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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?


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Kilau

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So, pretty much, this thread has evolved into an echo chamber of Sony supporters rooting against Microsoft.

Interesting. Let's see how this unfolds...
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The Pleasure

Gold Member
So, pretty much, this thread has evolved into an echo chamber of Sony supporters rooting against Microsoft.

Interesting. Let's see how this unfolds...
Here's a question for you. How familiar are you with Microsoft? Because in the past, they were stating they wanted to kill all competition against them. They did that to ibm with the os/2 operating system, they did it to netscape with web browsers, they tried to control the internet by forcing certain modalities and ActiveX. They essentially destroyed office productivity by the near death of corel and they invested in apple only to prevent a monopoly where they were already being threatened with being broken up. Is that the type of shit you want to cheer for?
 
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Topher

Identifies as young
Remember how many backdoors there was on that shit to get infected and lose control of your pc through ActiveX?

Yeah, Microsoft integrated IE and all that ActiveX crap into Windows. Pretty much laid the groundwork every thousands of virus script kiddies.
 
Here's a question for you. How familiar are you with Microsoft? Because in the past, they were stating they wanted to kill all competition against them. They did that to ibm with the os/2 operating system, they did it to netscape with web browsers, they tried to control the internet by forcing certain modalities and ActiveX. They essentially destroyed office productivity by the near death of corel and they invested in apple only to prevent a monopoly where they were already being threatened with being broken up. Is that the type of shit you want to cheer for?
The self-righteousness and faux morality in this thread is rich...really rich.

I made a simple observation, based on the comments in this thread. It's evident that most of the people here, at this point, are Sony supporters and aren't in favour of the deal going through. If they aren't Sony supporters, then they just don't like MS/Xbox, which is fine. I personally don't care about the death of office productivity, or IBM, or any of that... I really don't care. Nor will I use those things, that happened 20 and even 30 years ago, as a basis to examine what is happening now, based on the context of information available now. And I truly do not think Activision/Blizzard is so powerful, that MS (or any company that acquires them) will single-handedly dominate the gaming industry with their acquisition. I won't invest the energy you guys invest into going back and forth about this, obviously very important matter to you. Instead, I'll just wait and see what the courts think. Will the deal go through? Who knows. If it doesn't, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I can imagine a fire would be burning in your belly though.

But honestly, I don't think it's that serious, even if they were to acquire them. The world gets along just fine, just like it does now. Success for the deal, or failure really isn't going to make the world any better or worse, despite what you might think. This just isn't one of those things. Microsoft has you in some sort of stranglehold that you have to use Office products at your job, and if you didn't have to, your life would be so much better? MS really fncked you over, huh? It's so serious for you that you're now the champion of all things right and righteous... You're the hero in this story? Pulling MS's villain card, to show the world how evil and malevolent they are? That's what this is? What about other companies? You think Sony's your friend, or something? Do you display this same level of activism for other, more serious atrocities out there? You probably do. It's pretty time-consuming, I bet. Pretty tiring too, as though the gaming world needs saving from this acquisition. Hey, maybe you're right...maybe it does. Maybe it's the principle that counts.

As for the "Cheer, for MS?" I made an observation; I'm not cheering for anyone. Where did you see cheering in that post? I have other posts, where I'm cheering... Sue me. Personally, I want the deal to go through, because I support Xbox, primarily play on Xbox, and would be happy about better offerings for Xbox players like myself. I guess that makes me a villain, or the supporter of a villainous company. Sure. Probably even makes me an obvious dumbass, in you and almost everyone's opinion in this discussion. I'm okay with that though. I won't seek forgiveness; it's really not that serious to me. It's Xbox; it's not my life. I love gaming, but it's still just gaming. Microsoft isn't going to get a strange hold on the gaming industry by buying Activision; there's still too much strong competition out there. But, in any case, continue the good fight brother. Stop these evil corporations from ruining your fun, or crushing the small man, or, becoming a monopoly (they won't, not from this acquisition), or preventing gamers from having access to Activision/Blizzard games in the next 10-years, or whatever. Good luck.
 
Complaining about an "echo chamber" by inserting useless noise isn't exactly what I'd call a substantive contribution to the thread.

Awkward John Krasinski GIF by Saturday Night Live
An observation is a complaint? Why is everyone in this thread so sensitive? Anything...any opinion other than "this deal can't go through, and shouldn't go through, and is wrong" is automatically considered...complaining, or irrational, or...seriously?

