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Just pull your moeny out of 401k or wtf program and invest in S&P500 Index. If I can do it outside of US, can't American do the same? Or are they that financially illiterate?
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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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Vox Machina
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No you can do an IRA Conversion, which is essentially just that, but most people don't do that because they've been trained that, overall, equities only go up
Historia
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You would rather see equities goes up a little than watching your bag sitting statically until it is worthless years of inflation.
splattered
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The acquisition doesn't really bother me so sure, consistent.
POKEYCLYDE
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We haven't jumped 50 pages, PI news hasn't dropped yet I see.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Can this decision be made at any time of the day, or is it restricted to specific hours like between 9:00 AM and 4:00 PM?
solidus12
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
That might not be such a great thing. Would much rather prefer if the industry could self-regulate, but that'd require a certain company to not be so greedy to buy up big publishers or have some fetish to run one of the other platform holders out of business.
Needless to say everyone would have to play ball WRT M&As, and one platform holder in particular would probably not want to. Pretty easy to guess which one.
Welp...
Vox Machina
Banned
Regulatory oversight was going to happen one way or another. There was only so long the biggest entertainment industry could sneak under the radar.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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I get that, but we've already kinda been here before, in the early '90s. Though that time it was about video game violence, though a $20 billion industry was still a nice target for potential overzealous regulation.
Thankfully, all the big players at the time (sans Nintendo) came together to form the ESRB. I figure for M&As, it would be a lot tougher because you're asking companies to show some self-restraint in terms of fattening their own pockets and revenue streams. Self-regulating the money in that respect is probably a lot harder than self-regulating the content for age-appropriate customers.
Nydius
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Grow up, that goes for everyone projecting a narrative that doesn't exist. Stop gaslighting and engage in good faith.
I'm starting to hope Microsoft wins and then they give a big middle finger to the UK and close the deal over the CMA for no other reason than to watch this place melt down.
I'm going to be too busy these next few weeks being poked and prodded by doctors to care either way, unfortunately.
I'm going to be too busy these next few weeks being poked and prodded by doctors to care either way, unfortunately.
Varteras
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I'm starting to hope Microsoft wins and then they give a big middle finger to the UK and close the deal over the CMA for no other reason than to watch this place melt down.
I'm going to be too busy these next few weeks being poked and prodded by doctors to care either way, unfortunately.
Finally getting that lobotomy?
Seriously though. Hope everything is good.
Bernardougf
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Oh look.. one more meltdown beggarI'm starting to hope Microsoft wins and then they give a big middle finger to the UK and close the deal over the CMA for no other reason than to watch this place melt down.
I'm going to be too busy these next few weeks being poked and prodded by doctors to care either way, unfortunately.
Ass of Can Whooping
bitbydeath
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Wishful thinking, they're hoping it happens before the acquisition renewal date comes up.
Future Narrator: It didn't.
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ChiefDada
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I'm starting to hope Microsoft wins and then they give a big middle finger to the UK and close the deal over the CMA for no other reason than to watch this place melt down.
I'm going to be too busy these next few weeks being poked and prodded by doctors to care either way, unfortunately.
Wish you all the best.
demigod
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Omg is
MiyazakiLoVesKojima
back?!?
MiyazakiLoVesKojima
back?!?
MiyazakiLoVesKojima
Banned
Omg is
ChorizoPicozo
Member
...yet
X-Wing
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I think it comes on Wednesday. Microsoft loses and fulfills the prophecy of buying Sega on a Wednesday.
BoxFresh123
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Honestly do they clowns expect the verdict to be released only a less than a week after all finding papers get submitted
Varteras
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You're beautiful
The Pleasure
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You doin it for the BUSSY?I'm starting to hope Microsoft wins and then they give a big middle finger to the UK and close the deal over the CMA for no other reason than to watch this place melt down.
I'm going to be too busy these next few weeks being poked and prodded by doctors to care either way, unfortunately.
ToadMan
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Tempoary injunction goes away after 5 business days when the PI is denied.ToadMan , @Heisenberg007 or @GHG can correct me on this if I am wrong.
Both FTC and MS would at least get two weeks for appeals.
Yes the Temporary Restraining Order says this :
Microsoft and Activision shall not close or consummate their proposed transaction or a substantially similar transaction until after 11:59 p.m. Pacific Time on the fifth business day after the Court rules on the FTC's request for a preliminary injunction under Federal Trade Commission Act § 13(b), 15 U.S.C. § 53(b), or a date set by the Court, whichever is later;
Now this wording is a little vague about when the clock on the 5 business days starts.
It just says 5th business day after the court rules. Let's say the court rules today - 11th July - when is the 5th business day after that? The 17th July or 18th? If it's the latter then we are already at the point MS and ATVI need to extend their contract.
Also note the very last few words "or a
date set by the court, whichever is later".
So with the ruling can come a longer period where the acquisition cannot be closed if the Judge feels that additional time is required for the FTC to consider an appeal.
Bobby - will he, won't he?
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Oddvintagechap
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why would this eliminate cheaters?
havoc00
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Because MS might actually go back to the old games and implement anti cheat and clean them up would be a big win for gamepass
MasterCornholio
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That doesn't make any sense.
havoc00
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There was a huge demand for the older games to be BC the most voted BC games actually, people stopped playing because of cheaters and hackers, deliver those games on gp free of hackers and maybe a resolution bump and thats a huge value to gamepass.
Varteras
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Yes the Temporary Restraining Order says this :
Microsoft and Activision shall not close or consummate their proposed transaction or a substantially similar transaction until after 11:59 p.m. Pacific Time on the fifth business day after the Court rules on the FTC's request for a preliminary injunction under Federal Trade Commission Act § 13(b), 15 U.S.C. § 53(b), or a date set by the Court, whichever is later;
Now this wording is a little vague about when the clock on the 5 business days starts.
