Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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GHG
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Those of us left who haven't yet been thread banned, buy yourself a pint.
And the very post nailed it.
Every week it's recycled PR, and these warring threads.
All these months later and nothings changed.
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Banjo64
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Fair point.
It's what me and Adam were discussing on the page where you posted
They used xCloud figures, not GPU.
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POKEYCLYDE
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When they weighed 1 year of loss revenue against 5 years of gains? That math that made them amend their provisional findings? That had nothing to do with math?
Wulfer
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but but but our experts insiders said the CMA did the math wrong
EU Official Says CMA Overstated Microsoft's Share in Cloud Gaming Market
An EU official went on record to say that the UK's CMA has overstated Microsoft's supposed cloud gaming market share (60-70%).wccftech.com
That's me right there I'm one of those users. The experience wasn't for me. Sorry
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GHG
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jonnyp
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Nabbed post 50,000k as welldouble nerd Olympic winner, you'll never sing that!
X-Wing
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I always do my best to write slowly so people who can't read fast won't feel left behind.
PaintTinJr
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We were members of the EU when the Premier League's Fit-and-Proper-person's test was cobbled together by local associations - and has frequently been discussed as unfit for purpose by incumbent governments that were reluctant to intervene because of the UEFA/FIFA threat of banning teams and associations under direct control of their nation's governments until the Blatter, etc corruption accusations.
The European super league was an issue of business market competition - like this issue - rather than ownership, hence why they would have blocked it legally to protect our oldest professional sports leagues' business.
In today's environment ownership is tougher to regulated because of precedence, but if Ken Bates had never sold Chelsea to Roman while we were part of the EU, I'm confident that most ownerships today would get blocked by the CMA - and hopefully a local billionaire is taking full control of United from the Glazers, soon.
Here's a question for you: what is more likely? This deal? or Man City having titles taken from them -and (IIRC) Mourinho at United getting a belated Prem league Winners medal?
(As a long standing United support, having seen Beckham and Cantona at Old Trafford) I think the latter is more likely, and still not happening either
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jm89
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CMA have shown willingness to make amendments, you think Microsoft didn't try give evidence to the contrary for the cloud concerns?Wouldn't be the first time the CMA fucked up the math
Or did they wait for CMA to block it and then want to point out some issues, playing some bizzare 4d chess.
CMA can absolutley block this again just alone for their concerns of cloud gaming being an emerging market and microsofts huge advantage through various means in the future.
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Heisenberg007
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1,000 pages!
Perhaps the real "acquisition" was the friends we acquired along the way.
Perhaps the real "acquisition" was the friends we acquired along the way.
93xfan
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So the CMA isn't supposed to be able to see the truth between PR lies. Why was the EU and everyone else able to sort out the truth?
X-Wing
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You don't need a thread for that. You have Lulu, Kotick and Brad Smith's behavior to stand as evidence.
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PaintTinJr
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There isn't wiggle room, because the CMA are only working on "balance of probabilities" with their objective to be overly protective of competition than not.
(edit) Passed 1000pages and you still aren't getting that this isn't the US, where both start at zero. The CMA start at 49 of 100 if investigating a merger with a suspected SLC, and it is the merging parties' responsibility to use the remaining 51% to prove that an SLC isn't an issue, or change the game with structural remedies to take that 49% down many levels to favour the merger more than blocking.
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Wulfer
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I don't think it's that simple. Why would MS hire these top notch lawyers if they thought they would really lose? Have you looked at this case from that point of view? You think MS just loves to waste money on a dead deal? They must be seeing something that we don't see. This is the only thing that makes any sense. They're about to throw away 3 billion to ABK. Why in the world would they be hiring these high level lawyers, if they didn't think they could win? Are we missing something or do we not have of enough pieces of this puzzle? This thread will be timeless no matter the outcome!
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jm89
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They already had top notch lawyers or did they hire some graduates? CMA still kicked them in the nuts regardless.
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Heisenberg007
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You answered your own question.
Microsoft's $3 billion is on the line. The clock is ticking. Microsoft is hiring these people and giving it their last best shot in an attempt to save those $3 billion (and get ABK).
The CMA may again kick them down, but this is Microsoft's best route forward, at least until July 18. After that, the best way forward would be to abandon the deal as soon as possible.
ShaiKhulud1989
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I mean trying their best until July 18 is literally part of the contract. After that deadline? Yeah, well, I expect some very cold shower for fanboys and very tame PR-text about exchanging 3b on MS/ATVI websites.
DeepEnigma
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MS themselves with their cloud/infrastructure push for 10+ years and beyond with all their infrastructure data and plans is what got it blocked.
The EU agreed with those concerns, ironically.
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HoldTheAir
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If this drags out into 2024, we may make it to 2,000 pages.
feynoob
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Most of us will be dead tired by then.
harry mason 1989
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Hopefully this shit will end on July
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
IllegalLemon
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That Microsoft brainwashing is clearly evident in some people. They never ever try to hide it at all. It seems like our buddy Sen-Shit Cray-Cray is huffing the hopium so hard that to him, cloud gaming is now a nascent market "just because". He couldn't quiet down about how big Xcloud was and now, it's literally a full on flip-flop and the cloud gaming market is suddenly tiny. The level of absolute ignorance and cognitive dissonance on display with fanboys like those guys is absolutely insane. They suddenly became experts in predicting market size and growth for specific markets based on information and data pulled from nowhere, but the big gaping hole their heads have been stuck inside for far longer than I can remember. I think it's time for them to quit huffing all that hardcore hopium and return to reality. Because apparently reality is far more bleak and unforgiving than they seem to think.
