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[MacReady13]

Explain how they lost it???

Xbox One: 58 million consoles sold

Xbox Series: 33 million consoles sold (Already dead)

LOL

No- Phil said they lost the generation cause most people purchased games digitally on PS4 then stuck to PS5 and moved their library across. What I'm saying is, why does a digital library matter when Xbox doesn't give a fuck about OWNING digital games when they allow you to rent over 200 games on gamepass?

 

[Ellery]

It seems like August 15, 1971 is starting to accelerate in catching up with us.

 

[TheUsual]

Absolutely crazy that the best time to buy a console pricewise this generation was at launch.

 

[Ellis]

Price isn't increasing in the UK.

I don't think it matters. It's still more than a PS5, when in reality it should be much lower. If you don't have the audience, you undercut. At the very least.

 

[reinking]

@KeplerL2 recently said Xbox consoles were being sold at a slight profit. Seems to me like the days of subsidized consoles are coming to an end.

 

[lastmessiah]

I really have no complaints about the Series X, it's been rock solid and especially great for playing indies or less demanding games on a 4K TV, as well as certain titles that are console-targeted like Elden Ring. I bought it early in the release cycle when it was $500 or whatever and have no regrets.

 

[StereoVsn]

With these price increases there's now no better place to play Borderlands 4.

You will feel true value.

Wait, is the $800 Xbox Series X 2TB Pro Plus Max a Premium enough console for Randy though?

 

[RCX]

 

[Drew1440]

We're gonna need a more affordable model at this rate, Series E.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Absolutely crazy that the best time to buy a console pricewise this generation was at launch.

I have bought all my consoles at launch this gen and all the previous ones since PS3 in 2007

 

[viveks86]

Also, XSS is near PS5 Digital pricing again.

DF may have to start comparing base PS5 performance to series S soon, just so it's fair apples to apples

 

[MisterXDTV]

DF may have to start comparing base PS5 performance to series S soon, just so it's fair apples to apples

They should, but they won't....

 

[Thanati]

So much winning!

 

[The Sum of Zero]

Everything is going up except my fucking wages.

 

[Madonis]

I am hoping SCOTUS does the right thing and scraps (most of) the tariffs, but that doesn't guarantee console price hikes will necessarily be reversed.

 

[gt1030]

Thanks Trump.

 

[Lightbreak]

Explain how they lost it???

Xbox One: 58 million consoles sold

Xbox Series: 33 million consoles sold (Already dead)

LOL

By releasing their exclusives on PS5?

 

[Goalus]

Makes sense given the USD weakness.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

MS did say the Series X was the "premium" model right? So it should be priced the same as the PS5 Pro!

 

[ExtendEmbraceExtinguish]

Fully expect the next 'Xbox' to be at least 1000 dollars.

Moment Phil said 1k consoles won't shift the needle folks should have known this. He wasn't talking about ps as Sony will aim for mass market.

 

[Goalus]

MS did say the Series X was the "premium" model right? So it should be priced the same as the PS5 Pro!

Even after five years, it's still a slick piece of hardware.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

No- Phil said they lost the generation cause most people purchased games digitally on PS4 then stuck to PS5 and moved their library across. What I'm saying is, why does a digital library matter when Xbox doesn't give a fuck about OWNING digital games when they allow you to rent over 200 games on gamepass?

Probably the worst side effect for a platform holder, a shot in the foot with a shotgun.

 

[TheUsual]

I have bought all my consoles at launch this gen and all the previous ones since PS3 in 2007

I remember getting the Gamecube, the Switch, and the PS5 at launch, and then the Series X within the 1st year.
At this point if you want a Series console, you really must have a specific reason.

 

[AJUMP23]

I thought this was a bump of the old thread. What an absolute joke of a plan.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Wild to live at a time where the best price is buying it at launch, rather than waiting like a lot of us have over the decades. I hate this timeline, this shit sucks. I mean, at least games are still dropping, but watch that change too, lol.

 

[playbignbox]

MS is 100% determined to kill Xbox hardware lol

 

[Warspite]

I thought someone had bumped the old thread....no it was not a bump

 

[SJRB]

"Sir nobody is buying our consoles. We're quickly becoming the laughing stock of the industry."
"Excellent, increase prices on all Xbox Series consoles"
"W... what?"
"Fuck it, blame Trump. Tarifs. Macroeconomics. Whatever."

