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[DeepEnigma]

Knew this is all the shills would focus on. Amazing how they also did in this very thread.

 

[Larvana]

The problem with these xbox executives is that they lie so much, especially in public. So much so that I don't even think they know what the real truth is anymore.

The problem is so does Playstation, it's called PR. Everyone does it so to speak, so stop acting like xbox is the only villain here.

Looks like we‘ve got another Florian alt, boys!

Microsoft got their shit punched in today. Booty and Hines got wrecked on examination, every single one of Microsoft’s public statements were exposed as lies by their internal emails and testimony by both Hines and Bond.

Anyone trying to spin this as a win for Microsoft lives in an alternate reality or is a paid shill. They absolutely got exposed on EVERY account as being anti-competitive with only one goal in mind: Shutting out everyone else.

Looks like we got someone in denial here, like most of you!
FTC didn't win anything today nor did they punch anyone to be exact, they made no point and messed up on numerous occasions.
So either we were listening to the same zoom or you just pulling it out your ass cause it's Microsoft involved.

 

[Darsxx82]

If the FTC wants to win, it needs a lot a lot more. Of course, discovering that Indiana Jones will be exclusive (even more so when the acquisition of Zenimax was approved without conditions) or that the agreement with Nvidia has standard and common clauses of rupture by both parties is not enough.

That said, there are 4 more days left and surely the evidence and reports against and in favor stronger. I just hope they are entertained like today. The statement of P. Spencer, Nadella and the recorded video of JIm Ryan should be the highlights

 

[ChiefDada]

Can anyone confirm that this really happened because Holy Shit.

It's standard practice to ask common knowledge questions to witnesses. This in no way suggests that the attorney didn't know who Nadella is. Im seeing a lot of similar mocking of the questions the lawyers are asking and I'm wondering if people really don't have a clue about the most basic aspects of trial law?

 

[Banjo64]

So he's ignoring everything else that happened today and is zoning in on Jimbo's internal email addressed to employees?

Just when you think he's peaked, he goes and outdoes himself.

Whilst Tom is vermin for spreading it, this came from Microsoft direct;

“Today showed Sony has known all along we’ll stand by our promise to keep games on its platform and made clear its work to lobby against the deal is only to protect its dominant position in the market,” says David Cuddy, general manager of public affairs at Microsoft, in a statement to The Verge.

 

[Topher]

You can't say that for certain at all.

It's just day one, nobody is winning.

The FTC's goal today was to show how untrustworthy MS is and they showed that but MS didn't reveal anything anti-competitive that would force the deal to get blocked

Nothing is "for certain". I'm not basing my opinion on one day. I've been saying this for months now. FTC has little to no teeth to stop this. It all depends on the CMA.

If I'm wrong then I'll be ecstatically wrong.

 

[MisterXDTV]

They are so disgusting

Remember, this is the same idiot who wrote this

 

[xHunter]

Jimbo living rent free in their heads

 

[Varteras]

They are so disgusting

So he's ignoring everything else that happened today and is zoning in on Jimbo's internal email addressed to employees?

Just when you think he's peaked, he goes and outdoes himself.

Knew this is all the shills would focus on. Amazing how they also did in this very thread.

And just like Destin and Ryan did when the CMA said no after they thought it was a slam dunk, they'll react like children who just got their toys taken away if the judge says no to the deal.

 

[NickFire]

Knew this is all the shills would focus on. Amazing how they also did in this very thread.

To be fair, what the F else could they focus on after that disaster?

Short of Jim being optimistic when addressing employees in one email, the rest of the day went pretty bad for everyone except the lady auditioning for Phil's job.

 

[tmlDan]

The problem is so does Playstation, it's called PR. Everyone does it so to speak, so stop acting like xbox is the only villain here.


Looks like we got someone in denial here, like most of you!
FTC didn't win anything today nor did they punch anyone to be exact, they made no point and messed up on numerous occasions.
So either we were listening to the same zoom or you just pulling it out your ass cause it's Microsoft involved.

It's unfair to say they didn't do anything, they showed that MS lied on exclusivity and were dishonest in their communication and that likely also bleeds into their 10-year contracts, and their promise to Sony. They also redacted (in the audio) another contract with Nvidia signed on the same day as the 10 year deal that was secret that could also look bad, we dunno.

Otherwise, yea, nothing super damning to the deal at all

 

[feynoob]

Have fun guys. Need to play some games.

 

[Topher]

If the FTC wants to win, it needs a lot a lot more. Of course, discovering that Indiana Jones will be exclusive (even more so when the acquisition of Zenimax was approved without conditions) or that the agreement with Nvidia has standard and common clauses of rupture by both parties is not enough.

