The blitz ain’t got nothing on Spencer coming at UK in the wake of this announcement.So are we done for in the UK?
I'm thinking of sleeping on the pavement outside my house to prepare myself as homeless.
Although death valley does have a nice ring to it, might buy some new threads to go with that death valley look.
What a shithead.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001lbd3 BBC interview with Brad Smith Microsoft President over the Deal
I skimmed through it. Here's some tidbits.
He doubles down on the fact that this is bad for UK's economy and all the big tech was watching this deal and now they will avoid them UK because of the CMA "Shake the confidence among the business community" says CMA has extreme lack of understanding.
Says that cloud gaming is a small business and isn't going the direction they say it is. Says Microsoft's max streaming capacity (XCLOUD) is 5,000 people to the entire country.
"Torpedo a 68 Billion Dollar Global Transaction over a concern over a small part of the business. And rejecting all these proposals. It leaves people worried."
He is then asked if this changes his perspective or Microsoft's perspective of the UK. He says "We've been in the UK for 40 years, defended them using cyber security. This decision is the darkest day of the entire 40 years in britain. It shakes our confidence more than ever before."
"Will it affect Microsofts business in the UK?" "We will definitely keep it in mind" he responds
That was all in the first 7 minutes. I'll leave you the rest to listen to if you wish. Anyways the too long didnt listen/read is: Microsoft is pissed at the UK.
its 5000 concurrent. Regardless, it is a small number yes. But this deal is not about stopping a current monopoly but the possibility of a future one.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001lbd3 BBC interview with Brad Smith Microsoft President over the Deal
I skimmed through it. Here's some tidbits.
He doubles down on the fact that this is bad for UK's economy and all the big tech was watching this deal and now they will avoid them UK because of the CMA "Shake the confidence among the business community" says CMA has extreme lack of understanding.
Says that cloud gaming is a small business and isn't going the direction they say it is. Says Microsoft's max streaming capacity (XCLOUD) is 5,000 people to the entire country.
"Torpedo a 68 Billion Dollar Global Transaction over a concern over a small part of the business. And rejecting all these proposals. It leaves people worried."
He is then asked if this changes his perspective or Microsoft's perspective of the UK. He says "We've been in the UK for 40 years, defended them using cyber security. This decision is the darkest day of the entire 40 years in britain. It shakes our confidence more than ever before."
"Will it affect Microsofts business in the UK?" "We will definitely keep it in mind" he responds
That was all in the first 7 minutes. I'll leave you the rest to listen to if you wish. Anyways the too long didnt listen/read is: Microsoft is pissed at the UK.
You mean like sega and the dreamcast. They produced great game after great game. But couldn't over come the mindshare of Sony. It will take more than great games to defeat that mindshare. Nintendo produces great games but had to leave the high performance console market because of Sony mindshare.
I hate that this shitshow has given me another reason to like Sunak beyond not being Liz Truss.Rishi and his office claps back:
https://m.economictimes.com/tech/te...for-britain-official/articleshow/99816327.cms
Rishi and his office claps back:
https://m.economictimes.com/tech/te...for-britain-official/articleshow/99816327.cms
yes and only the people who wanted to this deal to fail for any reason whatsoever with every fiber of their being are championing the CMA's reason. Cloud gaming is a joke and everyone knows it. Stadia was a joke. Luna is a joke. Geforce Now is only good if you have extreme internet connectivity and even then you can't play games competetively ever because it has added latency and input delay. xCloud is 1080 60 at a low bitrate and it looks and runs like absolute garbage. worse than stadia/luna/geforce by far. It's by far the most accessible but worse quality streaming service.its 5000 concurrent. Regardless, it is a small number yes. But this deal is not about stopping a current monopoly but the possibility of a future one.
'Here's your L, mate. You better bloody hold it, ya wanka'.Rishi and his office claps back:
https://m.economictimes.com/tech/te...for-britain-official/articleshow/99816327.cms
So the total market is a few hours of ps5 sales lol. So predicting a market that small is a joke. It would need to grow exponentially to even be viable. So taking away any incentive of a company to grow it is the cma deciding a market should die. If they attempt this with every market in its infancy your just killing innovation and protecting the status quo. Why start a new market or grow it if your going to be punished for it.its 5000 concurrent. Regardless, it is a small number yes. But this deal is not about stopping a current monopoly but the possibility of a future one.
Shut up, Brad, you overdramatic cunt.This decision is the darkest day of the entire 40 years in Britain.
Once again this isn't on sony. Please read the new marching orders.Well this is worse for Sony. MS will then make many exclusive deals with Activision then, and make games not even playable on the Playstation. Before, they agreed to put them on the system. Sony just fucked themselves.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001lbd3 BBC interview with Brad Smith Microsoft President over the Deal
I skimmed through it. Here's some tidbits.
