - they could have simply polished up that area and ensured no pop up was viable during the trailer - instead we have a trailer nearly - pristine but.....

they have communicated the game will in fact have pop up by purposely leaving in the segment demonstrating broken LOD adjustments.

Just simply "polish up that part of the entire planet" when they're busy updating entire continents? I think they have their priorities in-line.

You want the devs to to a bullshot trailer by removing imperfections that exist in the actual product just to make the trailer?

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I wish every dev actually showed their games the way they'll look at launch. How many games in the last decade have released with everything from missing shadows, to shittier textures, to heavily reduced geometry? You keep shitting on it for some reason and claim it's never going to be fixed, but the software is a flight sim, it's not a normal video game. Sims are constantly updated over time. MFS has already had two massive map updates, one of which greatly improved an entire country with new elevation data and a lot more photogrammetric data. MFS will absolutely continue to evolve as time goes on.



If they can get a smooth 30fps on this that will be absolutely fantastic.

That would be a feat, in major centers like New York on even a beefy PC this simulator gets pretty heavy and starts to chug.

The game's performance depends on your connection too, an unstable connection can cause some severe performance drops. I have a 600+Mbps connection but at launch there was a lot of work being done in my area so our internet was cutting in and out and speeds hopping around. The sim became unplayable during that time, otherwise with a solid connection my frame-rates and how the game looked was consistently impressive.
 
Just simply "polish up that part of the entire planet" when they're busy updating entire continents? I think they have their priorities in-line.

You want the devs to to a bullshot trailer by removing imperfections that exist in the actual product just to make the trailer?

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I wish every dev actually showed their games the way they'll look at launch. How many games in the last decade have released with everything from missing shadows, to shittier textures, to heavily reduced geometry? You keep shitting on it for some reason and claim it's never going to be fixed, but the software is a flight sim, it's not a normal video game. Sims are constantly updated over time. MFS has already had two massive map updates, one of which greatly improved an entire country with new elevation data and a lot more photogrammetric data. MFS will absolutely continue to evolve as time goes on.





That would be a feat, in major centers like New York on even a beefy PC this simulator gets pretty heavy and starts to chug.

The game's performance depends on your connection too, an unstable connection can cause some severe performance drops. I have a 600+Mbps connection but at launch there was a lot of work being done in my area so our internet was cutting in and out and speeds hopping around. The sim became unplayable during that time, otherwise with a solid connection my frame-rates and how the game looked was consistently impressive.

I expect no less than a constant 30 fps in quality mode, and I as a discerning consumer in fact believe to be it very disingenuous of MS to show a nearly perfect representation of the game - aside from one particular scene with notable pop in - one scene with notable pop in - in a trailer meant to give the consumer a comprehensive view of what they can expect to find therein. I take this to mean MS is communicating in a covert manner that this game will have visual defects - and notable pop in - even if it only in fact shows up currently in the trailer in during one sequence inexplicably.
 
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