All right, you want my estimations? 12.5 million-13 million sold through, though I'm leaning towards somewhere in the middle, so 12.75 million.
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Microsoft FY2015 Q4: 1.4M 360+XBO Shipped
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Man-is-Obsolete
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Oh wow, for some reason I thought XBO was approaching 18-20 million shipped with maybe 15 Million sold world wide. They must have next to no traction outside of UK and USA. PS4 alone probably sold through more than 1.4 million last quarter.
I don't keep up with the sales stats, but isn't XB1 ahead of XB360 for the same time period on the market. Folks saying XB1 won't get to 80 million by the end of this generation are short sighted. I didn't get my XB360 until 2009. It was on sale for $149 and that included guitar hero with guitar and sonic tennis. When the prices drop these things are going to be impulse purchases.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I think a lot of the naysaying has to do with comparing month to month sales in the same time period is down for these consoles. However, these consoles also had record breaking starts that makes those comparisons less relevant. Also PS4 has yet to have a price drop, and if they get it down to $299 this holiday that is going to be huge.
LOL, do you even have a clue what you're talking about? Yes, currently the XB1 is tracking ahead of the 360, but sales have slowed down significantly since launch. The only reason the XB1 is tracking ahead is because its launch was amazing because of how long the market was stuck with last gen consoles. Few months from now its sales will track behind the 360. Forget 80 million, the XB1 is unlikely to exceed 50 million sold through. You must be delusional to think it can reach 80 million. If you don't keep up with sales, please don't say others are "short sighted". You are just clueless.
Wake up on the wrong side of the bed today? Jesus.
3DS was also tracking ahead of NDS. I don't think people realize that the 360 launch wasn't all the spectacular. It just seemed great because it was all alone on the market.
Ottoni_Bastos
Banned
Xbox 360 had a pretty weak start though.That is the main reason why Xone is still ahead time frame aligned.
I'm not sure if Xbox one will be able to keep this way once it reaches the 2008/2016 comparison.
LOL, on the contrary, I'm going to bed now. But seriously, I hate it when people try to make themselves look smart by spewing all sorts of bullshit, when in reality, they are making themselves look ignorant.
360 started weak (the "lol ps3" had higher sales in it's first year).
360 really started to ramp up in it's 3rd year and aside from 2 or 3 months it never lost the monthly sales in the US against the ps3.
The question now is where these 80 million are supposed to come from?
The One sells weaker everywhere market share wise in comparison to the 360.
So either it's market share changes by a huge margin and/or sales overall grow by a huge margin and/or the One will live a far longer life than the 360.
It's very unlikely that any of these 3 things will happen meaning the One is bound to sell less than the 360.
Xbox sales figures has been downplayed since I started reading gaf. It is always been "channel stuffing", "oh PS3 will surpass next year... now next year.. and next year", 3RL, etc.
Last year people are comparing with WiiU, this year people are saying it will not sell as much as first Xbox or X360.
Just like I read here people saying the Kinect boosted X360 sales, when I never read this before when Kinect launched. It was all "DOA", jokes, etc.
The first Kinect had a huge marketing campaign and sold a ton.
PanicFreak
Member
Did you not read the first line of their post? Literally admitting ignorance of the topic.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
I bought an xbox for it, was kinda fun actually. THe accuracy and room requirements were awful though.
Admitting ignorance and then proceeding to call other people short sighted is a weird way to go about it.
1st Course
Member
But it did though. Just look at the data presented in the op. Kinect effectively expanded the 360 life and made it sell record sales 5 years post-launch which is very unusual for console life cycle.
PanicFreak
Member
Maybe one could have pointed to the Kinect sales as a way of educating them? My point is that the response was overly hostile.
Darth Smurf X
Member
I'd have to agree with this. I'd own an XB1 instead of a PS4 if BC was there at launch. Now it's too late for me. I'm all in with the PS4 and couldn't be happier with my choice.
