GHG
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What's she trying to say?
Judging by those tweets it looks like she's not even sure what she's trying to say.
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What's she trying to say?
Judging by those tweets it looks like she's not even sure what she's trying to say.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
so you‘re saying the FTC’s concerns are on point and it would be best if the judge granted the injunction?
No, but they did push this injunction hearing early, so if the results aren't in their favor, MS should capitalize.
Venom Snake
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GHG
Gold Member
The only way they can capitalise and stay within the original legal framework of the acquisition is by using the outcome to persuade Activision to extend the deadline in order to conclude the CAT/CMA appeal.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I have said it before but I am so glad I didn't play any sports during todays 24/7 Social Media bonanza
Varteras
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Pretty much killing any chance they had to appeal the CMA and subjecting themselves to all sorts of penalties that could be incredibly damaging to the entire company just to boost Xbox, which is a small part of their business? Brilliant.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I don't think paying penalties would be a factor, there's already an ungodly amount of money on line.
Unknown Soldier
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Why did you cancel your GAF Gold?
HeisenbergFX4
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GHG
Gold Member
They have to go cold turkey and let someone else manage it for them.
Well that's what the sensible ones do anyway.
Speaking of which, hey Microsoft, fancy "managing" my Neogaf account?
Varteras
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Dude, the CMA could end up charging them $20 billion a year. That's not something you take lightly.
HeisenbergFX4
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I have seen Kevin Durant get into with people on Twitter and I am like, why?They have to go cold turkey and let someone else manage it for them.
Well that's what the sensible ones do anyway.
Speaking of which, hey Microsoft, fancy "managing" my Neogaf account?
he says the hate fuels him
jm89
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Do you really think those fines are gonna come off easy?
We are talking about the CMAs very existence here, MS basically ignoring them and getting off easy will set a path for other companies to ignore the CMA going forward.
UK regulation is basically dead.
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Varteras
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I didn't. It ran out just today. Haven't reupped.
GHG
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That surprises me. I'm a firm believer that if you're in sport you should save every bit of energy, both mental and physical, for when it matters on the pitch. Wasting some of that on social media trolls doesn't make sense to me, but hey, I'm not the professional.
DeepEnigma
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So pathetic. Like children.
Topher
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Ogbert
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When all is said and done, this is an exceedingly interesting case which boils down to one very basic question ‘just how valuable is Call of Duty’.
There has always been an assumption that as it can be categorised as a vertical acquisition, MS would obviously keep it on PlayStation for the revenue. Why buy a supplier and then stop it supplying?
But there’s the nagging suspicion that ABK is more than that, and unlike Bethesda, it occupies a horizontal position and feels more like a merger.
For what it’s worth, my hope is that the block fails and then MS try and close the deal without CMA approval. Because it will be FUCKING HILARIOUS when the shit hits the fan and fines start getting thrown around.
There has always been an assumption that as it can be categorised as a vertical acquisition, MS would obviously keep it on PlayStation for the revenue. Why buy a supplier and then stop it supplying?
But there’s the nagging suspicion that ABK is more than that, and unlike Bethesda, it occupies a horizontal position and feels more like a merger.
For what it’s worth, my hope is that the block fails and then MS try and close the deal without CMA approval. Because it will be FUCKING HILARIOUS when the shit hits the fan and fines start getting thrown around.
Unknown Soldier
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GHG
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It's all by design.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I don't have any realistic idea how much they'll charge but based on the latest thing on google, they fined 10 construction companies a total of 60 million GBP, and it doesn't seem like its a recurring fine.
Take a breakfeynoob . Ask for a 3, 6, year ban and get focused on what matters. We will be here waiting on you.
On page 8594 of this thread.
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Topher
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Varteras
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It can be. The CMA is also expected to be granted more power in the coming months. They also forced Meta to divest Giphy years after the deal closed. Which caused Meta to lose 87% of their $400 million purchase when they sold it off. Microsoft would be asking for a lot of trouble.
freefornow
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Varteras
Member
My Queen is the real slim shady.