What is this strategy called?

 

[Goalus]

No- Phil said they lost the generation cause most people purchased games digitally on PS4 then stuck to PS5 and moved their library across. What I'm saying is, why does a digital library matter when Xbox doesn't give a fuck about OWNING digital games when they allow you to rent over 200 games on gamepass?

Agreed, having options is terrible!

I absolutely hate it if I go to the store and they let me choose between almost 20 types of pizza. I'd much prefer it if they simply forced the Magherita upon me.

 

[MisterXDTV]

MS is 100% determined to kill Xbox hardware lol

Finally they succeed in the console business.... by leaving it!

 

[mitch1971]

Is it possible to sell minus amounts of consoles?

 

[saintjules]

Absolutely crazy that the best time to buy a console pricewise this generation was at launch.

Us early adopters foresaw this

 

[The Pleasure]

 

[Goalus]

Us early adopters foresaw this

Our hardware is going up in value

 

[Ellis]

Explain how they lost it???

Xbox One: 58 million consoles sold

Xbox Series: 33 million consoles sold (Already dead)

LOL

Real numbers, I'd honestly be surprised if they have sold through even 20 million SX and S worldwide.

The hardware is awesome. Everything else surrounding the brand has been the issue.

 

[nial]

@KeplerL2 recently said Xbox consoles were being sold at a slight profit. Seems to me like the days of subsidized consoles are coming to an end.

Again, the Xbox One wasn't being sold at a loss by late 2018, I think people are just throwing this around while not further analyzing why it's that.
Sure, the next Xbox will probably not be subsidized, but that's more related to the their third-party storefront support strategy.

 

[CobraAB]

Well, they were not selling good before the first increase so I expect it to be even worse now.

Wow....

 

[DinoD]

Summary of this gen. "Frame rates/img quality down-prices up"

 

[DinoD]

Please also note. USD has lost ~10% of its value over the past few months.

 

[Topher]

Again, the Xbox One wasn't being sold at a loss by late 2018, I think people are just throwing this around while not further analyzing why it's that.
Sure, the next Xbox will probably not be subsidized, but that's more related to the their third-party storefront support strategy.

Uh....ok. Just passing on what he said. And yeah, me saying subsidies "coming to an end" mainly applies to next gen.

 

[Karim]

Even after five years, it's still a slick piece of hardware.

 

[Beechos]

These things are rising faster than the price of gold.

 

[Ronin_7]

Phil Spencer is delusional, just exit hardware.

 

[nial]

Uh....ok. Just passing on what he said. And yeah, me saying subsidies "coming to an end" mainly applies to next gen.

My point is that recent actions don't necessarily correlate to next-gen pricing. Everything else we know about it? That does.

 

[Alebrije]

Xbox Will be a collectors item soon , hurry to get one....

 

[Topher]

My point is that recent actions don't necessarily correlate to next-gen pricing. Everything else we know about it? That does.

Agreed. I'm simply speculating.

 

[Ellis]

Well, they were not selling good before the first increase so I expect it to be even worse now.

Wow....

UK is (or was) their second biggest market. You barely even see Xbox hardware on the shelves in stores like GAME these days. I see Series X consoles on Facebook Marketplace going for sub £150 all the time.

Microsoft is such a software powerhouse. Xbox is better off joing that.
They'll be far better off doing away with hardware.

 

[adamsapple]

Even after five years, it's still a slick piece of hardware.

 

[mckmas8808]

How are you so fast with it?

 

[MacReady13]

Agreed, having options is terrible!

I absolutely hate it if I go to the store and they let me choose between almost 20 types of pizza. I'd much prefer it if they simply forced the Magherita upon me.

You're not quite grasping what I'm saying- if a digital library is so detrimental to why losing the previous generation then having gamepass negates that, surely? I mean, you get a pretty substantial library for a fee monthly. Why own games when you can rent them? Isn't that what Micro$oft want? Why would it matter if you have a PS4 digital library when for only a very small fee you can rent over 200 games monthly on the opposition console?

Yes they lost the console race last gen but gamepass was meant to save them. It failed miserably.