Just scroll through the responses; it's pretty much 10 to 1, for those who want the deal to fall through; that's an echo chamber, is it not. It's practically a discussion filled with everyone, who has the same opinion or desire, stroking each other's backs in support, and high-fiving each other. And any person who doesn't share their opinion, in an open forum, is the bad guy or an idiot, or just some biased ignoramus or something. And me pointing that out is somehow unreasonable or petty or... Okay, sure.

Continue as y'all were; I was just passing through. It's my bad...it's obviously unwise to go where you're not welcomed. I'll leave y'all alone now, to get back to what y'all were doing.
 
As for the "Cheer, for MS?" I made an observation; I'm not cheering for anyone. Where did you see cheering in that post? I have other posts, where I'm cheering... Sue me. Personally, I want the deal to go through, because I support Xbox, primarily play on Xbox, and would be happy about better offerings for Xbox players like myself

Many (most?) people in this thread are multi console owners. We own PS5, we own Xbox, we own Switch.

We don't like this deal because it's a $70B acquisition of the largest publisher in gaming, and that has the possibility to negatively disrupt what Activision represents going forward and even what it means for competing third party studios going forward who now must be pitted against a GamePass subsidy for their largest rival. History is littered with examples of terribly large acquisitions gone bad. It can severely disrupt the industry which leads to lower quality output. As a gamer, you should be concerned.

I don't think any "Sony fans" were upset at MS buying Playground, a studio they helped directly support and build. Microsoft had nothing to do with Activision's success. Many Sony fans are against big acquisiton rumors like Sony buying Take 2 for example. I don't think it adds anything to gaming and is a waste of capital.
 
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An observation is a complaint? Why is everyone in this thread so sensitive? Anything...any opinion other than "this deal can't go through, and shouldn't go through, and is wrong" is automatically considered...complaining, or irrational, or...seriously?

Just scroll through the responses; it's pretty much 10 to 1, for those who want the deal to fall through; that's an echo chamber, is it not. It's practically a discussion filled with everyone, who has the same opinion or desire, stroking each other's backs in support, and high-fiving each other. And any person who doesn't share their opinion, in an open forum, is the bad guy or an idiot, or just some biased ignoramus or something. And me pointing that out is somehow unreasonable or petty or... Okay, sure.

Continue as y'all were; I was just passing through. It's my bad...it's obviously unwise to go where you're not welcomed. I'll leave y'all alone now, to get back to what y'all were doing.

Well it's just like marketshare. You can't expect it to be split down the middle. One side will always be bigger than the other. Doesn't mean the thread doesn't have good discussions though. But I agree there's a lot of B.S which was partially mitigated by banning Florian Mueller as a source for example.
 

ShaiKhulud1989

Gold Member
Many (most?) people in this thread are multi console owners. We own PS5, we own Xbox, we own Switch.

We don't like this deal because it's a $70B acquisition of the largest publisher in gaming, and that has the possibility to negatively disrupt what Activision represents going forward and even what it means for competing third party studios going forward who now must be pitted against a GamePass subsidy for their largest rival. History is littered with examples of terribly large acquisitions gone bad. It can severely disrupt the industry which leads to lower quality output. As a gamer, you should be concerned.

I don't think any "Sony fans" were upset at MS buying Playground, a studio they helped directly support and build. Microsoft had nothing to do with Activision's success. Many Sony fans are against big acquisiton rumors like Sony buying Take 2 for example. I don't think it adds anything to gaming and is a waste of capital.
Me, myself, is primarily a PC Gamer. And because I know Microsoft's antics I'm strongly against any more consolidation that is driven by that company.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
Many (most?) people in this thread are multi console owners. We own PS5, we own Xbox, we own Switch.

We don't like this deal because it's a $70B acquisition of the largest publisher in gaming, and that has the possibility to negatively disrupt what Activision represents going forward and even what it means for competing third party studios going forward who now must be pitted against a GamePass subsidy for their largest rival. History is littered with examples of terribly large acquisitions gone bad. It can severely disrupt the industry which leads to lower quality output. As a gamer, you should be concerned.

I don't think any "Sony fans" were upset at MS buying Playground, a studio they helped directly support and build. Microsoft had nothing to do with Activision's success. Many Sony fans are against big acquisiton rumors like Sony buying Take 2 for example. I don't think it adds anything to gaming and is a waste of capital.

Yeah, a good number of us have been clear throughout this process that we are against platform owners (including Sony) acquiring publishers or any large scale consolidation in the industry. I personally don't see this as a good thing for the industry or gaming.

Not that anyone actually asked these questions though, huh? Seems Gorilla is good at making some baseless assumptions rather than actually engaging in conversation.
 
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Edmund

is waiting for Starfield 7
The self-righteousness and faux morality in this thread is rich...really rich.