That said, there are 4 more days left and surely the evidence and reports against and in favor stronger. I just hope they are entertained like today. The statement of P. Spencer, Nadella and the recorded video of JIm Ryan should be the highlights

I can't disagree. I'm against the acquisition but this is a damn tall hill for the FTC to climb. I don't think folks should get their hopes up here.

I'm here for the entertainment as well. This shit is fascinating.

 

[Banjo64]

Does Tom not want to highlight Booty’s ‘fuck every other cloud and subscription service’ email or what about ‘were building an impenetrable moat’?

 

[DeepEnigma]

I already answered your question.
It's not that hard to read.

Mergers: Commission clears acquisition of Activision Blizzard by Microsoft, subject to conditions

The European Commission has approved, under the EU Merger Regulation, the proposed acquisition of Activision Blizzard (‘Activision') by Microsoft.

ec.europa.eu

Thst is not the full detailed report as to how they reached and expect to enforce. They still have yet to release their full report.

 

[DarkBatman]

Whilst Tom is vermin for spreading it, this came from Microsoft direct;

“Today showed Sony has known all along we’ll stand by our promise to keep games on its platform and made clear its work to lobby against the deal is only to protect its dominant position in the market,” says David Cuddy, general manager of public affairs at Microsoft, in a statement to The Verge.

The problem is not that Tom spreads this news (or the quote from MS).

The problem is that he consciously decides not to pack the many negative MS revelations into a news post, but only to spread pro-MS messages.

 

[Topher]

Thst is not the full detailed report as to how they reached and expect to enforce. They still have yet to release their full report.

Is there going to be one? And what are they waiting on? Shady as fuck those guys

 

[Banjo64]

Thst is not the full detailed report as to how they reached and expect to enforce. They still have yet to release their full report.

A 4 page report was cited

 

[GHG]

The problem is so does Playstation, it's called PR. Everyone does it so to speak, so stop acting like xbox is the only villain here.

Fucks sake, another one.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and reply candidly.

As an organisation Xbox are in the press pretty much every day with some new soundbite, whether it's from Phil, Booty, Bond or Greenberg. They do this to compensate for pretty much everything else that's wrong with them as a division. In doing this they attempt to "win" the hearts and minds of gamers across the internet via what can only be defined as PR brainwashing. This can work well on the impressionable, vulnerable and marginalised, but to every other rational consumer, they will look at the purchasable products and notice it doesn't align with what's being said.

"everyone does it", or rather "SonyToo™", does not work in this instance because firstly their executives are not in the press anywhere near as much (many would argue they do too little on this front and accuse them of being silent) and secondly they don't have a 70 billion dollar acquisition in process which means every fucking word they say comes under factual scrutiny.

So nice try, but it's not going to wash.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

LMAO 30 pages in a few hours huh? Something important must have happened...

looks back a few pages

Oh. Right, back to sleep then. Let me know when the decision is made one way or the other I guess

 

[DeepEnigma]

Whilst Tom is vermin for spreading it, this came from Microsoft direct;

“Today showed Sony has known all along we’ll stand by our promise to keep games on its platform and made clear its work to lobby against the deal is only to protect its dominant position in the market,” says David Cuddy, general manager of public affairs at Microsoft, in a statement to The Verge.

They double down on their shit. It was just a "thought experiment" right, cunts?

 

[Darsxx82]

I can't disagree. I'm against the acquisition but this is a damn tall hill for the FTC to climb. I don't think folks should get their hopes up here.

I'm here for the entertainment as well. This shit is fascinating.

I'm embarrassed, as a gamer, to say it a little...... that, despite the hours, I found this hearing shorter than the Playstation and Xbox Showcase

 

[DeepEnigma]

Is there going to be one? And what are they waiting on? Shady as fuck those guys

Not holding my breath with EU corruption.

 

[hemo memo]

MORE than okay you say Jim? So all the crying about Cod exclusivity was theatrics I see.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I'm embarrassed, as a gamer, to say it a little...... that, despite the hours, I found this hearing shorter than the Playstation and Xbox Showcase

I found it more entertaining than both.

 

[XesqueVara]

Is there going to be one? And what are they waiting on? Shady as fuck those guys

Yeah, Full report always comes sometimes later tbh.

 

[Ogbert]

Nothing is "for certain". I'm not basing my opinion on one day. I've been saying this for months now. FTC has little to no teeth to stop this. It all depends on the CMA.

If I'm wrong then I'll be ecstatically wrong.

The fundamental problem with the FTC argument is that it’s quite a traditional, almost ‘vanilla’ competition claim. MS are obviously talking themselves down as much as possible, as Sony’s success makes the FTC position harder to maintain.

 

[bxrz]

It was a disaster for Microsoft because we are getting more and more insight into how they operate. Microsoft will win the hearing. I have no doubt about that. But all kinds of shit is getting exposed here.

