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Microsoft / Activision deal prevented to protect innovation and choice in cloud gaming
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Thirty7ven
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Power of the Cloud too real even for Xbox fans ATM
Boots_the_God
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Moral of the story: competition is only good for consumers unless the leader feels threatened. 
Topher
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mansoor1980
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ironic given how much microsoft promote power of the cloud
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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SenjutsuSage
Sorry to ask bro but can you get me dat SF6 please?
Boots_the_God
Member
The funny part is that was always gonna be the case. Players just would've had the option to play them for a fraction of the price with game pass. People jump through some crazy mental hoops to make that sound like a bad thing.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
dotnotbot
Member
Yeah, what's even worse there's a possibility PS gamers will get an exclusive skin or two, making Xbox version literally unplayable.
jm89
Member
For now.
Phil can still make amends and do the right thing. Jimbo is ready, but not for inadequate deals.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Jokes aside, this genuinely shocked me. I never thought the CMA were going to block the deal; I thought they'd ask for yet stricter remedies even after the weak 10-year offers MS's been giving, but otherwise would approve. This just throws everything into chaos now.
The deal is dead. I don't even see the EC approving and we know where the FTC stands on it. Wow.
The deal is dead. I don't even see the EC approving and we know where the FTC stands on it. Wow.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Says who? Microsoft? Nobody trusting such a shit company unless they put it in legally binding contracts.
If they are serious about games everywhere then drop your console, drop your service and become a third party who provides the infrastructure to others.
MS’s words don’t match their actions.
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Topher
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Ah........went right over my head, didn't it? lol
ComputerBlue
Member
Whether you like all Activision blizzard games or none at all, do you not see the bigger picture in this, are you that narrow minded that you only think how it may affect you on a very small scale, right now, not even considering the implications it would have on gaming as a whole down the line, which would ultimately affect you?The only game I am interested in is Diablo 4, other than that, Activision does not bring anything for me as a gamer, so:
Hitchyhero
Banned
They were going to be able to play them anyway?
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
I am watching Twitter like a hawk right now.
Some people aren't gonna believe me, but I am genuinely surprised they blocked the deal. I doubt anyone saw this coming.
Boots_the_God
Member
They already showed they were willing to leave it on PS. Sony just didn't want to have to pay for it.
NickFire
Member
Probably not. But after yesterday's financial results and now having to pay Activision around $3B to not buy COD, you never know. Those sales could certainly help getting the books in order.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Willing now who knows later.
Again, drop the hw, drop the service and become a content and infrastructure provider. Actions meet words.
El Pistolero
Banned
oldergamer
Member
This will just go to the courts
ToTTenTranz
Banned
I mean why do they even subject themselves to this kind of humiliation?
There is no such thing in the UK.
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Topher
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I posted this in the OT:
This is interesting.....
"When appealing the CMA’s substantive decision in a merger case, a judicial review standard applies, meaning the applicant must show that the CMA acted irrationally, illegally or with procedural impropriety. The CAT will not engage with the merits of the CMA’s decision or conduct a wholesale review of the parties’ evidence. In practice this means that applicants face a high threshold when seeking to overturn a merger decision, which is reflected in the statistics: the CMA has won 67% of all merger appeals since 2010."
Appealing a decision by the CMA in a merger review – The In-House Lawyer
www.inhouselawyer.co.uk
bender
What time is it?
Tennis or Basketball?
Unknown?
Member
That's naivety.
drganon
Member
Ign.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
so.... do we all like bri ish people now?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
This boogie man being propagated by the PR/fanatic channels was always so silly. But with that said, Tencent doesn't compete in the console/platform business. 40% is not a controlling share, and their investments remain third party for all gamers to enjoy.
ZoukGalaxy
Member
GOOD.
Microsoft have an horrible history of monopoly and all "remedy" are only bureaucratic hypocrisy.
Now stop buying, crying, and MAKE AWESOME FU***** GAMES with ALL your studios.
Microsoft have an horrible history of monopoly and all "remedy" are only bureaucratic hypocrisy.
Now stop buying, crying, and MAKE AWESOME FU***** GAMES with ALL your studios.
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Gamezone
Gold Member
Win win my ass. No day one on Gamepass, probably no xCloud, no Steam, no GeForce Now, no Switch.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
GOOD.
Microsoft have an horrible history of monopoly.
Now stop buying, crying, and MAKE AWESOME FU***** GAMES with ALL your studios.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Xbox could pay to get these games on gamepass. Since when aren't Activision games on steam?
zomboden
Banned
Blizzard games aren’t on steam
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
I doubt either. It's not like other companies weren't watching this ABK deal process go through. They're going to take an acquisition offer from Microsoft as a large risk; if the deal is blocked (and there are reasons MS acquiring either Ubisoft or Capcom could still be blocked, BTW), then those companies take a massive hit in their share prices, and they don't have the valuation to tank hits the way ABK does.