I made a simple observation, based on the comments in this thread. It's evident that most of the people here, at this point, are Sony supporters and aren't in favour of the deal going through. If they aren't Sony supporters, then they just don't like MS/Xbox, which is fine. I personally don't care about the death of office productivity, or IBM, or any of that... I really don't care. Nor will I use those things, that happened 20 and even 30 years ago, as a basis to examine what is happening now, based on the context of information available now. And I truly do not think Activision/Blizzard is so powerful, that MS (or any company that acquires them) will single-handedly dominate the gaming industry with their acquisition. I won't invest the energy you guys invest into going back and forth about this, obviously very important matter to you. Instead, I'll just wait and see what the courts think. Will the deal go through? Who knows. If it doesn't, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I can imagine a fire would be burning in your belly though.

But honestly, I don't think it's that serious, even if they were to acquire them. The world gets along just fine, just like it does now. Success for the deal, or failure really isn't going to make the world any better or worse, despite what you might think. This just isn't one of those things. Microsoft has you in some sort of stranglehold that you have to use Office products at your job, and if you didn't have to, your life would be so much better? MS really fncked you over, huh? It's so serious for you that you're now the champion of all things right and righteous... You're the hero in this story? Pulling MS's villain card, to show the world how evil and malevolent they are? That's what this is? What about other companies? You think Sony's your friend, or something? Do you display this same level of activism for other, more serious atrocities out there? You probably do. It's pretty time-consuming, I bet. Pretty tiring too, as though the gaming world needs saving from this acquisition. Hey, maybe you're right...maybe it does. Maybe it's the principle that counts.

As for the "Cheer, for MS?" I made an observation; I'm not cheering for anyone. Where did you see cheering in that post? I have other posts, where I'm cheering... Sue me. Personally, I want the deal to go through, because I support Xbox, primarily play on Xbox, and would be happy about better offerings for Xbox players like myself. I guess that makes me a villain, or the supporter of a villainous company. Sure. Probably even makes me an obvious dumbass, in you and almost everyone's opinion in this discussion. I'm okay with that though. I won't seek forgiveness; it's really not that serious to me. It's Xbox; it's not my life. I love gaming, but it's still just gaming. Microsoft isn't going to get a strange hold on the gaming industry by buying Activision; there's still too much strong competition out there. But, in any case, continue the good fight brother. Stop these evil corporations from ruining your fun, or crushing the small man, or, becoming a monopoly (they won't, not from this acquisition), or preventing gamers from having access to Activision/Blizzard games in the next 10-years, or whatever. Good luck.


You don't care but you wrote an essay. Lmao.
 

Banjo64

cumsessed
The self-righteousness and faux morality in this thread is rich...really rich.

I made a simple observation, based on the comments in this thread. It's evident that most of the people here, at this point, are Sony supporters and aren't in favour of the deal going through. If they aren't Sony supporters, then they just don't like MS/Xbox, which is fine. I personally don't care about the death of office productivity, or IBM, or any of that... I really don't care. Nor will I use those things, that happened 20 and even 30 years ago, as a basis to examine what is happening now, based on the context of information available now. And I truly do not think Activision/Blizzard is so powerful, that MS (or any company that acquires them) will single-handedly dominate the gaming industry with their acquisition. I won't invest the energy you guys invest into going back and forth about this, obviously very important matter to you. Instead, I'll just wait and see what the courts think. Will the deal go through? Who knows. If it doesn't, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I can imagine a fire would be burning in your belly though.

But honestly, I don't think it's that serious, even if they were to acquire them. The world gets along just fine, just like it does now. Success for the deal, or failure really isn't going to make the world any better or worse, despite what you might think. This just isn't one of those things. Microsoft has you in some sort of stranglehold that you have to use Office products at your job, and if you didn't have to, your life would be so much better? MS really fncked you over, huh? It's so serious for you that you're now the champion of all things right and righteous... You're the hero in this story? Pulling MS's villain card, to show the world how evil and malevolent they are? That's what this is? What about other companies? You think Sony's your friend, or something? Do you display this same level of activism for other, more serious atrocities out there? You probably do. It's pretty time-consuming, I bet. Pretty tiring too, as though the gaming world needs saving from this acquisition. Hey, maybe you're right...maybe it does. Maybe it's the principle that counts.

