Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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Topher
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Do you understand? This is a process operating within the law.
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thismeinteil
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As some have stated before, they'll probably use that to their advantage to appeal if the injunction isn't granted. Pretty big conflict of interest when your son works for the same company you'd need to rule against. You had the judge interrupting the FTC lawyer when he was trying to pin Phil down on COD exclusivity.
Rubim
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I don't know what people are seeing because to me, MICROSOFT was embarrassing the FTC and their fake nice guy BS. Microsoft is winning this case in a landslide.
Weird right?
FoxMcChief
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Avatar checks out.
Bulletbrain
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Is this...real?
In Cold Blood
Banned
The FTC is coming off pretty badly. I cannot see this judge granting them their order.
bender
What time is it?
tryDEATH
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The Indiana Jones game was the gacha that the FTC wanted to show as one of the cases of deception, but Phil explained that they guaranteed titles with existing communities would keep their games and the reason for Indian Jones not coming to PS was due to it not being an existing community and the fact that they had to renegotiate with Disney to put the game on GamePass and in the process for one reason or there other which we don't know PS was removed. You're right that they didn't explain how the financials worked or why the PS was taken out of the agreement and that's a mistake the FTC lawyer made not getting actual concrete information to fully support his argument and trap him.
He was able to probe Phil on multiple occasions until Phil stonewalled him and the lawyer got stuck and had to move on. The burden of proof lies with the FTC to prove that MS will go the exclusive way due to their past actions, which he clearly wasn't able to establish irrefutably since they want to block it so they have to prove it.
It also didn't help that the Judge presented Phil with the easiest of lay ups to swear under oath that PS would get CoD, indicating she wanted assurance from him and that everything the FTC lawyer tried to put Phil's credibility under scrutiny was simply wiped away.
Dolomite
Member
Yeah lmfao
Folks from the hearing live tweeting from the courtroom so it's likely paraphrased
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
That will have more to do with the Microsoft recently employing the judge's son than the arguments being presented by both sides.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
the judge is the father of an MS employee. he aint ruling against his son getting him fired.
gothmog
Gold Member
If that's a concern it's an easy mistrial.
dibella360
Banned
I can't believe I have the opportunity to say this... did you just assume the judge's gender?
X-Wing
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That’s confirmation bias. I also don’t want the deal to go through but the FTC hasn’t made or shown anything that even I, who am against the deal, would says “there is your evidence”, so why would the judge.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Reeeeeeeeeeeee!I can't believe I have the opportunity to say this... did you just assume the judge's gender?
mansoor1980
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In Cold Blood
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I mean, you can think that if you want, but the quality of the FTC lawyers is seriously lacking, and it shows.
Banjo64
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Spencer is definitely top notch. His gamer persona is starting to remind me of Boris Johnson’s alleged ‘pleb’ persona. As I said yesterday, this all would have been his pitch/brain child from the beginning. It was nice to see behind the curtain in to MS operations yesterday. He definitely held his own in questioning and knew what not to say. When his email came up saying ‘I know, but we can’t’ (likely in response to wanting to announce major Zenimax exclusives) he was quick to answer ‘I said we can’t because it’s not possible’ when in reality he actually meant we can’t yet because of political reasons.
I’m amazed he’s not changed the team below him, even giving Bonny Ross years longer than she deserves. But even great business men can allow loyalty to get in the way. I don’t doubt that he is a nice guy, as all of his subordinates genuinely seem to like him. That lady looking at him from behind yesterday looked like she was in love (not sure if she’s MS or legal).
Shame he’s at Microsoft to be honest.
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I want some of what you take too
Sony
Nintendo
Have we been listening to the same trial?
- FTC's own witness confirmed that cloud competes with consoles, thus not being a separate market
- The judge made Spencer confirm under oath Cod will be coming to Playstation, throwing the console SLC out the window.
The trial is going horribly for FTC.
Friday is the verdict.
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Dick Jones
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Have you been listening to the same trial?
Sony
Nintendo
Do you seriously claim that didn't happen?