BC (this late in the gen), the integration with Rift (playing XB1 games in a virtual living room) and streaming XB1 games to Windows 10 all seem like trivial gimmicks to me that are just used as a "look what we can do" kind of thing. But in reality, I seriously doubt the average user will be utilizing these features that often. What console gamer buys a console so he/she can stream to their computer? I'd assume the number is very small. But it makes a great slide in a stockholder PowerPoint presentation. Or E3.
I know. That's my point. You didn't have that impression if you read X360 and Kinect shipment figures here in the past. It was all doom and gloom.
Liabe Brave
Member
No it wasn't, you are misremembering. There were plenty of discussions about how well Kinect was selling. You're conflating the fact that people continually mocked the tech and its use. Very few people made fun of Kinect for selling badly--indeed, some lamented it being popular, just like with Wii.
You are suprisingly forgetting true accessory success story - Wii Balance Board. Not only it managed to achieve almost 2:1 attach rate on a console that sold noticeably more than X360, but profit margins on it were spectacular.
Oh yeh haha.
Wii was something else.
What i'm trying to say though is that Kinect caused the Xbox 360 sales to go insane 5 years after release which is something no other console could do. Even the PS2 never saw a bump in sales like that during its lifetime. (Although I'll admit PS3 had a bump as well during that time, last gen was weird)
Cthulhu_Steev
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But that's self-selecting, only the most ardent users would use the feedback forums, so you would expect something like BC to be a popular request. Regular Joes don't know, or don't care about things like that, and I don't think they care about BC either.
I do, I love BC and would willingly pay extra for it, but experience tells me that most don't give a fig about it. It's not going to move the needle, and it's far too late in the day - it needs to be in from the start to have any impact.
Pretty sure he's from India, and is probably off to bed now.
lol indeed,
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
delete please
To Far Away Times
Member
Wat. I don't follow sales threads but just....What!? How the fuck? I knew it was popular, but... I am seriously dumbstruck by this.
And yeah, Kinect was a huge success for MS. Something like a 3:1 attach rate late in the generation.
... Really?
Good job missing the point which he got obviously and pointed out why he responded the way he did.
This meme was not created in vain. Wii attracted insane amount of causals.
And then that hype train burned down hard... casuals and big publishers discareded Wii, Wii HD came incredibly late [with realigned gaming genres], only most die hard fans got attracted to badly marketed and poorly supported Wii U.
The Wii was the water cooler of 7th gen.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Man, you really are a snippy, humourless dude, aren't you. Not sure what I've done to capture your annoyance today, but I guess this is farewell.
Nah I'm not actually. I was just thinking the same thing about you towards me. Guess it was just a misunderstanding between both of us. Bygones be Bygones, sorry my man.
Darth Smurf X
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The difference between the 360 Kinect and the XB1 Kinect is thisone was optional, one was (initially) forced.
And not only that, but when the 360 version was released, not only was it optional, but it had quite the line-up of games either at launch or soon-to-be-released. So it actually had value. I bought one and played the heck out of it for months. Dance Central, Fruit Ninja, Child of Eden, Gunstringer, fitness games... it was great.
The XB1 version had... I don't even remember... Figher Within and the promise of Fantasia and Dance Central Spotlight. Oh, and a Fitness app that would eventually become a paid app after the free trial wore off. And nothing else on the horizon. It made the console $100 more expensive than their rival and had no gaming value outside of voice commands, which also had mixed results.
Even I, who bought the 360 Kinect, did NOT want to be forced into buying the XB1 Kinect until more games were revealed. Sorry... DC:S and Fitness were not worth the extra $100 early entrant fee.
What were we talking about again?
Oh, yeah. Javin's bedtime.
And not only that, but when the 360 version was released, not only was it optional, but it had quite the line-up of games either at launch or soon-to-be-released. So it actually had value. I bought one and played the heck out of it for months. Dance Central, Fruit Ninja, Child of Eden, Gunstringer, fitness games... it was great.
The XB1 version had... I don't even remember... Figher Within and the promise of Fantasia and Dance Central Spotlight. Oh, and a Fitness app that would eventually become a paid app after the free trial wore off. And nothing else on the horizon. It made the console $100 more expensive than their rival and had no gaming value outside of voice commands, which also had mixed results.