As for the "Cheer, for MS?" I made an observation; I'm not cheering for anyone. Where did you see cheering in that post? I have other posts, where I'm cheering... Sue me. Personally, I want the deal to go through, because I support Xbox, primarily play on Xbox, and would be happy about better offerings for Xbox players like myself. I guess that makes me a villain, or the supporter of a villainous company. Sure. Probably even makes me an obvious dumbass, in you and almost everyone's opinion in this discussion. I'm okay with that though. I won't seek forgiveness; it's really not that serious to me. It's Xbox; it's not my life. I love gaming, but it's still just gaming. Microsoft isn't going to get a strange hold on the gaming industry by buying Activision; there's still too much strong competition out there. But, in any case, continue the good fight brother. Stop these evil corporations from ruining your fun, or crushing the small man, or, becoming a monopoly (they won't, not from this acquisition), or preventing gamers from having access to Activision/Blizzard games in the next 10-years, or whatever. Good luck.
Everyone against this is either a Sony fan or just don’t like Microsoft or Xbox.


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poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Many (most?) people in this thread are multi console owners. We own PS5, we own Xbox, we own Switch.

We don't like this deal because it's a $70B acquisition of the largest publisher in gaming, and that has the possibility to negatively disrupt what Activision represents going forward and even what it means for competing third party studios going forward who now must be pitted against a GamePass subsidy for their largest rival. History is littered with examples of terribly large acquisitions gone bad. It can severely disrupt the industry which leads to lower quality output. As a gamer, you should be concerned.

I don't think any "Sony fans" were upset at MS buying Playground, a studio they helped directly support and build. Microsoft had nothing to do with Activision's success. Many Sony fans are against big acquisiton rumors like Sony buying Take 2 for example. I don't think it adds anything to gaming and is a waste of capital.
Activision/Blizzard/King are one of the largest publishers in the industry because they have consolidated and consolidated. They have already massively disrupted the industry in a negative fashion, trimmed their output to a tiny handful of games that are ongoing MMO's or yearly iterative sequels. Not sure MS buying them could improve matters, but the current status quo is already bad for the industry.
 

demigod

Member
The self-righteousness and faux morality in this thread is rich...really rich.

I made a simple observation, based on the comments in this thread. It's evident that most of the people here, at this point, are Sony supporters and aren't in favour of the deal going through. If they aren't Sony supporters, then they just don't like MS/Xbox, which is fine. I personally don't care about the death of office productivity, or IBM, or any of that... I really don't care. Nor will I use those things, that happened 20 and even 30 years ago, as a basis to examine what is happening now, based on the context of information available now. And I truly do not think Activision/Blizzard is so powerful, that MS (or any company that acquires them) will single-handedly dominate the gaming industry with their acquisition. I won't invest the energy you guys invest into going back and forth about this, obviously very important matter to you. Instead, I'll just wait and see what the courts think. Will the deal go through? Who knows. If it doesn't, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I can imagine a fire would be burning in your belly though.

But honestly, I don't think it's that serious, even if they were to acquire them. The world gets along just fine, just like it does now. Success for the deal, or failure really isn't going to make the world any better or worse, despite what you might think. This just isn't one of those things. Microsoft has you in some sort of stranglehold that you have to use Office products at your job, and if you didn't have to, your life would be so much better? MS really fncked you over, huh? It's so serious for you that you're now the champion of all things right and righteous... You're the hero in this story? Pulling MS's villain card, to show the world how evil and malevolent they are? That's what this is? What about other companies? You think Sony's your friend, or something? Do you display this same level of activism for other, more serious atrocities out there? You probably do. It's pretty time-consuming, I bet. Pretty tiring too, as though the gaming world needs saving from this acquisition. Hey, maybe you're right...maybe it does. Maybe it's the principle that counts.

As for the "Cheer, for MS?" I made an observation; I'm not cheering for anyone. Where did you see cheering in that post? I have other posts, where I'm cheering... Sue me. Personally, I want the deal to go through, because I support Xbox, primarily play on Xbox, and would be happy about better offerings for Xbox players like myself. I guess that makes me a villain, or the supporter of a villainous company. Sure. Probably even makes me an obvious dumbass, in you and almost everyone's opinion in this discussion. I'm okay with that though. I won't seek forgiveness; it's really not that serious to me. It's Xbox; it's not my life. I love gaming, but it's still just gaming. Microsoft isn't going to get a strange hold on the gaming industry by buying Activision; there's still too much strong competition out there. But, in any case, continue the good fight brother. Stop these evil corporations from ruining your fun, or crushing the small man, or, becoming a monopoly (they won't, not from this acquisition), or preventing gamers from having access to Activision/Blizzard games in the next 10-years, or whatever. Good luck.

An observation is a complaint? Why is everyone in this thread so sensitive? Anything...any opinion other than "this deal can't go through, and shouldn't go through, and is wrong" is automatically considered...complaining, or irrational, or...seriously?

