Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?


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This is a business and money talks.
It's a contract. There should be no hard feelings if the shareholders decide the offer isn't to their liking after the 18th

This is MS we are talking about.

Their internal emails revealed the personalities there.

Right now they are working hard to get this over the line. MS want and perhaps even need this deal - they are going above and beyond to get it.

To watch that all come to nothing because ATVI chased more dollars juat as the game was in the final throes would really agitate MS. I mean really agitate them.

Their reputation wouldn't be damaged either - again, they have no obligation to stay after the 18th

ATVI's rep would certainly be damaged. Look at the shit thrown at Sony for opposing this deal and ultimately concerns about Sony have been dismissed.

Imagine what would be said about ATVI if at the moment when the final obstacles were crumbling and the deal was going to be approved, ATVI chased money and pulled out. 100% of the blame for it failing lands with them - not regulators, or judges or Sony or anyone else. Just ATVI.

There would be a shit storm of negativity thrown their way by "that" section of the gaming fanbase.

All of the MS funded and/or lubed media would be constantly digging and picking away at ATVI. I mean the headlines would be epic - backstabbed and double crossed. Poor MS trying to bring cheap AAA games to gamers while evil Bobby snatched them back. Its bullshit but it's comforting bullshit. Peddle it enough and people believe.

That may be offset by people who don't want to see these kind of acquisitions go through but actually even they'd be losing out. This acquisition wouldn't have been stopped by regulators out of principle, just stopped by greed. The next acquisition would go unchallenged.
 
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So summary?
I got that the judge wants further evidence to grant the delay of *potential* the appeal.
In any case it doesn't seem like CMA is ready for their new verdict and this won't get solved before tomorrow.
Is Microsoft paying the 3b to Activision anyway?
Bobby after the 18th comes
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lmaoo some people think ABK might walk away? Copium. Merger will happen. Just deal with it.
While I think you're correct I wouldn't discount it entirely as we haven't heard of any extension to the merger. Would have thought some sort of leak about that would have emerged. Maybe Microsoft are closing the deal tomorrow and that's why, we'll see soon enough.
 
So because EA has a concerningly high P/E... you think ATVI should sell for more?

lol

You can't just look at P/E like that. Way too many factors.

It's close enough, these are two very similar companies and in the same industry. Valuations are generally similar

Just look at most big tech or big oil as proof
 
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Not likely given EA's valuation

5-10% correction at most
And I wouldn't be surprised if ABK used the $3 billion to do a stock buy back, boosting share price further. Smart money will buy back-in after the small correction since ABKs output seems really strong in the near future. Retail investors panic selling won't move the price that much.

There is nothing to gain from ATVI shareholders right now by this deal closing other than their assets getting liquidated - and that not even at a proper premium - and forfeiting future gains. As a shareholder, I would take the $3 billion, do a stock buy-back, boost share prices, do some PR and media work to have a "deal with the market leader" again, announce support for the future Switch, wait for the share price to smoothly increase to $104 ATH again and go further, while slurping margaritas.
 
While I think you're correct I wouldn't discount it entirely as we haven't heard of any extension to the merger. Would have thought some sort of leak about that would have emerged. Maybe Microsoft are closing the deal tomorrow and that's why, we'll see soon enough.
either a close or a extension. I don't think they mentioned closing while investigating at the CAT? So probably an extension.
 
All this talk about how much activision's stock will fall on the slim chance the deal fails to go through.

There are massive put walls in the low-mid 80's for the expirations running all the way through to the end of the year. It's not going through those unless something comes out that is unrelated to the merger falling through.

So can it fall? Yes, and the initial reaction most likely would be a sell-off of some sort.

Will it fall by a significant amount? Highly unlikely.
 
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And they can go on their brokerage account and liquidate themselves. No need for MS to buy them

The deal was attractive when ATVI traded in the 50s

It's fair market value is much higher than that today

That's exactly what they would do, and you know what happens when the available shares start to pile up.
 
August then. This never ends.

Well, at least I can clean my head of all this stuff as it's for sure going to happen. Now time will do it's work.

Take it from me. Never assume you know the outcome. This has been a fucking roller coaster in the dark. Everytime you think it's about to go one way, or the end is near, WHOOOOOOSH! Off in another direction for more ride.
 
That's exactly what they would do, and you know what happens when the available shares start to pile up.

None of them would immediately dump their stock on the market.

This is a massively liquid company. The entirety of the shareholders were not looking to simultaneously sell out at the same time…unless MS was paying them a 50% premium to do so
 
technicality they don't, but to avoid trickery, its better to make a extension.
MS gave Bobby a pretty sweet setup, I think they did that because they know he's a snake. I think he personally will be better with this deal so he won't push any idea of walking.
 


This just popped up on my feed. I wonder if there will be more layoffs from redundancies on this deal, or if some of these layoffs are happening in preparation for it.
 
While I think you're correct I wouldn't discount it entirely as we haven't heard of any extension to the merger. Would have thought some sort of leak about that would have emerged. Maybe Microsoft are closing the deal tomorrow and that's why, we'll see soon enough.

Why would they leak an extension when the expiration date was one of the tools they were using to guide the proceedings toward the end result they wanted? "Time is of the essence" was certainly the sales pitch of the day today.
 