Ar¢tos
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Oh look, another 6 year old account with only 16 posts that woke up from hibernation YESTERDAY solely to post on the ATK merger thread...
Can't you people be a little less obvious?
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Heisenberg007
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Well they could build up their profile a bit by posting in other threads for a few months first, but ...
T0minator
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So now if the deal passes or gets denied CoD is still on Playstation no matter what?
Has there been in mention of all the other IP Activision has?
Silent Viper
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Dick Jones
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If that's your only takeaway from the two days, you are fucking dense as fuck. A lot of shit happened and your take away is hey guys, we got two hits in 2 rounds. Goooooo $ocks!!!
Sony
Nintendo
CoD will remain on PlayStation if the deal passes.
No similar statement was made for all other ABK IP's because (a) it's not part of the SLC concern and (b) not all ABK IP's are currently on PlayStation so you can't promise they will be in the future.
Sony
Nintendo
It's two of the most important hits to have as they directly refute the FTC's grounds for blocking. If you don't understand how damning this is for FTC you might as well not follow the case.
But feel free to summarize all the shit that happened in the last two days that helps FTC's case, go ahead.
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supernova8
Banned
Is it just me or is practically everyone on Twitter sucking Microsoft's dick with regard to this deal? It seems strangely one-sided or maybe my Twitter feed is just messed up? It just seems to be a flood of pro-Xbox narrative that almost looks.... sponsored?
Dick Jones
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It's in this thread. Start with the Booty testimony and read on. I agree the Google executive was useless but the Spencer promise was exposed later as the same value as his "this is the best year for Xbox in E3
Sony
Nintendo
Lol you have no idea what you're talking about and you can't even give me concrete points in favor of FTC.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Not necessarily
As long as Phil Spencer is in charge, it will (under oath). Doesn’t mean his successor is bound to the same oath
MS is unwilling to sign a perpetual contract. Says it all really. “10 years is plenty”
No evidence to suggest they won’t foreclose eventually with CoD, every single one of their other acquisitions has been
Kiraly
Member
Looks like the new narrative/marching orders is set.
Dick Jones
Banned
Was two points all your Ambassador programme could manage for you in two days? Pathetic
Rubim
Member
Like me, he's a sleeper agent.
In all seriousness, it's a funny thread with some wild takes.
What do you mean? if by any chance you mean that I'm an alt , no I'm not and the mods I'm sure they already checked, so cut it with the nonsense and the witch hunting that some here, when things don't go their way, look like they are world champions. I would like also to point out that there is a pool at the top that sees an overwhelming majority and user voters think that this deal will end up in favor of Ms in the end.....the problem here isn't me at most it's that minority that is against is just too loud and doesn't accept adversarial.
Sony
Nintendo
1. FTC is the plaintiff, the burden of proof is on them for arguments to justify the blocking of the merger. So yeah, it's indeed pathetic that they haven't brought up any points to support their case.
2. It's not 'just two points'. Again, it's two of the most important points you can make as they directly refute FTC.
So I stand by what I said, you have no clue what you're talking about.
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Ronin_7
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Other Activision IPs are so irrelevant it doesn't really matter.
It's a CoD machine basically + Blizzard which makes One good game each decade.
Dick Jones
Banned
I bet it feels awful being in a hovering position until you are given more points to use?
Basically is what happened in tribunal. And in sure every lawyer already know this
Dick Jones
Banned
If you want to chat, you can tell me first which poster's alt are you. Otherwise, kindly jog on.
ShadowkillXNA
Member
I mean, you can think that if you want, but the quality of the Microsoft lawyers is seriously lacking, and it shows.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
lulu must be fuming right now , also twitter.........................
lol
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jm89
Member
Huh? They can compete for customers and still be a seperate market. I mean cloud gaming is in its infancy they aren't getting customers out of thin air, and obviously will want to entice customers from existing markets like console.
Besides multiple regulators called it a market, EC, Korea and the CMA.
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Dick Jones
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Is the empathy emoji the new triggered emoji here? Go back and show empathy to every post I have please.
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Another hunter ? read a few posts above this one .
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