Just scroll through the responses; it's pretty much 10 to 1, for those who want the deal to fall through; that's an echo chamber, is it not. It's practically a discussion filled with everyone, who has the same opinion or desire, stroking each other's backs in support, and high-fiving each other. And any person who doesn't share their opinion, in an open forum, is the bad guy or an idiot, or just some biased ignoramus or something. And me pointing that out is somehow unreasonable or petty or... Okay, sure.

Continue as y'all were; I was just passing through. It's my bad...it's obviously unwise to go where you're not welcomed. I'll leave y'all alone now, to get back to what y'all were doing.
Made 2 longass drawn out post for someone that doesn’t care if the deal fails, yet wants the deal to go thru.
 
Activision/Blizzard/King are one of the largest publishers in the industry because they have consolidated and consolidated. They have already massively disrupted the industry in a negative fashion, trimmed their output to a tiny handful of games that are ongoing MMO's or yearly iterative sequels. Not sure MS buying them could improve matters, but the current status quo is already bad for the industry.

And you think that's going to get better under MS?
 

Varteras

Member
Activision/Blizzard/King are one of the largest publishers in the industry because they have consolidated and consolidated. They have already massively disrupted the industry in a negative fashion, trimmed their output to a tiny handful of games that are ongoing MMO's or yearly iterative sequels. Not sure MS buying them could improve matters, but the current status quo is already bad for the industry.

I don't see how you improve that status quo by allowing them to be swallowed by an even larger entity who, itself, has already quickly bloated over the last 5 years. Including buying a major publisher just two years ago. Especially when it's unlikely, based on what we've seen, that anything would change at ABK. Not to mention, the reaction from other entities, like Sony and Tencent, who would see that as a greenlight to gobble up companies as well. Sony having already made an uncharacteristic move by buying Bungie. Probably the largest independent Western developer at the time.
 
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Three

Member
Wasn't he one of the Congressmen confirmed to be getting money from Microsoft?

EDIT: Yep.


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He comes out of the woodwork during important milestone dates to do MS' bidding:





Season 2 Lol GIF by Insecure on HBO


The fact that politicians who clearly don't have a clue what they are getting embroiled just makes this circus all the more entertaining.
 
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So, pretty much, this thread has evolved into an echo chamber of Sony supporters rooting against Microsoft.

Interesting. Let's see how this unfolds...
If you want to go to an echochamber where there are Microsoft supporters cheering the deal on, then head on over to ResetEra.

If Microsoft need ABK to compete with Sony; a company 10x smaller than them, then they don't deserve to be in this business to be honest.
 
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Nubulax

Member
If you want to go to an echochamber where there are Microsoft supporters cheering the deal on, then head on over to ResetEra.

If Microsoft need ABK to compete with Sony; a company 10x smaller than them, then they don't deserve to be in this business to be honest.
Especially since they had ALREADY acquired Minecraft when it was pretty popular already AND all of Zenimax
 

Elios83

Member

Here are four potential outcomes of the California hearing:
* Judge Jacqueline Scott Corley may grant the preliminary injunction and the companies terminate. In the past, most companies which lose at this point have scrapped the proposed deal.
* The judge may grant the preliminary injunction, the companies extend the deal deadline past July 18, and they take the fight to an FTC administrative law judge in August.
* Corley may refuse to grant the preliminary injunction and the FTC drops the fight. This happened most recently with Meta Platforms' purchase of VR content maker Within Unlimited. The FTC lost in federal court and dropped the internal FTC challenge.
* The judge may refuse to grant the preliminary injunction, and the agency fights on. That can be appealed to a federal appeals court. In any case, an administrative law judge at the FTC is scheduled to hear arguments about the deal in August.
If the case goes to Michael Chappell, an FTC judge, as scheduled in August, here are the potential outcomes:


* If Microsoft wins, the FTC staff can ask Chair Lina Khan and the commissioners, who voted to bring the case, to overturn the verdict. The next stop after that would be a federal appeals court. When Chappell ruled against the agency in Illumina's acquisition of Grail, Khan and commissioners overturned the decision and the case is now before an appeals court.
* If the FTC wins, the companies can also appeal to the commission to overturn the decision and, if needed, take the case to an appeals court.

Interesting recap article about the scenarios that might happen in the US.
 
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Interesting recap article about the scenarios that might happen in the US.

Was there a similar situation in the past with both the CMA and FTC blocking the deal?

I'm curious what will happen if Microsoft wins this but the CMA still blocks the deal.
 
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