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Microsoft / Activision deal prevented to protect innovation and choice in cloud gaming

remeber boyz they dropped the console concerns altogether.

if xbox was just a liitle humble videogame company this deal would've been approved easy peasy.

now Xbox is suffering the sins of the father.

Phil, Jezz, Colt, Tim and the like :
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FrankWza

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PlayStation gamer's will be really happy when all the benefits of having competition disappear. Like how you got PS+ catalogue because of Game Pass. or how the PlayStation network came to exist because Sony needed to match Xbox Live. Can't wait for PlayStation to enjoy a monopoly of zero innovation because they don't have to innovate because they're the only option for a powerful home console.

Or how the IP's would die if Microsoft completely exits gaming (unlikely). There's a slim chance that there is never another Fallout or Elder Scrolls game made, ever.
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Nvzman

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For a normal company, selling 50-60 million of consoles in a generation of 6-7 years should be profitable. The console online store take 30% of any games or DLC sold there. It's a very comfortable position to be in. A lot of companies would buy the position MS is currently at.

It's just that Microsoft is greedy and does not want to waste time earning less than a billion for a division (profit). Gaming does not make sense for them unless it's earning (profiting) 10 billion and cornering the market. That's why they want to monopolize the market.
Yea I agree entirely. This cost them a shitload of money already, and was probably expected to massively boost Game Pass. If this fails to go through, I would not be surprised if MS loses a lot of faith in Xbox internally, and we either see a massive shake-up, or something a little more disappointing (like Xbox as hardware going away).
 

Noxxera

Banned
Part 3 could release around elder scrolls 6. Pretty good competition imo.
I'm not gonna bother doing the math on sony and microsoft respectives "AAA" exclusives. My point was majority of the studios microsoft has is indie studios. And my gut feeling says Sony have more AAA exclusive-making studios. But anyway I couldn't care less about that. My main and only reason I want the purchase to go through is Blizzard. I'd hope they start making good or better games after the fact then what they're doing currently.

But yeah this whole discord is around Xbox management and CoD which I dont really care much about. I think Xbox is doing fine rn. Too early to tell if the games are gonna be shite cause new Senua, ES6 and Starfield havent been released yet since the studios was bought. And Starfield was prolly already in deep development when it was bought so there's that. My hope is the quality goes up being bought versus not gotten it.
 

CheeseCake

Member
I actually thought it was going through.

The fact that it didn't is definitely unexpected. So this is VERY surprising.

What ISN'T unexpected is the copium, hopium and fanboyism going around on social media

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zomboden

Banned
get cucked MS

Now use those 20 studios you already own and make some damn games out of them
People who say shit like this don't realize how small Xbox is in Microsofts mind and the higher ups would rather just flip a switch and stop gaming if they think it's literally too much trouble for them. It's not like Sony and PlayStation where they rely on it. Xbox is small fry to Microsoft. They could kill it without hesitiation. Hell, their stock might go up if they closed all the gaming studios and fired everybody.
 

ToTTenTranz

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This guy is truly the anti nostradamus :messenger_grinning_sweat::messenger_tears_of_joy:
Michael Pachter is simply an employee of a consulting company hired by Microsoft. He's basically a subcontractor working for Microsoft, so he'll say whatever Microsoft tells him to.


That's fine, the biggest 3rd party company, can stay 3rd party. No one has lost or gain anything.
Correction: it's a very profitable 3rd party company. The only thing preventing ABK from being immensely profitable are their directors whose incompetence led to the scandals that screwed up their ESG score and access to cheap short-term loans.
Just get rid of Kotick, Lulu & friends and the company's profits will soar. It's that simple. ABK's earnings were never the issue.
 
I´m just suprised to see how many people around here care either way.
Is NeoGaf full of big stockholders or what`s going on?
 
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No fucking way! Im busy right now but gonna read through this whole thread later! Looks like Microsoft will need to earn their way, instead of buy their way to success. Now go create some fucking games with the 25 studios you already bought.
 
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Thirty7ven

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Literally my take from earlier too. Not sure if this tweet has been posted yet. Mat is with NPD/Circana or w/e theyre calling themselves now. Man knows sales.

I think it's ridiculous to assume cloud will take off, and then pre-emptively punish Xbox for having advantage by being owned by Microsoft.


Absolute awful take, just ignorant and dumb and the guy should stick to counting numbers.

Regulators are trying to prevent what happened to social media, when for example Facebook bought Instagram and WhatsApp and killed innovation for good. It had to come from China (Tik tok) because nobody in the west was willing to compete.

You have to prevent bs, not fix it.
 

zomboden

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Absolute awful take, just ignorant and dumb and the guy should stick to counting numbers.

Regulators are trying to prevent what happened to social media, when for example Facebook bought Instagram and WhatsApp and killed innovation for good. It had to come from China (Tik tok) because nobody in the west was willing to compete.

You have to prevent bs, not fix it.
Ah, so part of the job description for regulators is the magical ability to be able to predict what technology will look like in the next 10-20 years. Gotcha. People in the year 2003 could definitely predict smart phones, AI, self driving electric cars, etc.
 
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Yea I agree entirely. This cost them a shitload of money already, and was probably expected to massively boost Game Pass. If this fails to go through, I would not be surprised if MS loses a lot of faith in Xbox internally, and we either see a massive shake-up, or something a little more disappointing (like Xbox as hardware going away).

I think a change in course for the company as a whole already started now that the tech world and Nadella is obsessed with the next big thing; AI. I suspect they'll be putting obscene amounts of money into that to fight Google, who unlike Sony/Nintendo, have a similarly ridiculous war chest of cash.

Put it this way - what industry do you think MS sees as more profitable and has the potential to be a more disruptive tech right now, console/cloud gaming or AI? It's clear to me the latter would be the clear favourite.
 

graywolf323

Member
woah, I definitely didn’t expect this after their last revision

I agree with others that this is for the best, Microsoft has plenty of studios already and didn’t need more (they have more than Nintendo or Sony already)

Bethesda has been saving them so far this gen from their own terrible management of all their other studios
 

Thirty7ven

Banned
Ah, so part of the job description for regulators is the magical ability to be able to predict what technology will look like in the next 10-20 years. Gotcha. People in the year 2003 could definitely predict smart phones, AI, self driving electric cars, etc.

Point being that MS has everything it needs to create the future that they are saying IS the future. Get it? This isn’t hard.
 

zomboden

Banned
I think a change in course for the company as a whole already started now that the tech world and Nadella is obsessed with the next big thing; AI. I suspect they'll be putting obscene amounts of money into that to fight Google, who unlike Sony/Nintendo, have a similarly ridiculous war chest of cash.

Put it this way - what industry do you think MS sees as more profitable and has the potential to be a more disruptive tech right now, console/cloud gaming or AI? It's clear to me the latter would be the clear favourite.
They're going to take the money from this failed acquisition and put it elsewhere. I'd just about bet on it. It won't go to Xbox division. Xbox will be on a path to death if they don't start coming up with some serious innovations soon.
 

LordOfChaos

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Ok didn't impact the stock opening too much, they're executing on all fronts except for Xbox which frankly isn't that important to their business

I do have to wonder about their dedication and future of it if this doesn't go through
 
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