Most people don't care about how Microsoft operates. Especially gamers. Microsoft just wants to win

 

[Topher]

Yeah, Full report always comes sometimes later tbh.

I find that incredibly lacking when compared to the US and UK.

 

[Nydius]

The problem is so does Playstation, it's called PR. Everyone does it so to speak, so stop acting like xbox is the only villain here.


Looks like we got someone in denial here, like most of you!
FTC didn't win anything today nor did they punch anyone to be exact, they made no point and messed up on numerous occasions.
So either we were listening to the same zoom or you just pulling it out your ass cause it's Microsoft involved.

Oh look, another lurker account that's been here for years but only posting recently.

How novel.
The rest of us have ears and heard exactly what transpired today.

Microsoft repeatedly had their shit punched in, their executives were made to look like a bunch of hypocrites and fools, and their public face got absolutely destroy with their internal emails.

The only person in denial here is you.
Crawl back to Reee, shill.

 

[adamsapple]

Whelp, fingers crossed for this to be resolved quickly and not dragged on any longer.

If the FTC wants to win, it needs a lot a lot more. Of course, discovering that Indiana Jones will be exclusive (even more so when the acquisition of Zenimax was approved without conditions) or that the agreement with Nvidia has standard and common clauses of rupture by both parties is not enough.

That said, there are 4 more days left and surely the evidence and reports against and in favor stronger. I just hope they are entertained like today. The statement of P. Spencer, Nadella and the recorded video of JIm Ryan should be the highlights

I agree, today's revelations were pretty spicy for both sides but nothing that could undermine the deal, IMO of course.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Whelp, fingers crossed for this to be resolved quickly and not dragged on any longer.

We have another 3 or 4 days of this shit. And then a trial.

 

[adamsapple]

We have another 3 or 4 days of this shit. And then a trial.

I have a strong sense that if the injunction is denied, MS will try to close it and take care of the trial as it happens. Even that will be closure in some sense.

 

[Ogbert]

What were the remedies? I ask this the second time since the only regulator that failed to disclose their full report, was the EC. So, people are repeating this. What are the remedies?

In short, for the EEA, MS has confirmed that any ABK game can be streamed to any cloud device.

 

[mckmas8808]

It was a disaster for Microsoft because we are getting more and more insight into how they operate. Microsoft will win the hearing. I have no doubt about that. But all kinds of shit is getting exposed here.

MS will win the hearing? You sure?

I like Benji, so I'm trying to understand something. She what? I personally think Sarah Bond is a pretty woman, so is this why some in the media are making her day in court look so good? Is it only about physical looks, because I'd hate to believe Benji is also on the MS payroll.

 

[Topher]

I have a strong sense that if the injunction is denied, MS will try to close it and take care of the trial as it happens. Even that will be closure in some sense.

 

[DeepEnigma]

In short, for the EEA, MS has confirmed that any ABK game can be streamed to any cloud device.

And we learned they have an opt-out clause for any reason. So how is the EU planning on levying?

They have yet to release they're full report, if they ever will.

 

[Topher]

MS will win the hearing? You sure?

I think MS will win and the injunction will be denied. lol....no, I am not sure.

 

[adamsapple]

She is, without a doubt, the leading candidate to succeed Phil whenever he retires/resigns.

 

[DarkBatman]

I have a strong sense that if the injunction is denied, MS will try to close it and take care of the trial as it happens. Even that will be closure in some sense.

But I thought that's not possible because the deal between MS and Activision called for FTC and CMA approval as a condition? Then how can they close the deal without a CMA approval without renegotiating the deal first?

 

[DeepEnigma]

She is, without a doubt, the leading candidate to succeed Phil whenever he retires/resigns.

Oh, we could tell.

 

[adamsapple]

Oh, we could tell.

I might need a tag change if/when that happens. Suggestions welcome

 

[Dick Jones]

I might need a tag change if/when that happens. Suggestions welcome

Both of Phil's balls in your throat?

 

[XesqueVara]

When MS turn starts in this Shitshow? For what i've read somewhere it's FTC turn now.

 

[Topher]

I might need a tag change if/when that happens. Suggestions welcome

Sarah's a dude?

 

[freefornow]

I'm mindblown how that is not considered a conflict of interest.

Judge declared this to everyone in the court. If the FTC had an issue, their lawyers could/would have objected?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Sarah's a dude?

In current year, you can be whatever you want to be.

 

[balls of snow]

Soo how many days of ms getting grilled like seasoned lamb chops can we expect here.

 

[adamsapple]

Sarah's a dude?

no, i hope not lol

something more appropriate.

 

[Varteras]

Judge declared this to everyone in the court. If the FTC had an issue, their lawyers could/would have objected?

I would just think that would automatically call for a change, regardless of how the two sides felt.