He doubles down on the fact that this is bad for UK's economy and all the big tech was watching this deal and now they will avoid them UK because of the CMA "Shake the confidence among the business community" says CMA has extreme lack of understanding.
Says that cloud gaming is a small business and isn't going the direction they say it is. Says Microsoft's max streaming capacity (XCLOUD) is 5,000 people to the entire country.
"Torpedo a 68 Billion Dollar Global Transaction over a concern over a small part of the business. And rejecting all these proposals. It leaves people worried."
He is then asked if this changes his perspective or Microsoft's perspective of the UK. He says "We've been in the UK for 40 years, defended them using cyber security. This decision is the darkest day of the entire 40 years in britain. It shakes our confidence more than ever before."
"Will it affect Microsofts business in the UK?" "We will definitely keep it in mind" he responds
That was all in the first 7 minutes. I'll leave you the rest to listen to if you wish. Anyways the too long didnt listen/read is: Microsoft is pissed at the UK.
Maybe they used MSes own definition?You realize the cma blocked a 70 billion dollar deal over their definition of cloud gaming being its own market instead of just another way to sell access to games?.
Just pulled up some random 2022 numbers. PS5 took 98 weeks to get to 2 mil sales in UK. https://www.gamesindustry.biz/ps5-h...rth-fastest-selling-games-console-of-all-timeDo the total market is a few hours of ps5 sales lol. So predicting a market that small is a joke. It would need to grow exponentially to even be viable. So taking away any incentive of a company to grow it is the cma deciding a market should die. If they attempt this with every market in its infancy your just killing innovation and protecting the status quo. Why start a new market or grow it if your going to be punished for it.
Well, well, well. Look who’s turning their hopes into the regulatory nightmare of the EU. You ok, Britain?I guess we gotta hope the EU blocks it too, to stop this deal dead?
Rishi Sunak take note - disband the CMA, hire youtube content creators to oversee your markets.yes and only the people who wanted to this deal to fail for any reason whatsoever with every fiber of their being are championing the CMA's reason. Cloud gaming is a joke and everyone knows it. Stadia was a joke. Luna is a joke. Geforce Now is only good if you have extreme internet connectivity and even then you can't play games competetively ever because it has added latency and input delay. xCloud is 1080 60 at a low bitrate and it looks and runs like absolute garbage. worse than stadia/luna/geforce by far. It's by far the most accessible but worse quality streaming service.
xCloud is simply an accessory to Xbox Game Pass to entice people to play on the go and stuff. Everybody knows it. Damaging their relationship with Microsoft and the entire big tech industry over that reasoning makes no sense.
Every single content creator I follow that I've seen react to this decision that already wanted this deal to fail said "I dunno why cloud was their reasoning, but good cause I dont like big companies combining."
Not a single person was like "omg omg the incoming cloud gaming monopoly".
So it is nice to know that low supply of XSX aren't to build their cloud infrastructure then since they can only provide for 5000 people in the US.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001lbd3 BBC interview with Brad Smith Microsoft President over the Deal
I skimmed through it. Here's some tidbits.
He doubles down on the fact that this is bad for UK's economy and all the big tech was watching this deal and now they will avoid them UK because of the CMA "Shake the confidence among the business community" says CMA has extreme lack of understanding.
Says that cloud gaming is a small business and isn't going the direction they say it is. Says Microsoft's max streaming capacity (XCLOUD) is 5,000 people to the entire country.
"Torpedo a 68 Billion Dollar Global Transaction over a concern over a small part of the business. And rejecting all these proposals. It leaves people worried."
He is then asked if this changes his perspective or Microsoft's perspective of the UK. He says "We've been in the UK for 40 years, defended them using cyber security. This decision is the darkest day of the entire 40 years in britain. It shakes our confidence more than ever before."
"Will it affect Microsofts business in the UK?" "We will definitely keep it in mind" he responds
That was all in the first 7 minutes. I'll leave you the rest to listen to if you wish. Anyways the too long didnt listen/read is: Microsoft is pissed at the UK.
Sony just fucked themselves.Well this is worse for Sony. MS will then make many exclusive deals with Activision then, and make games not even playable on the Playstation. Before, MS agreed to put them on the system. Sony just fucked themselves.
I don't know how mad Microsoft and Activision really are. Behind closed doors I mean.Bloody hell....
MS isn't going to let this go are they? Can't they just give up?
So what, now xbox in the UK ends up being even more shite as we get a spin off of the box box devision with a seperate store, not the same game pass games....different deals for us as Microsoft operates internationally?
I guess we gotta hope the EU blocks it too, to stop this deal dead?
Bloody hell....
MS isn't going to let this go are they? Can't they just give up?
So what, now xbox in the UK ends up being even more shite as we get a spin off of the box box devision with a seperate store, not the same game pass games....different deals for us as Microsoft operates internationally?