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Microsoft-Activision Deal Poised to Close Later Than Planned

  • UK veto will prevent closing by July 18 deadline in agreement
  • Companies don't intend to walk away, will continue UK talks

 
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Do they even need an extension, honestly asking.
For Microsoft's position, an extension provides peace of mind.

For Activision, having no extension might actually enhance their options here (need a lawyer to pitch in here pls), they can cut and run at any moment for 3bn or they can stay the course for 69bn.
 

Microsoft-Activision Deal Poised to Close Later Than Planned

  • UK veto will prevent closing by July 18 deadline in agreement
  • Companies don't intend to walk away, will continue UK talks

Whoever was saying that MS will absolutely close over the UK is a real clown.

MS has so much fear of a permanent UK block/divestment order that they're trying basically anything to get the deal through with "legal" and "friendly" means.
 
For Microsoft's position, an extension provides peace of mind.

For Activision, having no extension might actually enhance their options here (need a lawyer to pitch in here pls), they can cut and run at any moment for 3bn or they can stay the course for 69bn.
I just don't think Bobby cares about the $3B on a personal level. He makes out better joining MS. They could do an extension though if they are worried about Apple or Amazon coming in with a better offer but that's super unlikely.
 


This just popped up on my feed. I wonder if there will be more layoffs from redundancies on this deal, or if some of these layoffs are happening in preparation for it.

Redundancies happen. Also, it may not even involve it.

Since I left old company 10 years ago, my old coworkers have gone through two giant voluntary layoffs. And if not enough people take it, management then handpicks the rest to be fired. Most of the people gone are voluntary. And most of them were old people who were 50+ years old since they were all pretty similar being part of the 20+ year club getting giant packages to leave. As a ballpark rule of thumb, you get about 1 months severance pay per year of service up to a limit of about two years. At least in the industry I work in. Many of the people taking the package got a new job later in the year! Some retired as the package was that good and they were already in their 60s.
 
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Microsoft-Activision Deal Poised to Close Later Than Planned

  • UK veto will prevent closing by July 18 deadline in agreement
  • Companies don't intend to walk away, will continue UK talks



Well there it is, we don't need to worry about Bobby walking away from the deal.
 
Why would they leak an extension when the expiration date was one of the tools they were using to guide the proceedings toward the end result they wanted? "Time is of the essence" was certainly the sales pitch of the day today.
Well I don't know but sometimes these things come out. You think they are going to close the deal tomorrow?
 
I just don't think Bobby cares about the $3B on a personal level. He makes out better joining MS. They could do an extension though if they are worried about Apple or Amazon coming in with a better offer but that's super unlikely.

How does Bobby make out better joining MS? He's currently the CEO of the Activison the company that makes the #1 selling video game for the past 10+ years? What is Microsoft offering that's better than that?
 
Redundancies happen. Also, it may not even involve it.

Since I left old company 10 years ago, my old coworkers have gone through two giant voluntary layoffs. And if not enough people take it, management then handpicks the rest to be fired. Most of the people gone are voluntary. And most of them were old people who were 50+ years old since they were all pretty similar being part of the 20+ year club getting giant packages to leave. As a ballpark rule of thumb, you get about 1 months severance pay per year of service up to a limit of about two years. At least in the industry I work in. Many of the people taking the package got a new job later in the year! Some retired as the package was that good and they were already in their 60s.

Oh for sure. The tone of this particular tweet just suggests that people within MS are shocked at some of the layoffs. This may have fuck all to do with ABK. But I thought it worthy of bringing up, considering large acquisitions frequently lead to layoffs.
 
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I just don't think Bobby cares about the $3B on a personal level. He makes out better joining MS. They could do an extension though if they are worried about Apple or Amazon coming in with a better offer but that's super unlikely.
Wow, Amazon swooping in would be something else. Microsoft is good at taking studios and destroying them, but there is no company on the planet that is more capable of absolutely and totally vaporizing an ip/studio like amazon. I'd actually pay to live in the timeline where Amazon bought Actiblizz, because it would tickle my corpo schadenfreude unlike anything else I could imagine.

Thank you for that.
 
Well I don't know but sometimes these things come out. You think they are going to close the deal tomorrow?

Maybe, maybe not. Depends on how quickly MS and the CMA can get this deal together, remember that the CMA was actually okay with a super strict timeline.

I doubt MS would leave it open though, they would probably want a signed extension before the clock runs out, which is certainly possible.
 
Well there it is, we don't need to worry about Bobby walking away from the deal.

Didn't Bloomberg also report a deal with the CMA was done and ready? I also don't expect anyone to make it known they are walking away before hand. Don't want to give any reasons to try and sue to keep that 3 bil.
 
Oh for sure. The tone of this particular tweet just suggests that people within MS are shocked at some of the layoffs. This may have fuck all to do with ABK. But I thought it worthy of bringing up, considering large acquisitions frequently lead to layoffs.
At some point we'll find out the correlation between firings and Activision roles.
 
How does Bobby make out better joining MS? He's currently the CEO of the Activison the company that makes the #1 selling video game for the past 10+ years? What is Microsoft offering that's better than that?
He's going to stay on doing that after joining MS, and if they dump him he gets a ton of money.
 
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