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IllegalLemon
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Yep that's why the cloud is a nascent market... According to Microsoft and their fanboys.
It's actually not
gothmog
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No shit. One rant by the Twitterati idiots racks up 3-4 pages of posts per tweet. We're accelerating at this point.Cute that you think it's gonna take 2024 for this thread to reach 2000 pages
What happened? Wasn't cloud gaming what MS were preparing for its offensive to make a comeback this gen? Were you drinking the kool-aid until cloud gaming got in the way of the acquisition?
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Unknown Soldier
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1000 pages and this shit still isn't over yet...
bitbydeath
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I don't think even divesting Azure would save the deal at this point. They had an opportunity to work things out with the CMA and instead acted like clowns, thinking they were above the law.
It's dead.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Who's the person who made the post today that linked me all the way back to Page 18? Are you trying to kill me
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ZehDon
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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sachos
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Damn, hopes crashed.
Pelta88
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Stardust_Dragon
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Has this story/news been mentioned on here yet?
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/18/doj-lawsuit-korean-airline-merger-00097547
It's not directly related to this acquisition news between Microsoft and ABK, but I still found it interesting given some of the content of the article, and how it is perhaps tangentially related to the process that this Microsoft-ABK merger is going through. Specifically, I found this excerpt to be the most intriguing of all:
"Though the United States does not have jurisdiction over the companies' conduct inside South Korea, where both airlines are based, it can still seek to block the merger on the basis of harm to competition in the U.S. Because the U.S. is an important market for the airlines, they have a significant incentive to resolve the DOJ's concerns prior to a trial."
That sounds familiar somehow ... and I should also add the person who wrote that article for Politico is the same individual who wrote this article back in November last year: Article
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/18/doj-lawsuit-korean-airline-merger-00097547
It's not directly related to this acquisition news between Microsoft and ABK, but I still found it interesting given some of the content of the article, and how it is perhaps tangentially related to the process that this Microsoft-ABK merger is going through. Specifically, I found this excerpt to be the most intriguing of all:
"Though the United States does not have jurisdiction over the companies' conduct inside South Korea, where both airlines are based, it can still seek to block the merger on the basis of harm to competition in the U.S. Because the U.S. is an important market for the airlines, they have a significant incentive to resolve the DOJ's concerns prior to a trial."
That sounds familiar somehow ... and I should also add the person who wrote that article for Politico is the same individual who wrote this article back in November last year: Article
James Sawyer Ford
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I don't think it's any coincidence that Sony announced the Playstation Showcase for end of May, immediately after they have confirmation from the CMA and EU regarding the Activision/Microsoft deal. I really do think the primary reason we have not seen a showcase is due to this acquisition, as Sony did not want to weaken their position with a strong games showing for the future.
Now that the CMA has said that their concerns are unrelated to console competition, but ended up ruling in favor of blocking the deal for Cloud related reasons, and the EU has approved the deal despite having the same concerns as the CMA, Sony now knows the major regulatory impact direction and there's simply no need to withold their plans any longer. Them having a showcase won't weaken their position for the Activision/Microsoft deal in the future.
It's why I also think the claim that Jim Ryan is now focused on "Total Mindshare' and "Make a Statement and Make Noise" may have some truth as Jim has likely specifically withheld a significant portion of their long-term plans as a result of that merger.
Now that the CMA has said that their concerns are unrelated to console competition, but ended up ruling in favor of blocking the deal for Cloud related reasons, and the EU has approved the deal despite having the same concerns as the CMA, Sony now knows the major regulatory impact direction and there's simply no need to withold their plans any longer. Them having a showcase won't weaken their position for the Activision/Microsoft deal in the future.
It's why I also think the claim that Jim Ryan is now focused on "Total Mindshare' and "Make a Statement and Make Noise" may have some truth as Jim has likely specifically withheld a significant portion of their long-term plans as a result of that merger.
IFireflyl
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1,000 pages!
Perhaps the real "acquisition" was the friends we acquired along the way.
I hate everyone in this thread.
Wulfer
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I don't know Three I beta tested it. I tried to like it. I just prefer to game at home. To me Xcloud is just another way to play. It's not my preferred way to play but, it is another option.
demigod
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He knows that shit is blocked.
freefornow
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Showcase will open with next COD gameplay and highlight exclusive perks.
feynoob
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Rich people.
If any working class defends this shit, god help us.
Topher
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feynoob
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There is a talk that shit can last up to 2 years.
I hope you brought your Viagra, if you want to last longer.
demigod
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An appeal is simply not worth it. They are dragging this out until the deal deadline. They missed out on Tomb Raider for dirt cheap because of this ongoing acquisition. They will get this over with and try to buy other companies that won't alert the regulators.
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L*][*N*K
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I feel like we are saying "its dead" too much
Ronin_7
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Only pathetic fanboys could defend such statement. Feels bad for their employees when they are already paid below their peers from Faang but i guess it what it is.
bitbydeath
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They could try again in 10 years but I doubt it'll help.
Dick Jones
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Xbox will have enough time to make its Call of Duty competitor by then, so they won't bother.
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