Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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Vox Machina said:
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I can provide the source via DM, if necessary. Dunno if the site is a banned source (I'm aware of the history).
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Bobby is staying.
 
aliadiere25 said:
It isn't just the price increase in a monthly subscription, it's also bad due to certain companies monopolizing other companies and eventually making games exclusive to their platform which weren't exclusive before. You either have to spend way more money to play a certain franchise that you love.... or you don't.

Regardless, it's a number of things. This isn't a good thing.
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It's not just destructive to services but it's also going to be destructive to developers, A smaller studio to Activision was more important than a smaller studio just using money at MS.

when all these 3rd party publishers are consolidated they are just going to pick and choose who and what they keep, they can't balloon into millions of employees.

how many devs are gonna lose their jobs by this acquisition alone.
 
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Now, we know MS has promised to put COD everywhere, and I do believe they intend to ship COD to as many platforms as possible as similar to Minecraft that will help them recoup the investment faster. That said, Sony talked numerous times about fearing a lesser version of COD being made for them and how MS/Xbox could do so on purpose, etc... (paraphrasing so its the gist of what they have openly said). However, they have also said they will not give Activision future dev kits for say the PS6 and they actually have not signed any deal with MS to date for COD. Is this not opening the door for Playstation to get the inferior versions just by virtue of their own actions?
 
Now that it's pretty much a done deal, does MSFT have to honor any previous offers like the 10-year COD deal with Sony? Or could they just make everything exclusive as soon as they sign the papers?
 
Varteras said:
No chance. Guarantee you Kottick runs Xbox sometime next gen.
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To be honest, this would be ok with me.

Yeah Kotick may be a douche, but if all we care about is free games on a sub, then I don't see why I have to care about Kotick's behavior with his staff - I don't work there.

I think he may well be someone who can make Xbox a desirable gaming brand again. Whether that includes custom hardware/consoles is debatable, but I think he'd make the content side a powerhouse given the resource available.
 
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How many of all the IP's that Activision owns have they made games for recently? Very few so hopefully MSFT will be able to restart some of these dead franchises which is a big plus for gamers.
 
The bright side about this acquisition is that Activision management will inevitably change for the better because it cannot be worse.
 
Dlacy13g said:
Now, we know MS has promised to put COD everywhere, and I do believe they intend to ship COD to as many platforms as possible as similar to Minecraft that will help them recoup the investment faster. That said, Sony talked numerous times about fearing a lesser version of COD being made for them and how MS/Xbox could do so on purpose, etc... (paraphrasing so its the gist of what they have openly said). However, they have also said they will not give Activision future dev kits for say the PS6 and they actually have not signed any deal with MS to date for COD. Is this not opening the door for Playstation to get the inferior versions just by virtue of their own actions?
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It is absolutely bonkers that people are still saying the bolded part when it was revealed during the hearing that Phil Spencer tried everything he could to remove Minecraft from Playstation and it's only multiplatform because Mojang's agreement with Notch
 
Dlacy13g said:
Now, we know MS has promised to put COD everywhere, and I do believe they intend to ship COD to as many platforms as possible as similar to Minecraft that will help them recoup the investment faster. That said, Sony talked numerous times about fearing a lesser version of COD being made for them and how MS/Xbox could do so on purpose, etc... (paraphrasing so its the gist of what they have openly said). However, they have also said they will not give Activision future dev kits for say the PS6 and they actually have not signed any deal with MS to date for COD. Is this not opening the door for Playstation to get the inferior versions just by virtue of their own actions?
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Yeah it's one of the many reasons MS shouldn't be allowed to buy these major publishers. Sony is put in a difficult situation, where it doesn't really make sense to risk giving its private hardware/software secrets to its biggest competitor. Of course MS is free to keep making ps5 games, but i think it's pretty clear as with other MS acquisitions, that they want these games to be exclusive.
 
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GHG said:
While you're still here, allow me to introduce you to the truth:


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Sorry having impartial and rational discussions throughout the process has hurt you, it's just a shame you're too much of a coward to post on your main account.
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I thought there'd be structural changes but this has been a roller coaster, the only result that was never really in play was no changes
 
GHG said:
While you're still here, allow me to introduce you to the truth:


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Sorry having impartial and rational discussions throughout the process has hurt you, it's just a shame you're too much of a coward to post on your main account.
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GHG said:
My belief is that they are now far too embroiled in woke culture as an organisation to ever let that happen, even if it would be obvious and necessary.

Long live Phil.
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You could well be right - if so, MS will screw up for themselves. Just remains to be seen if other companies can cling on while they wait for the implosion and sell off.
 
hollams said:
How many of all the IP's that Activision owns have they made games for recently? Very few so hopefully MSFT will be able to restart some of these dead franchises which is a big plus for gamers.
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yes because Microsoft has been great about that with the IPs they already own
 
Still super curious WTF will come out of the CMA negotiations.

Just behavioral remedies or structural?

From what I understand MS has basically already said structural are off the table from the start.
 
The CMA are pussies and Microsoft are just going to buy most of the top 3rd party studios/publishers instead of making their own fucking games.Sony are fucked
 
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Salty Popsicle said:
343 had rampant sexual abuse going on behind closed doors and a boss who turned a blind eye? Please do tell.
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Bobby Kotick claims none of that actually was a real management problem

343 just doesn't know how to turn out quality timely content the halo brand deserves.

I don't see management making better games under MS than as an independent Activision
 
graywolf323 said:
probably, given redactions were already made it seems likely the judge alerted them last week meaning she made this decision in roughly a week even with there being a holiday last week, it's insane how quick she did this since this is only the 7th business day after closing arguments? someone else said these decisions usually take months and she maybe took a week for the biggest one ever
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Actually in the conclusion she even says there may be errors in the legal citations due to the quick turnaround...

I thought Judges were supposed to work on avoiding that kind of thing. Apparently not.

It's the judicial version of crunch - a few bugs slipped through, she'll get those in a patch. Perhaps she learned from her Son...
 
IntentionalPun said:
Still super curious WTF will come out of the CMA negotiations.

Just behavioral remedies or structural?

From what I understand MS has basically already said structural are off the table from the start.
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Maybe MS changed their mind? People keep thinking that CMA agreeing to negotiate is them giving up and I'm just not so sure about that. Doesn't look good I'll admit but it didn't look good when they dropped the console SLC either.
 
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wolffy66 said:
They aren't even remotely close to being a monopoly so that's a weak argument. Things have to be based in reality to work in court.
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Yeah combined revenue wise MS still hasn't caught up to Playstation as a whole.

And a decent chunk of that is mobile.

If you ignore mobile, Playstation is still like... 50% bigger revenue wise?

This is all off the top of my head math from numbers I haven't looked at in ages though lol
 
now all Microsoft needs to do is completely rework their management style if they want to actually come out on top


Otherwise this 80 billion will go to waste when your dropping garbage like halo infinite & redfall

Actually it's funny that Microsoft will spend 80 billion on activision but won't give developers like redfall extra time to make their games

Just some of the worst oversight, management, and overall general incompetence going on at Microsoft

Now if they rework their entire system then it's a different story
 
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