There's also a reputation component to consider; would they want to risk being used in a war of aggression on critics to their deal, including partners like Sony & Nintendo, risking stability in those business relationships?
People think it's really as simple as MS having the money and getting what they want. Today clearly shows that isn't the case.
These are not the same thing. Your thinking is basically, "Big Tech #1 won appeal, Big Tech #2 will win appeal too!". You aren't even considering these are entirely different matters at hand; Apple's case didn't involve a M&A.
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solidus12
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No Zeebo, no Nokia N-Gage
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Well, it was before the investigation, not after the final decision. Too little too late for Microsoft.
Unknown?
Member
No one's stopping that from happening. Microsoft could easily facilitate a deal to have it on gamepass day 1 and Valve could easily have it put on Steam. Microsoft buying Activision isn't the only way to make this happen.
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itsjustJEFF
Member
Damn, I honestly thought this was going thru.
Interesting that it boiled down to Microsoft's position in Cloud that was the road block and not console gaming. The CMA's public statements were pretty eye opening, as to what they had fears over... it wasn't the console space, it was the mobile/cloud gaming space.
Interesting that it boiled down to Microsoft's position in Cloud that was the road block and not console gaming. The CMA's public statements were pretty eye opening, as to what they had fears over... it wasn't the console space, it was the mobile/cloud gaming space.
Pedro Motta
Gold Member
All gamers today after the industry is saved from the clutches of consolidation.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Here is what Microsoft needs to do now:
-Release games from their 24 existing studios on a timely basis.
-Make sure they are ambitious, different, innovative so they stand out alongside a sea of GaaS trash and open world nonsense from the rest of the industry.
-Market your games better. Have multiple showcases a year and focus on long gameplay demos instead of sizzle reals. We have no idea what’s coming after this year.
- Ensure games release on time and complete. Use the other studios to help ship games without missing features like the 60 fps mode. Manage projects better to ensure games like starfield and halo come out on time. 24 fucking studios should be able to help each other out.
- buy pc porting studios to free up devs from having to ship multiplatform games. First party should not be doing multiplat development. Sony's approach of contracting smaller studios is the right one. The one time they didnt (a la TLOU Part 1) it blew up in their face.
- 24 Studios is more than enough. Even if games take 6 years to make, thats 4 AAA games per year. You cannot go 2 games in 3 years like they did between 2020-2022.
- Invest in the loyal fanbase who buy your console gen after gen instead of chasing whales who couldnt care less. Kinect didnt work. Tv tv didnt work. And now billions of people on the cloud? Come on. Just dance with the one who brought you.
Overall, I think MS needs to change their mentality. These shortcuts to success are never going to make Xbox the brand they want to be. Even if this had killed sony, People wouldve reluctantly buy their products until someone better comes along and then its back to square one for Microsoft. Make better products. Stuff like Starfield, God of War, Elden Ring, Hogwarts, and RE4. Give people a reason to buy your console instead of forcing them.
-Release games from their 24 existing studios on a timely basis.
-Make sure they are ambitious, different, innovative so they stand out alongside a sea of GaaS trash and open world nonsense from the rest of the industry.
-Market your games better. Have multiple showcases a year and focus on long gameplay demos instead of sizzle reals. We have no idea what’s coming after this year.
- Ensure games release on time and complete. Use the other studios to help ship games without missing features like the 60 fps mode. Manage projects better to ensure games like starfield and halo come out on time. 24 fucking studios should be able to help each other out.
- buy pc porting studios to free up devs from having to ship multiplatform games. First party should not be doing multiplat development. Sony's approach of contracting smaller studios is the right one. The one time they didnt (a la TLOU Part 1) it blew up in their face.
- 24 Studios is more than enough. Even if games take 6 years to make, thats 4 AAA games per year. You cannot go 2 games in 3 years like they did between 2020-2022.
- Invest in the loyal fanbase who buy your console gen after gen instead of chasing whales who couldnt care less. Kinect didnt work. Tv tv didnt work. And now billions of people on the cloud? Come on. Just dance with the one who brought you.
Overall, I think MS needs to change their mentality. These shortcuts to success are never going to make Xbox the brand they want to be. Even if this had killed sony, People wouldve reluctantly buy their products until someone better comes along and then its back to square one for Microsoft. Make better products. Stuff like Starfield, God of War, Elden Ring, Hogwarts, and RE4. Give people a reason to buy your console instead of forcing them.
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GHG
Member
The appeal that Apple won was for an investigation. We are well past that stage in this process.
Sleepwalker
Member
Jim Ryan today:
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