• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Microsoft / Activision deal prevented to protect innovation and choice in cloud gaming

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
I'm not saying it did or did not happen. But if did happen, why would it be a bad thing? If countries are going to have a branch in multiple countries, isn't it natural for the regulatory bodies to cooperate. Just financially it makes sense and saves a ton of money on lawyers and research, etc.
They communicate and share with each other all the time, hence the global economy with global companies. This is a big nothing burger either way. This is brain-rot candy for the useful idiots out there.
 
Last edited:
Fucking savages. Almost thought this was going to happen seeing as the UK Gov pretty much didn't give a shit about Nvidia buying ARM until ARM clients were like "This would be a risk to national security" LOL

Part of me really wanted to see what would have happened if MS got this deal approved.
 

Elios83

Member
They did. They blocked the deal and a government spokesmen called Microsoft out. Nothing more needed really.

Only person that is weak is brad smith with all his crying.

A really poor show with accusations, trying to involve the government and taking an other L.
That tells a lot about how much they believe in their appeal chances and about their true colors as a company that thinks they can do whatever they want and force their way to reach their goals.
Hopefully EU gives them no more chances to prolong this shitshow past May.
 
Absolutely no one, on here, within the industry, within the cloud holders, has ever feared Xbox taking over the cloud. They are leading with xCloud but are nowhere near any sort of monopoly, even if they got this merger through there is no issue for other publishers to build a robust cloud infrastructure.

But now, every armchair analyst is gonna pretend this is a thing.

It's especially funny that some people are arguing that the cloud is a huge problem that must be stopped, even if they haven't thought about a cloud in about 3 years. They are even looking for Phil Spencer's quotes about the cloud.

You guys are unreal lol.
So basically Phil and Satya's own words matter until they don't. Gotcha. At least we know where you stand now 🤣
 
I'm not saying it did or did not happen. But if did happen, why would it be a bad thing? If these companies are going to have a branch in multiple countries, isn't it natural for the regulatory bodies to cooperate. Just financially it makes sense and saves a ton of money on lawyers and research, etc.
Exactly. So FTC, who also do not want the deal to happen, advised UK CMA on their findings and thoughts.
AND?
 

Jerm411

Member
the new conspiracy , no way some actually believe this



star-wars.gif


I am loving these lol….
 

DrFigs

Member
As someone who wanted this desl to go through im glad CMA seen through MS bullshit with cloud gaming, especially since its something thats going to be pretty big in the next 10 years or so and MS didnt want to discuss it because they definitely want to make all there games cloud exclusives
It's really neat that there's no shortage of public statements from MS about how they're going to reach billions of new customers via the cloud and that they don't see Sony as a competitor anymore. It would be weird to walk this back and say actually, cloud gaming won't be that big.
 
Last edited:

NickFire

Member
So basically Phil and Satya's own words matter until they don't. Gotcha. At least we know where you stand now 🤣
In my humble opinion, It certainly now seems that any appeal will have to include arguments as to why the APPELLANT'S own words should be ignored as unreliable. And that is an extremely difficult issue to navigate through. It begs for summary dismissal.
 
Strange how cloud gaming isn't important now. But, wasn't Phil just saying how Nintendo and Sony weren't their competition, but the companies more likely to go against them in cloud gaming, like Google or Apple?

He said once it was their #1 focus. They are already the leader in this area without Activision and Call of Duty. But, now none of that is no longer important to the future?
 
Glad to see this result. It seems like common sense prevailed.

To me, there was no argument about the anti-competitive nature of this deal. Glad the CMA saw that and had the courage to call it out.

The EU will probably follow suit since they're even less intimidated by MS's bullshit and bravado. They've handed out multimillion-dollar fines to MS in the past for their anti-competitive dealings, so they will have no issues seeing why this deal is fundamentally bad for marketplace competition and ultimately gamers (even if some idiot gamers can't see it).

Lol at Brad Smith and his cronies. Those fuckers are an absolute disgrace, and openly threatening an entire country is tantamount to coercion and that's certainly going to help their case with the EU and FTC ... fucking LOL

50 cent laughing GIF
 

NickFire

Member
Just passing by to post a quality meltdown I found.

uFMaXGv.png
Will be interesting to see if MS puts out a formal statement disclaiming any implication this will impact their enterprise / government business relationships. He may be a nobody to them, but they are very in tune with internet chatter, and they know how talking points can spread like wildfire. If they don't get ahead of these implications before people start believing them, it could lead to governments looking for new vendors in more places than UK.
 

zomboden

Banned
I don't understand xbox fans... you havent lost anything! Activision games are still on xbox! Or was it that you wanted their games removed from playstation? This is what it's really about isn't it?
For me personally it comes down to more value for Game Pass. I don’t even think Bethesda games should have been taken away from PlayStation.
 