Even I, who bought the 360 Kinect, did NOT want to be forced into buying the XB1 Kinect until more games were revealed. Sorry... DC:S and Fitness were not worth the extra $100 early entrant fee.
What were we talking about again?
Oh, yeah. Javin's bedtime.
lol Get that confirmation bias out of here.There was no doom and gloom. Last generation, GAF was all about 360. This generation, it's reversed. There is no "everyone is out to get MS!"
joecanada
Member
This meme was not created in vain. Wii attracted insane amount of causals.
And then that hype train burned down hard... casuals and big publishers discareded Wii, Wii HD came incredibly late [with realigned gaming genres], only most die hard fans got attracted to badly marketed and poorly supported Wii U.
Hey ZhugeEX not to make more work but do you have a chart for whole last gen? All the launch aligned charts seem to end at current years. Im interested in Wii rise and fall and see how decline of ps3, 360 evolves
Darth Smurf X
Member
Actually, Zhuge, now that we are officially requesting charts and graphs, I'd love to see an accessory one. Kinect vs. Move vs. Balance Board. Or something like that.
If by 8th year you mean 2008? The PS2 sold in 8.9 million units during that period where as the Xbox 360 peak year was 14.9 million in 2011. (PS2 was 24.6m in 2002)
The PS2 sold 14.7 million in 2006 and then 13.7 million in 2007 before declining down to 8.9 million in 2008.
That's another one of the many mysteries of the Xbone planning/launch: Why didn't Microsoft prepare any (good) launch titles for Kinect 2? You know, games that would have demonstrated why Kinect was necessary and that would have made people want to buy it? What the hell were they thinking?
Darth Smurf X
Member
But...
Figher Within
But yeah. They needed some killer Kinect 2 launch games to justify that price tag.
Well, if you're trying to determine how to retain customers on your platform the first thing you would do is ask them what they want. They spoke and apparently that was really high on the list.
When a console only sells that much during now 20 months, that's bad.
Yeah, that kills me. It's just stupid.
There is no "Sony-GAF" here.
IMO, developers stopped producing kinect1 software long before kinect2 was made avaiable to them. This was done most likely because public voted with their wallets after it was clear that kinect1 was good only in few specific games [OS integration was irrelevant].
When kinect2 came, everyone could see that it was only slightly upgraded, and that this kind of motion gaming was not popular with both devs and the public.
Mister Megative
Banned
It's certainly possible. I own a PS4, but I can tell you that the vast, vast majority of my purchases over the past year have been digital. If there's a sweet collector's edition (hello MGS V!) I'll go Amazon or Gamestop or wherever, but......yeah. I just like being able to sit down at midnight and play dem new releases. Plus, less clutter in my man cave.
Mister Megative
Banned
I dunno why you were banned. But I can probably make an accurate guess.
Odd, it double-posted. I edited my original post and it double-posted. The hell?
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
BC isn't there for the retention of current users, it's blatantly for those who own a 360 and haven't moved over yet. I think the fact that a good portion of 360 owners have already decided on PS4 this time around motivated MS far more than the feedback from current xbone owners.
A user of 360 and/or Xbox One is a current Xbox platform user.
If MS wants to determine how to keep people in the ecosystem then they have to start addressing what their users want. It's cheaper to keep a customer than it is to earn a new one.
Obviously they are not solely relying on Xbox feedback to make all their decisions for them. It's another data point though and if you bother to look at the most requested features a lot of them are in progress.
Additionally, between Xbox 360 and PS3 there were 160+ million consoles sold, with a pretty even split between the two platforms. MS is probably well aware they aren't going to get 80 million sales again, but they know they've got to do everything they can to win as many sales as possible. Whatever good will they earn this gen could help them out next gen.
Is this any good? 100 months, launch aligned. (So bear in mind that Xbox 360 is technically 12 months behind the above due to the headstart.
PS3 sales are estimated between months 65 and 77.
spatenfloot
Member
It is easy to see the growth of digital in all the big publishers' quarterly reports. People are getting used to it and like the convenience.
Easy tiger.