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would that be activision?
Probably. Sounds like something Kotick would try.
would that be activision?
Shit.....just realized I'm doing this all wrong.
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You were legitimately in character for a couple of posts there. I was beginning to wonder if he had got to you.
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Round and around we goooo. Isn't this fun? Entertaining at times but i am ready to get off this ride now.
They can just come to the same conclusion, just remove whatever the CAT disagrees with.So if the appeal is successful the CMA can still kill the deal through structural remedies?
So if the appeal is successful the CMA can still kill the deal through structural remedies?
Round and around we goooo. Isn't this fun? Entertaining at times but i am ready to get off this ride now.
Round and around we goooo. Isn't this fun? Entertaining at times but i am ready to get off this ride now.
I think that's a no.Seems so. What I want to know is if Microsoft can appeal a second time.
Nope. They need to produce some more excuses about the Activision Blizzard Acquisition. Back to the Drawing Board for CMASo if the appeal is successful the CMA can still kill the deal through structural remedies?
Yeah, but that's very subjective and going to be extremely hard to nail down in, especially in court.That's true but I think $70 for Redfall and the fact that it hasn't dropped in price is ridiculous and shows that they don't really care much for sales of the game on stores. What's important to them is engagement on their sub.
This, it's not a separate market to B2P.A separate market to B2P
That would be a license to the consumer, right?MS are free to do with the original game licence price as they wish without restriction.
Microsoft doesn't have to enable games on other MGS subscription services, that's true but that's not very different to the status quo.Whether that is B2P or MGS, how would the free cloud licence help the cloud provider if they rely on competing MGS services or B2P stores? That licence can be set at any price to partially foreclose any competing MGS or store making those cloud providers just MS customers in a separate market.
They should be in the full investigation documents that they upload later or at least alot more infomHopefully we get them. I don't think the EC are obligated to share them but I might be wrong there.
That's normal but you do have the option to use your game pass subscription on other cloud providers to get ABK games. The EU thinks that's an improvement for consumers and companies apposed to the alternative.That's the thing, they're not tied to the streaming platform but the original MGS service or B2P store platform. To the original game license and not the free cloud one. Steam cloud saves, windows store cloud saves and gamepass are what provides the cloud saves. Not boosteriod, not GFN. The streaming platform has been separated. Now if you were enticed into gamepass due to competition in MGS where are you most likely to go for cloud now? I'd bet it's an upgrade to gamepass ultimate, not elsewhere.
As you said, you wouldn't need to buy another license for 70-80 if the cloud provider has taken up the free license.You won't buy a separate licence at $70-80 to play on some other cloud provider that isn’t a MS customer and lose your progress to boot.
Thank fuck. It's as corrupt as it gets.I'm guessing they found out that shit don't work with the CMA.
I think your crossed out sentence might be correct. The 'may' is the key word but yeah, it's unlikely.All comes down to the Tribunal now. I posted this last week some time, but not sure if anyone caught it.The CAT can overturn the CMA's decision entirely without returning it to the CMA. As unlikely as that is, it is still a distinct possibility.
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You on the right, everyone else in this thread on the left:
I think your crossed out sentence might be correct. The 'may' is the key word but yeah, it's unlikely.
I think your crossed out sentence might be correct. The 'may' is the key word but yeah, it's unlikely.
I think he was jokingYou were dropped on your head a lot as a child, weren't you.
Nope. They need to produce some more excuses about the Activision Blizzard Acquisition. Back to the Drawing Board for CMA
The meltdowns have been legendary the past few weeks between this and the PS showcase. Passion is good but you can't let yourself be ruled solely by emotion.The CMAs decision really made some people fall apart pretty badly. Haven't seen so many crazy theories in a very long time.
They just need to accept that Microsoft is following proper procedure to try and get this through.
Nope. They need to produce some more excuses about the Activision Blizzard Acquisition. Back to the Drawing Board for CMA
That is some hilarious shit.
I should feel bad for the kid but her laugh is too much![]()
It’s why so many feel this deal has an air of inevitability to it.So they are out right saying they are happy to throw money at the UK government just to get a decision in their favour?
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It’s why so many feel this deal has an air of inevitability to it.
MS can appeal the decision.Explain what just came through like I am 5. Please. Legally things...
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I still think this deal will go through with Remedies like having games on other cloud services permanently, instead of the 10 year contract. It wouldn't matter if Microsoft said 'Fuck it' lets make Call of Duty exclusive, since the Remedies isn't about console gaming. Microsoft wouldn't do that, they aren't Anti-Consumer.No, they don't. They have to address what the CAT highlights as errors and reconsider. It isn't "back to the drawing board" at all unless the CAT quashes the finding in its entirety.
It does depend on what the CAT says. If CAT says the marketshare data isn't valid then the CMA will have to find other data or post decision ignoring that marketshare data.Reading through this again they don't have to restart the process. They can still use the data they have to come to the same conclusion or one that's difficult for Microsoft to accept.
Point a in ground 1 is the only interesting one for me but that feels like a stretch.So, I assume, Ground 1 is the only real one where they can make some headway.
Yeah, I still got that gnaw in the back of my head just waiting for the other shoe to drop....
It does depend on what the CAT says. If CAT says the marketshare data isn't valid then the CMA will have to find other data or post decision ignoring that marketshare data.
To further clarify blocking it isn't the only way the CMA can kill the deal. If they demand extreme concessions that could make the deal seem like a waste. We know Microsoft doesn't want to lose COD for example.
Considering his post history, he probably is just that dumb.I think he was joking![]()
I still think this deal will go through with Remedies like having games on other cloud services permanently, instead of the 10 year contract. It wouldn't matter if Microsoft said 'Fuck it' lets make Call of Duty exclusive, since the Remedies isn't about console gaming. Microsoft wouldn't do that, they aren't Anti-Consumer.
Thank fuck. It's as corrupt as it gets.
Lobbying only benefits the highest bidder.
It's like a script.Microsoft wouldn't do that, they aren't Anti-Consumer.
Getting data and interpretating it wrong is something that's happened before but just saying that they can't resubmit something CAT has deliberately stuck out.Didn't they get the data from Microsoft?
Maybe I'm just not understanding this right.
I know MS doesn't want to divest COD but at this point i almost feel like they should and just get this over and done with. I'm assuming there would be stipulations to divestment in place preventing MS from going back to whoever buys COD and just moneyhatting exclusivity for the foreseeable future? Not that i want that to happen, just curious.
Getting data and interpretating it wrong is something that's happened before but just saying that they can't resubmit something CAT has deliberately stuck out.
After that showcase I dont really care anymore if Jimbo loses COD, maybe he will get the memo and produce some games then lol
Holy shit this actually got me to laugh out loud irl
For sure, i am definitely that dumbConsidering his post history, he probably is just that dumb.
Sage used to pull the same crap before he got permed.And he's back...
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