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Sage, Florian and dozens of others!does anyone actually see this going through
Sage, Florian and dozens of others!does anyone actually see this going through
i meant humans not morons.Sage, Florian and dozens of others!
I still think there is good chances to go through.does anyone actually see this going through
After being extensively ridiculed, bullied and threatened by MS and MS shills, even if the CAT does order the CMA to reevaluate, they will most likely still block it or, just to say they changed something, they'll approve on the condition of divestment, something MS will NEVER accept.Yes, I think the CMA will be given no option but to offer potential remedies in the end.
I'm not so sure.After being extensively ridiculed, bullied and threatened by MS and MS shills, even if the CAT does order the CMA to reevaluate, they will most likely still block it or, just to say they changed something, they'll approve on the condition of divestment, something MS will NEVER accept.
I'm not so sure.
probably rightBest to just leave it off. Twitter cannot help themselves.
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It needs a login nowThink the stream fucked up at the worse possible time re the schedules.
Some one is theorizing that the FTC are going to file their injunction soon.
Take that with a pinch of salt.
there were supposed to be talks last week between MS and the CMA. so MS must've told them we're closing with or without you, and the CMA called up their collusion buddies over at the FTC. FTC is now scrambling.
Same question. I don't think they can close at this point because the contract was dependent on the CMA's approval.I'm confused... CMA blocked the deal so this can't move forward regardless, right? What are they worried about then?
I'm confused... CMA blocked the deal so this can't move forward regardless, right? What are they worried about then?
- In order to be granted a preliminary injunction from a judge, the FTC needs to show that there's an imminent risk that the companies would close the deal.
This just prove the deal is close to be done.MLex reports that Microsoft and Activision can expect the FTC injunction request in federal court today!
- The Federal Trade Commission is planning to file a preliminary injunction request in federal court today to stop the deal from closing.
- The FTC anticipates that the parties are moving to speed up the closing date of the transaction, that's why the FTC will seek a temporary order in federal court preventing that from happening. The agency would need to act before the companies close the transaction, which would otherwise make a preliminary injunction moot.
- The FTC wants to avoid another Illumina-Grail case, where it filed a preliminary injunction request and a complaint at its administrative court, but later dropped the preliminary injunction because the European Commission was still reviewing the deal. Then Illumina ended up closing the deal.
- In order to be granted a preliminary injunction from a judge, the FTC needs to show that there's an imminent risk that the companies would close the deal.
- In the gamer's lawsuit, a federal judge in California declined to issue a preliminary injunction blocking the deal from closing.
They don't believe in the appeal then
This just prove the deal is close to be done.
Most of the people left in that thread are nutcases who have been cheerleading for the deal since the beginning. Any dissent had been banned.People are cheering on ERA for a big win from Microsoft on today's audience at the CAT. I don't seem to find much explanation on why, anyone has any clue?
Well... The deal is now in state of appeal, so some are theorizing that Microsoft could close it.Same question. I don't think they can close at this point because the contract was dependent on the CMA's approval.
But the deal has been blocked.Well... The deal is now in state of appeal, so some are theorizing that Microsoft could close it.
CMA can get a court order issued to block it though apparently.
But the deal has been blocked.
The appeal process doesn't change anything. if the appeal is successful, then it may be unblocked. For now, it is blocked.
I put them in the same group as Flat Earthers. Crazy but still have followers.i meant humans not morons.
MLex reports that Microsoft and Activision can expect the FTC injunction request in federal court today!
- The Federal Trade Commission is planning to file a preliminary injunction request in federal court today to stop the deal from closing.
- The FTC anticipates that the parties are moving to speed up the closing date of the transaction, that's why the FTC will seek a temporary order in federal court preventing that from happening. The agency would need to act before the companies close the transaction, which would otherwise make a preliminary injunction moot.
- The FTC wants to avoid another Illumina-Grail case, where it filed a preliminary injunction request and a complaint at its administrative court, but later dropped the preliminary injunction because the European Commission was still reviewing the deal. Then Illumina ended up closing the deal.
- In order to be granted a preliminary injunction from a judge, the FTC needs to show that there's an imminent risk that the companies would close the deal.
- In the gamer's lawsuit, a federal judge in California declined to issue a preliminary injunction blocking the deal from closing.
Won’t the FTC have to have some kind of evidence for the injunction to be issued?I wonder if FTC wants to seize the opportunity of the recent reports that Microsoft might be considering to bypass the CMA ruling and use them as a proof of immediate danger to reinforce the CMA's stance and make sure there is no way they can avoid re-negotiation and closing the deal in any way before the end of July.