I guess we gotta hope the EU blocks it too, to stop this deal dead?
No they won't. Games sell like shit on Xbox, there's only so many deals MS can make before Acti-Blizz potentially fade into irrelevance. Activision needs Sony just as much as Sony needs Activision.Well this is worse for Sony. MS will then make many exclusive deals with Activision then, and make games not even playable on the Playstation. Before, MS agreed to put them on the system.
Dreamcast could not overcome the mindshare of Sega which they destroyed.You mean like sega and the dreamcast. They produced great game after great game. But couldn't over come the mindshare of Sony. It will take more than great games to defeat that mindshare. Nintendo produces great games but had to leave the high performance console market because of Sony mindshare.
Good to see NeoGAF's fan fiction community blossoming. Peeps need to rewatch earlier seasons though. Microsoft had co-marketing partnerships on Call of Duty for most of the seventh generation and some of the eighth. PlayStation grew rapidly as a brand during that time and MS began to lose the advantage. Activision switched allegiances shortly into the eighth generation and hasn't looked back.Well this is worse for Sony. MS will then make many exclusive deals with Activision then, and make games not even playable on the Playstation. Before, MS agreed to put them on the system.
I don't know how mad Microsoft and Activision really are. Behind closed doors I mean.
But let's just say... you better hope the CMA isn't the only regulatory body stopping the deal. All I'm saying.
You might be getting an OBOX with Xbat game ticket subscription and call of shooty.
Yup!They would be doing Microsoft a massive favour cause this is getting embarrassing now. Microsoft are making themselves look awful from all this. Why not just be professional and say they were disappointed in the decision and will appeal? Instead of bizarre statements attacking the UK?
The CMA has internal data from MS, ABK, and other parties about the trajectory of multigame subscription services and cloud gaming. Their decisions are based on more information than what you and I have.Cloud gaming is a joke and everyone knows it. Stadia was a joke. Luna is a joke. Geforce Now is only good if you have extreme internet connectivity and even then you can't play games competetively ever because it has added latency and input delay. xCloud is 1080 60 at a low bitrate and it looks and runs like absolute garbage. worse than stadia/luna/geforce by far. It's by far the most accessible but worse quality streaming service.
xCloud is simply an accessory to Xbox Game Pass to entice people to play on the go and stuff. Everybody knows it. Damaging their relationship with Microsoft and the entire big tech industry over that reasoning makes no sense.
Every single content creator I follow that I've seen react to this decision that already wanted this deal to fail said "I dunno why cloud was their reasoning, but good cause I dont like big companies combining."
Not a single person was like "omg omg the incoming cloud gaming monopoly".
Microsoft: "This is the darkest day in our four decades in Britain"
You think they will close their whole uk devs?
Activison will also rename the franchise to "Block of Duty" to mark the occasion.MS will then make many exclusive deals with Activision then, and make games not even playable on the Playstation
No, but I think they can find a way around it.You think they will close their whole uk devs?
You see Microsoft's true nature when they don't get what they want.Rishi and his office claps back:
https://m.economictimes.com/tech/te...for-britain-official/articleshow/99816327.cms
Well this is worse for Sony. MS will then make many exclusive deals with Activision then, and make games not even playable on the Playstation. Before, MS agreed to put them on the system.
It's the fact that the type of battery in controllers is brought up at all and used as some kind of boasting point. The controller could be wired for all I care. It's silly and few people care. That's why it's embarrassing when threads like that crop up.What is it with the continual hate for Xbox controllers and batteries? Are people seriously that hurt by having to buy some rechargeable ones that end up lasting longer then the PlayStation controller's battery? How is this still an argument that carries weight to it?
Microsoft does indeed have many resources, and I'm not arguing against internal revision to realign development mentalities. What I'm arguing against is the CMA decision, which is based on an industry that "may" be worth €1 billion by 2026. Maybe, if people actually shift to that consumer style and the infrastructure is available to do so. Right now, and I really can't see it changing in less than three years time, that isn't there so the decision is based on hypothetical stretches.
Would the content library be massive for Xbox and Microsoft? Most definitely, can't argue against that. However there would be severe cannibalism if Microsoft decided to foreclose any IP's of significance that can move the needle in game sales. It'd be like setting on fire truck loads of money to pamper a brand that doesn't need it, instead the association is key. That's how CoD got so big and is why Sont focused so much on it, because it is PlayStation now in the eyes of the consumer.
I didn't ignore Switch, and know very well Nintendo is actually the number one in console space. However Nintendo operates on an entirely different stratosphere of thinking, and you can't deny that at all. Heck even the CMA agrees there. I will just be very interested how this all plays out in the coming remainder of year, as we have some big titles coming from Sony that will continue to bolster their lead. Whether that upsets the industry or not, who knows
They would be doing Microsoft a massive favour cause this is getting embarrassing now. Microsoft are making themselves look awful from all this. Why not just be professional and say they were disappointed in the decision and will appeal? Instead of bizarre statements attacking the UK?