It just says 5th business day after the court rules. Let's say the court rules today - 11th July - when is the 5th business day after that? The 17th July or 18th? If it's the latter then we are already at the point MS and ATVI need to extend their contract.
Also note the very last few words "or a
date set by the court, whichever is later".
So with the ruling can come a longer period where the acquisition cannot be closed if the Judge feels that additional time is required for the FTC to consider an appeal.
Bobby - will he, won't he?
There is something else I've been curious about and hopefully you can clarify it for me. The deal deadline is the 18th. Does the deal terminate right on the 18th or is it at the end of that day? In other words, does the deal terminate at 12am on the 18th or is it 12am on the 19th? Or is there some specified time on the 18th, say 5pm?
MasterCornholio
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You know that's impossible right?
havoc00
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How is that impossible? They cant put an anti cheat in or take the theatre mode out? Even if it took a small dedicated team to do so? Or even give the classic few games a mcc type treatment and throw it on gp?
MasterCornholio
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Well it's like DRM. People always find away around it. Thinking that Microsoft can make it impossible for cheaters is just wishful thinking.
Alex Scott
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If the decision comes in mail then the judge could have ruled on the 10th and sent the mail but the mail could arrive one or two day later.Yes the Temporary Restraining Order says this :
Microsoft and Activision shall not close or consummate their proposed transaction or a substantially similar transaction until after 11:59 p.m. Pacific Time on the fifth business day after the Court rules on the FTC's request for a preliminary injunction under Federal Trade Commission Act § 13(b), 15 U.S.C. § 53(b), or a date set by the Court, whichever is later;
Now this wording is a little vague about when the clock on the 5 business days starts.
It just says 5th business day after the court rules. Let's say the court rules today - 11th July - when is the 5th business day after that? The 17th July or 18th? If it's the latter then we are already at the point MS and ATVI need to extend their contract.
Also note the very last few words "or a
date set by the court, whichever is later".
So with the ruling can come a longer period where the acquisition cannot be closed if the Judge feels that additional time is required for the FTC to consider an appeal.
Bobby - will he, won't he?
Idk if that makes sense or not.
Also I think it is the latter. If judge makes the decision on the 11th then MS can't close by the 18th. Countdown starts the day after the judge's rule so it will start on Wednesday.
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Ar¢tos
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So much delusional hypothetical and wishful thinking of what MS MIGHT do, when the reality of what they will really do is very clear...
havoc00
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No game is immune from cheaters but the cheats that are in bo2 and mw3 could be eliminated im talking full hacked lobbies, mw2 2022 has cheaters but not hacked lobbies like the older games
MasterCornholio
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Then why even say Microsoft can make it impossible in the first place?
havoc00
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It would take the bare minimum to do and would make gamepass a even better sell esp with the price increase, you underestimate how many people would kill for cleaner versions of those classic games, Plutonium was created just for that and is still popular and is risky to download and hoops to jump through and people still do
nial
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Spot on, the number of Xbox warriors I've encountered on social media pretending to like the PS of the past is pretty hilarious.
havoc00
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They would make the older games playable atleast, not charge 50 bucks for a fully hacked bo2 like acti does now.
ToadMan
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I don't think the decision will be today either.
The parties are still submitting requests to redact evidentiary documents at this stage.
Producing a verdict this quickly was always going to be an exceptionally fast outcome - but I'm beginning to feel reality is settling in and we have a week or more still to wait.
The reason yesterday and today were critical is because the original restraining order has a 5 business day period following judgement where MS cannot close the acquisition. So to get anything done by the 18th (nominal end of the acquisition contract) the decision was required now, and some people thought the Judge would rush the decision for that deadline.
ryzen1
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I hope this deal goes through, so MS can finally solve world hunger
havoc00
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why wouldn't they clean the older games up put them on gp and push packs cosmetics etc..? easy to appeal to a lot of people who want to play the classic games without the rampant cheating, sell more packs, give more value to gp? Appease people who want crash like games or spyro put them on gp. I own both systems but this would be a huge W for gamepass and xbox owners.
Dick Jones
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If the deal goes through, MS puts COD on Gamepass and wins a Miss America Pageant in the same year. How could you not root for the trillion dollar underdog?
ToadMan
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I can't copy paste from the PDF - here's a screen cap 11.59pm on the 18th July.
But… these are reasons to terminate the acquisition deal. It's not automatic, its a choice for either side to take. We could find nothing happens. There could be no judgement on the PI, the 18th rolls past there's no deal extension announcement, and the acquisition is still in progress.
It's up to MS or (more likely) ATVI to choose to terminate the arrangement. If they do, we will see fireworks
but the way this has become tedious, I can see basically nothing happening until the UK finally kills it next year or something.
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Ar¢tos
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Apparently they are going to :
- Revive old Activision IPs (King's Quest obviously sold millions and millions of copies)
- form a kumbaya chain between Bethesda, Activision and MS Studios to share tech and speed up game development
- add old games filled with cheaters to GP, because GP is a natural anti cheater field
- by the single act of acquiring ATK, they are going to completely revive the industry and be able to produce more content than ever at a much faster pace, no more 5-7 development (hell) periods, the magic of GP will end those.
Apparently GP is like a crystal in a Final Fantasy game and nobody realized it before...
I'm sure I read more delusional things here, we have to start listing them.
"a lot people" =/= enough people to make the idea profitable at game renting prices.
The same reason many Japanese devs skip Xbox.
A lot of Xbox players would like to play the games, but there aren't enough of them to make it profitable.
ToadMan
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All those super-fans of these games who haven't already bought them for pennies over the years?
Yeah… sure.
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