If this report is true.
I think some people have misunderstood how a requirement for CMA to approve would relate to closing. There is a 98-99% chance that a CMA rejection would only protect MS from being forced to close (and pay full amount). Regulatory approvals don't matter to the seller nearly as much. Activision's current shareholders don't care if the company ceases operations after they get paid for their shares. Activision shareholders are unlikely to care unless they have obligations they would be personally liable for if Activision operations in UK shut down after MS buys the shares.The contract depended on CMA's approval -- which they did not get.
I don't believe closing the acquisition is even an option. This all seems like smoke to me. Maybe even tricking FTC into filing an injunction and abandoning their previous plan?
That is why I'm speculating there might be some evidence relatively to the nature of the recent reports about them considering ways to go ahead irrespective of normal legal procedures.Won’t the FTC have to have some kind of evidence for the injunction to be issued?
It's just goes to show that MS can work around that part of the agreement and that the FTC expects it.The contract depended on CMA's approval -- which they did not get.
I don't believe closing the acquisition is even an option. This all seems like smoke to me. Maybe even tricking FTC into filing an injunction and abandoning their previous plan?
Yeah I pointed this out earlier in the thread. Mergers often occur where the purchasing company just wants to mothball the company they are buying.I think some people have misunderstood how a requirement for CMA to approve would relate to closing. There is a 98-99% chance that a CMA rejection would only protect MS from being forced to close (and pay full amount). Regulatory approvals don't matter to the seller nearly as much. Activision's current shareholders don't care if the company ceases operations after they get paid for their shares. Activision shareholders are unlikely to care unless they have obligations they would be personally liable for if Activision operations in UK shut down after MS buys the shares.
So if FTC files an injunction to stop the deal and they lose in court which is the most likely scenario according to analysts then wouldn't this just help MS in their appeal to CAT? Filing the injunction speeds up the process right. I dont know what is going on anymore.
The FTC has avoided the injunction though because they knew they had a weak case. What changed? Are they desperate or do they have new found evidence that gives them the upper hand?
I wish I could be behind the curtains sometimes to know all these secrets.
In a nutshell (and unless there are specific rules for these kinds of cases that stray from the ordinary), for a preliminary injunction:Won’t the FTC have to have some kind of evidence for the injunction to be issued?
The FTC has avoided the injunction though because they knew they had a weak case. What changed?
In a nutshell (and unless there are specific rules for these kinds of cases that stray from the ordinary), for a preliminary injunction:
1) The FTC would have to show some level of likely success after trial. Does not mean that have to prove they will win. Only that they have a decent enough chance.
2) They would also need to show some sort of potential imminent harm (such as closure and difficulty to unwind).
The reports of intent to close despite the CMA appeal would be enough to open the door on the second requirement. MS would get a chance to deny that though (if not true of course).
You do not know this. They might have felt they couldn't prove imminent harm due to other countries still reviewing for all we know. Would be unrelated to the merits of their own case. They could also have been "lazy" (for lack of a better term only), in that they figured they would never need to go this far because of confidence the deal would end before they needed to.
The Federal Trade Commission is set to file for an injunction seeking to block Microsoft’s proposed acquisition of Activision Blizzard, a person familiar with the matter told CNBC.
The FTC had already sued to block the $68.7 billion acquisition, but chose to bring the case before its internal administrative law judge. Through that trial-like process, the ALJ would make an initial decision that could be appealed to the full commission for a vote. After that, Microsoft could appeal to a federal court should the decision not go its way.
By filing for an injunction, the FTC is seeking to stop the acquisition from going through before its July 18 deadline.
Microsoft told CNBC it would welcome the injunction as it would bring the case before a federal judge faster.
CMA - responsible for strengthening business competition and preventing and reducing anti-competitive activities.Was there a merger or acquisition involved?
It's basically the same as asking why school teachers don't stop bank robberies.
CMA - responsible for strengthening business competition and preventing and reducing anti-competitive activities.
Not putting contracts out to tender and awarding to family/friends, seems to cover their remit.
Sort of feels like they're just trying to rush to do what they can while they can? Everyone keeps dancing around saying the deal is dead/blocked now but from CMA/FTA actions right now that doesn't seem at all to be the case... dunno how but whatever.
alright, thanks!
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FTC will try to block Microsoft's acquisition of Activision Blizzard
The FTC had already sued to block the $68.7 billion acquisition, choosing to bring the case before its internal administrative law judge.www.cnbc.com
Yeah, that's beyond their scope. lol