It's true. I actually don't really care either way - I thought it was not great, but assumed it was just happening anyway - I'm just deeply enjoying the chance to make and laugh at my own jokes.Yup!
No idea what they are doing, I'm not going to pretend I understand what these slime balls think is the right way to go about this shiz.
No, but I think they can find a way around it.
Like letting somebody else manage their studios/IP's in UK while secretly managing them.
Trillion dollar companies can do just about anything they want. At this point with the statements Microsoft has been putting out I would not be surprised if they didn't try to strong arm UK into approving the deal.
I don't like the idea of companies being able to bully entire countries into doing what they want. BTW.
and I think the EU will block it because UK did now too.
But there's a chance Microsoft is like "Hey, we will invest in EU more than ever if you help us pass this." And then will say well we are pulling everything out of UK and into EU.
It's unlikely.
I personally want EU to block it so Microsoft can drop it and move on to using the money to make Xbox better in other ways. Buy smaller studios. Hire more teams. Whatever. I think it's an uphill battle that is causing more negative PR and draining peoples energy more than ever.So lets hope eu and ftc is blocking too so ms can stfu with their treats. Ms is really looking aweful with this. Way worse than jim during the last year.
Holy crap, that's incredibly infantile from a corporate executive.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001lbd3 BBC interview with Brad Smith Microsoft President over the Deal
I skimmed through it. Here's some tidbits.
He doubles down on the fact that this is bad for UK's economy and all the big tech was watching this deal and now they will avoid them UK because of the CMA "Shake the confidence among the business community" says CMA has extreme lack of understanding.
Says that cloud gaming is a small business and isn't going the direction they say it is. Says Microsoft's max streaming capacity (XCLOUD) is 5,000 people to the entire country.
"Torpedo a 68 Billion Dollar Global Transaction over a concern over a small part of the business. And rejecting all these proposals. It leaves people worried."
He is then asked if this changes his perspective or Microsoft's perspective of the UK. He says "We've been in the UK for 40 years, defended them using cyber security. This decision is the darkest day of the entire 40 years in britain. It shakes our confidence more than ever before."
"Will it affect Microsofts business in the UK?" "We will definitely keep it in mind" he responds
That was all in the first 7 minutes. I'll leave you the rest to listen to if you wish. Anyways the too long didnt listen/read is: Microsoft is pissed at the UK.
I personally want EU to block it so Microsoft can drop it and move on to using the money to make Xbox better in other ways. Buy smaller studios. Hire more teams. Whatever. I think it's an uphill battle that is causing more negative PR and draining peoples energy more than ever.
A loss is a loss and there's no way this regulatory body is going to change their mind because of some threats. At least I don't think so. Time to move on.
As clueless and dumb as I think the decision was. A decision is a decision.
The company I presently work for has strong ties with MS. Will be great if we can chuck all this Windows crap out, and move onto Macs / Linux, and AWS instead."Will it affect Microsofts business in the UK?" "We will definitely keep it in mind" he responds
At this point it wouldn't surprise me that his entire career at MS is at stake because of this deal.Holy crap, that's incredibly infantile from a corporate executive.
You see Microsoft's true nature when they don't get what they want.
Phil and co like to paint themselves as the "good guy here get free games we love all" then they act like 5 year old children when someone says no.
i hope the european commision is watching how MS is making threats against the UK and block them toohttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001lbd3 BBC interview with Brad Smith Microsoft President over the Deal
I skimmed through it. Here's some tidbits.
He doubles down on the fact that this is bad for UK's economy and all the big tech was watching this deal and now they will avoid them UK because of the CMA "Shake the confidence among the business community" says CMA has extreme lack of understanding.
Says that cloud gaming is a small business and isn't going the direction they say it is. Says Microsoft's max streaming capacity (XCLOUD) is 5,000 people to the entire country.
"Torpedo a 68 Billion Dollar Global Transaction over a concern over a small part of the business. And rejecting all these proposals. It leaves people worried."
He is then asked if this changes his perspective or Microsoft's perspective of the UK. He says "We've been in the UK for 40 years, defended them using cyber security. This decision is the darkest day of the entire 40 years in britain. It shakes our confidence more than ever before."
"Will it affect Microsofts business in the UK?" "We will definitely keep it in mind" he responds
That was all in the first 7 minutes. I'll leave you the rest to listen to if you wish. Anyways the too long didnt listen/read is: Microsoft is pissed at the UK.
I know the CMA is 100x more qualified than me to make regulatory based decisions. But my opinion as a life time gamer is cloud = nothing.We dont have the same data as the cma to call is clueless and dumb.