DJ12

Member
Fucking savages. Almost thought this was going to happen seeing as the UK Gov pretty much didn't give a shit about Nvidia buying ARM until ARM clients were like "This would be a risk to national security" LOL

Part of me really wanted to see what would have happened if MS got this deal approved.
CMA is not a government body.
A really poor show with accusations, trying to involve the government and taking an other L.
That tells a lot about how much they believe in their appeal chances and about their true colors as a company that thinks they can do whatever they want and force their way to reach their goals.
Hopefully EU gives them no more chances to prolong this shitshow past May.
Sunak should've just said only uk tax payers can ask question to the government.
At the end of the day, the decade long push of the Power of the Cloud™ has bit them in the arsehole.
It is isn't it.

What a time to be alive. Nothing funnier than someone or thing being hoisted by their own petard.
 
Last edited:
I am definitely not suggesting there are NO negative posts abouy Sony on this forum. They do exist but I fear you don't understand the definition of bias.

Well you can't exterminate people just because they prefer one platform over another. It's why you have many different fanbases on this forum and that's not necessarily a bad thing. It makes discussions interesting IMO.

But sure some people do go overboard but we have mods that deal with them.
 

RaijinFY

Member
I don't understand xbox fans... you havent lost anything! Activision games are still on xbox! Or was it that you wanted their games removed from playstation? This is what it's really about isn't it?
It's just the generation of xbox fans Spencer gave birth to during the past 10 years or so...
 

Dutchy

Member
Best news ever.

And I say that as a primarily Xbox / GP user. Quality has been going downhill for years now. I'm a grown ass man and feel no need to defend a purchase worth a couple hundred bucks, or a shitty corporate brand. The reality of things is that Xbox is dropping all the balls and have had plenty of time to recoup from all of their horrible decision making. It's time to let them fade into nothingness.
 

TrippleA345

Member
The amount of people on Twitter who sincerely believe Microsoft can simply pack up their UK offices and suddenly have this merger happen with no negative consequences shows there’s quite a few who will believe anything.
These people would also believe in human-like reptiloids inside the planet, if they were told often enough.
 
Last edited:
he is only a commentator, not even a law degree
BmMyRkG.jpg

Why is he so invested though? What does he have to gain from Microsoft acquiring Activision?
Its about not having to pay 70 bucks for games.

Then ask Microsoft to get cod or whatever Activision game you want to play on gamepass? They don't need to acquire them to do that. Are you mad at Microsoft because they didn't acquire capcom and you have to pay $70 for resident evil 4? Or pretty much every other big 3rd party game? Pay for it like the rest of us have been doing since the damn industry started.
 
Last edited:
So ”MS can compete” that is. What a pathetic bunch, both MS and their die hard groupies.

Why can this trillion dollar corporation only compete by buying up established 3rd party ip and removing access from other platforms? This is what they should really be asking! How many new ip and big budget sequels could Microsoft create with 70b? Why dont they do that and actually make the industry better and more competitive? I Dont understand Microsoft. I really Don't. Even after this, they will try more acquisitions instead of creating their own content.
 
Last edited:

GHG

Member
Absolutely no one, on here, within the industry, within the cloud holders, has ever feared Xbox taking over the cloud. They are leading with xCloud but are nowhere near any sort of monopoly, even if they got this merger through there is no issue for other publishers to build a robust cloud infrastructure.

I've said it for a long time, cloud is Microsoft's end goal and it goes in tandem with gamepass:

The end game of these subscription services is that the primary method of delivery will be via cloud streaming. For subscription services where hardware barriers are removed, content is all that will matter.

Right now content acquisition is primarily done by throwing money at 3rd party publishers/studios but the industry as a whole has just embarked on a period of consolidation. The larger players have started snapping up gaming studios/publishers and if the likes of Google and Amazon get involved in that race then everyone is in trouble.

Gamepass isn't even profitable for them though.

This is a long term strategy to be well positioned for when the industry moves over to one that is predominantly led by subscription services and cloud streaming. They want to get people hooked into gamepass early so that they are seen as the "Netflix" of the industry.

Their intentions are so obvious to anyone paying attention.

Everything they are currently doing is positioning themselves to lock out the entire market before the next transition even happens.

A few of us have talked about this here for years, but people don't want to hear it because it kills their dream where gamepass continues in its current form at its current price forever. I hope everyone is ready for pay per minute/hour cloud streaming in order to get their gaming fix.
 
Last edited:
Top Bottom