Ya'll have such low standards. And if that's the case...
DeepEnigma
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My Queen is the real slim shady.
Topher
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Solidsnake_1
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its over boys ! people at Reeeee declared today an absolute win for microsoft and FTC has no case .
Mr Moose
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She faked the email? What a little scamp!
DeepEnigma
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The CMA still has it blocked.
ChorizoPicozo
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I quick dive to tweater....im being gaslighted in both directions....
DeepEnigma
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GHG
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Another one in this thread since the CMA block.
PaintTinJr
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And I would be expecting that $20b to be the least of their problems from that action if they go that route. Closing the deal without winning a CAT appeal and CMA walk back would be perceived as an attack on the entire UK legal system by Microsoft and would almost certainly get upgraded to a criminal matter with the full foot of the law right up their jacksie, with potential forced divestment of AI and Cloud businesses in the UK too just to cause such collateral damage to them as a business the mistake was branded on them for decades for no one else to consider it.
FrankWza
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It's not winning. Discussing flat earth while staring at kyrie is his fuel.
DeaDPo0L84
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That means Microsoft is screwed and will probably have to give Bethesda to Playstation as penance for their actions.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Folks should be un-thread-banned after a fixed time.*
* I don't know if he's thread-banned.
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Varteras
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Yeah. When even Meta appealed, won the appeal, still got told no, and agreed to divest, you know they weren't eager to fight the whole UK government over it. Especially since they already closed the deal behind the CMA's back. Not really a good idea to show contempt to the government of one of the most important economies in the world.
GHG
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He's not, he's the OP of the thread and this was his last post in the thread:
It's safe to assume he didn't take the news too well.
Topher
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Eh.....what the hell? I already said I think the FTC has a tough hill to climb, but how in the hell anyone says Microsoft came out of that unscathed, I have no idea. Matt Booty alone was a hell of a black eye for Microsoft.
He's not. He posted during the
SoloKingRobert
/Florian debacle.
Kittehkraken
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It would be easy to see that Microsoft came out on top today if you ignore the fact they got exposed for being habitual liars. Nothing else happened.
POKEYCLYDE
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Still a couple pages behind, haven't been glued to the circus today, too busy with errands and rewatching the Starfield direct.
That being said, the 80/20 revenue split for Call of Duty; It has been known that both Sony and Microsoft have a non-standard split agreement with Activision around the CoD franchise.
This does point to CoD being important to Playstation and Xbox. However, in other jurisdictions the console concern has been dropped, most likely because even in the event of CoD becoming exclusive to Xbox, the damage done to Sony/Playstation wouldn't be considering a significant lessening of competition or anti-competitive.
The emails talking about killing the competition are damning and could be used to call into question CoD remaining multi-platform. However, the FTC's standard of proof is high, and regardless I think Microsoft has covered that there wouldn't be major harm to Playstation in the event of CoD going exclusive.
The FTC should be focusing on cloud if they want to get anywhere.
That being said, the 80/20 revenue split for Call of Duty; It has been known that both Sony and Microsoft have a non-standard split agreement with Activision around the CoD franchise.
This does point to CoD being important to Playstation and Xbox. However, in other jurisdictions the console concern has been dropped, most likely because even in the event of CoD becoming exclusive to Xbox, the damage done to Sony/Playstation wouldn't be considering a significant lessening of competition or anti-competitive.
The emails talking about killing the competition are damning and could be used to call into question CoD remaining multi-platform. However, the FTC's standard of proof is high, and regardless I think Microsoft has covered that there wouldn't be major harm to Playstation in the event of CoD going exclusive.
The FTC should be focusing on cloud if they want to get anywhere.
ChorizoPicozo
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XesqueVara
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Exposing MS don´t means nothing if you can´t build a case against them.It would be easy to see that Microsoft came out on top today if you ignore the fact they got exposed for being habitual liars. Nothing else happened.
ManaByte
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Too busy playing FFXVI. Have fun fighting in here.
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